What is a "soul?"

[DignifiedResponse]

34 minutes ago, Frits said:

@DignifiedResponse

No, annihilationism is not taught by the Bible.

I suppose you have a lot of questions, given the large amount of text you have posted.  I'm pleased to answer them but for the sake of clarity, can we agree that you ask two or three questions at a time? That reads better for everyone.

(P.s. You don't have to post all Bible verses, I also have a Bible myself.)

God bless you.

Yes, it is as shown from "all Bible verses" I just cited.

I am glad you "have a Bible" your"self".  Read it more carefully, so I won't have to cite so much.

I do not have any questions for you.  I am teaching you from the scripture.  One of the gifts in the Church is "teachers".  I have such a gift from God.  You might just want to listen to those texts.

I do not need answers from you.  I "have [the] Bible myself".  Again, I am responding to your error from scripture.  The question mark was rhetorical.  I do not seek answers from men, but from God's word.  It is God that teaches me, being my School Master.

I am not interested in what "reads better for everyone".  I am presenting the scripture (Psalms 119 is 176  vss, and Isaiah is 66 chapters, do you say TL'DR?).  Read it or not, but you are judged in Heaven by what you could have known but refused to know, because of physical and spiritual indolence (big word for "lazy").

Thank's for the P.S., but someOne else is in charge of me.  So, I have to go with Him.

2Ti_4:2  Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.

Isa_58:1  Cry aloud, spare not, lift up thy voice like a trumpet, and shew my people their transgression, and the house of Jacob their sins.

Luk_24:27  And beginning at Moses and all the prophets, he expounded unto them in all the scriptures the things concerning himself.

The God I believe in, is not as yours.  My LORD God (JEHOVAH Elohiym), Love,  doesn't torture people/beings for ever and ever.  God is "long suffering", not eternally suffering the wicked to live.

Jesus "once suffered", and then died, which is the wages for sin.

Edited December 28, 2020 by DignifiedResponse

[Frits]

2 hours ago, DignifiedResponse said:

My LORD God (JEHOVAH Elohiym), Love,  doesn't torture people/beings for ever and ever. 

@DignifiedResponse

But Jehovah God gave full judgment to His Son Jesus Christ. (Jh.5:22).  And this Most High Son of God, this Kurios, this God, at His judgment will say to all the workers of iniquity, to the accursed:

'Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels' (Mt 25:41)
 

2 hours ago, DignifiedResponse said:

Jesus "once suffered", and then died, which is the wages for sin.

Amen brother!  But the Lord Jesus also said: 

'but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come.' (Mt 12:32)

God bless you.

[DignifiedResponse]

2 minutes ago, Frits said:

but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come.' (Mt 12:32)

Uh-huh.  They are annihilated.  Not forgiven.  They receive the fullness of penalty - 2nd death.  They aren't forgiven.  Ever.

[DignifiedResponse]

3 minutes ago, Frits said:

'Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels' (Mt 25:41)

Uh-huh, how does the Bible define "everlasting fire"?

Mat 25:41  τοτε ερει και τοις εξ ευωνυμων πορευεσθε απ εμου οι κατηραμενοι εις το πυρ το αιωνιον το ητοιμασμενον τω διαβολω και τοις αγγελοις αυτου

The devil is cast into the "lake of fire", which as already shown doesn't exist eternally.  It was also shown that the devil will be "no more", burnt up into "ashes".  "No place" was found for the finally impenitent.

Heaven is eternal, no doubt, for God Himself is Eternal Life, and the redeemed will be indwelt by God throughout eternity, but the wicked are not so indwelt, but are found to be outside of God, rather than abiding in God.  And since they are found outside of God, they are found outside of eternal life.

 

How then are the wicked to have eternal existence?

 

The similar words, of Revelation 20:10, "even for ever and ever", are Koine Greek, "εις τους αιωνας των αιωνων", which when seen in their context, locally and globally through the scripture [KJB], do not always mean eternal, but can mean limited in time, and can even deal with distance, or even spacial ["world"].

Can an "αιων" [aiwn, aeon, in either time, distance or space] come to an end?  Yes, even as Paul shows in Hebrews:

Hebrew 9:26 KJB - For then must he often have suffered since the foundation of the world: but now once in the end of the world hath he appeared to put away sin by the sacrifice of himself.

Hebrew 9:26 KJB - επει εδει αυτον πολλακις παθειν απο καταβολης κοσμου νυν δε απαξ επι συντελεια των αιωνων εις αθετησιν αμαρτιας δια της θυσιας αυτου πεφανερωται

Notice, "end of the world [aeon]".  Notice again:

Titus 2:12 KJB - Teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world;

Titus 2:12 KJB - παιδευουσα ημας ινα αρνησαμενοι την ασεβειαν και τας κοσμικας επιθυμιας σωφρονως και δικαιως και ευσεβως ζησωμεν εν τω νυν αιωνι

Notice, "in this present world [aeon]", which indicates that there is an end to the current "world", or existence, and another "world" [aeon], or existence, to follow after it.  Thus and "aeon" can come to an end, and is not necessarily eternal.  See also "since the world began", "before this world", "this present evil world", "this world", in Matthew 12:32, Matthew 13:22, Matthew 13:39-40 (2), Matthew 13:49, Matthew 24:3, Matthew 28:20, Mark 4:19, Mark 10:30, Luke 1:70, Luke 16:8, Luke 18:30, Luke 20:34-35 (2), John 9:32, Acts 3:21, Acts 15:18, Romans 12:2, 1 Corinthians 1:20, 1 Corinthians 2:6-8 (4), 1 Corinthians 3:18, 1 Corinthians 8:13, 1 Corinthians 10:11, 2 Corinthians 4:4, Galatians 1:4, Ephesians 1:21, Ephesians 3:9, Ephesians 3:21, Ephesians 6:12, 1 Timothy 6:17, 2 Timothy 4:10, Tit 2:12, Hebrews 6:5, Hebrews 9:26; and etc.  We now see that "aeon's" can begin, and end, and are not always ongoing without ceasing, and thus context always determines the length, distance, existence, etc.

 

Notice how the Bible uses the word "for ever":

Jonah 2:6 KJB - I went down to the bottoms of the mountains; the earth with her bars was about me for ever: yet hast thou brought up my life from corruption, O LORD my God.

Jonah 2:6  (2:7) (so-called) LXX - κατέβην εἰς γῆν, ἧς οἱ μοχλοὶ αὐτῆς κάτοχοι αἰώνιοι,  καὶ ἀναβήτω φθορὰ ζωῆς μου, κύριε ὁ θεός μου.

In both distance and time, it is impossible for the word "for ever" in Jonah to be eternal, or without end.  Not only does earth have limited space [thus "ends of the earth", dry land is earth, see Genesis 1], but Jonah was only 3 days and 3 nights, timewise, in the belly:

Jonah 1:17 KJB - Now the LORD had prepared a great fish to swallow up Jonah. And Jonah was in the belly of the fish three days and three nights.

Therefore, in either care, "for ever" is limited, in this instance, in distance and time.

 

In Deuteronomy 23:3 KJB, “forever” means 10 generations. It can also mean “as long as he lives,” or “to death.”; thus see 1 Samuel 1:22, 28; Exodus 21:6; Psalm 48:14 KJB.

 

The redeemed will have eternal life, because Jesus is eternal life, but the wicked will never have eternal existence:

 

Psalms 21:4 KJB - He asked life of thee, and thou gavest it him, even length of days for ever and ever.

 

Ecclesiastes 8:13 KJB - But it shall not be well with the wicked, neither shall he prolong his days, which are as a shadow; because he feareth not before God.

 

Iniquity must be purged and cleansed from the universe, and it will not happen until the wicked cease to be:

Isaiah 22:14 KJB - And it was revealed in mine ears by the LORD of hosts, Surely this iniquity shall not be purged from you till ye die, saith the Lord GOD of hosts.

Psalms 37:10 KJB - For yet a little while, and the wicked shall not be: yea, thou shalt diligently consider his place, and it shall not be.

When will these verses be fulfilled in your understanding:

Malachi 4:1 KJB - For, behold, the day cometh, that shall burn as an oven; and all the proud, yea, and all that do wickedly, shall be stubble: and the day that cometh shall burn them up, saith the LORD of hosts, that it shall leave them neither root nor branch.

Malachi 4:3 KJB - And ye shall tread down the wicked; for they shall be ashes under the soles of your feet in the day that I shall do this, saith the LORD of hosts.

The example of the burning bush, is the perfect example of Christ Jesus in us [the redeemed] in type. It is not an example of how the wicked will be, since Christ Jesus is not in them:

Penitently redeemed:

John 14:20 KJB - At that day ye shall know that I am in my Father, and ye in me, and I in you.

John 15:4 KJB Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no more can ye, except ye abide in me.

Exodus 3:2 KJB - And the angel of the LORD appeared unto him in a flame of fire out of the midst of a bush: and he looked, and, behold, the bush burned with fire, and the bush was not consumed.

Stubbornly wicked:

John 5:38 KJB - And ye have not his word abiding in you: for whom he hath sent, him ye believe not.

John 8:37 KJB - I know that ye are Abraham's seed; but ye seek to kill me, because my word hath no place in you.

John 5:42 KJB - But I know you, that ye have not the love of God in you.

Exodus 33:5 KJB - For the LORD had said unto Moses, Say unto the children of Israel, Ye are a stiffnecked people: I will come up into the midst of thee in a moment, and consume thee: therefore now put off thy ornaments from thee, that I may know what to do unto thee.

Notice the contrast between Exodus 3:2, with Christ Jesus in the midst of the bush, and the bush was "not consumed", and then see Exodus 33:5, wherein the peoples did not have Christ Jesus abiding within, and were about to be totally "consumed".

 

Do not let the word "everlasting" in modern English bring confusion to you, so that you deny all of the places, already cited, that clearly show the devil (all the wicked angels and all the finally impenitent) to be destroyed and gone forever, never to be seen again.  Let the Bible define the word by its context.

[Frits]

2 hours ago, DignifiedResponse said:

Uh-huh.  They are annihilated.  Not forgiven. 

Indeed their sins are not forgiven, and therefore their punishment is also for all eternity.

2 hours ago, DignifiedResponse said:

Uh-huh, how does the Bible define "everlasting fire"?

Mat 25:41  τοτε ερει και τοις εξ ευωνυμων πορευεσθε απ εμου οι κατηραμενοι εις το πυρ το αιωνιον το ητοιμασμενον τω διαβολω και τοις αγγελοις αυτου

The devil is cast into the "lake of fire", which as already shown doesn't exist eternally.  It was also shown that the devil will be "no more", burnt up into "ashes".  "No place" was found for the finally impenitent.

Heaven is eternal, no doubt, for God Himself is Eternal Life, and the redeemed will be indwelt by God throughout eternity, but the wicked are not so indwelt, but are found to be outside of God, rather than abiding in God.  And since they are found outside of God, they are found outside of eternal life.

 

How then are the wicked to have eternal existence?

 

The similar words, of Revelation 20:10, "even for ever and ever", are Koine Greek, "εις τους αιωνας των αιωνων", which when seen in their context, locally and globally through the scripture [KJB], do not always mean eternal, but can mean limited in time, and can even deal with distance, or even spacial ["world"].

Can an "αιων" [aiwn, aeon, in either time, distance or space] come to an end?  Yes, even as Paul shows in Hebrews:

Hebrew 9:26 KJB - For then must he often have suffered since the foundation of the world: but now once in the end of the world hath he appeared to put away sin by the sacrifice of himself.

Hebrew 9:26 KJB - επει εδει αυτον πολλακις παθειν απο καταβολης κοσμου νυν δε απαξ επι συντελεια των αιωνων εις αθετησιν αμαρτιας δια της θυσιας αυτου πεφανερωται

Notice, "end of the world [aeon]".  Notice again:

Titus 2:12 KJB - Teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world;

Titus 2:12 KJB - παιδευουσα ημας ινα αρνησαμενοι την ασεβειαν και τας κοσμικας επιθυμιας σωφρονως και δικαιως και ευσεβως ζησωμεν εν τω νυν αιωνι

Notice, "in this present world [aeon]", which indicates that there is an end to the current "world", or existence, and another "world" [aeon], or existence, to follow after it.  Thus and "aeon" can come to an end, and is not necessarily eternal.  See also "since the world began", "before this world", "this present evil world", "this world", in Matthew 12:32, Matthew 13:22, Matthew 13:39-40 (2), Matthew 13:49, Matthew 24:3, Matthew 28:20, Mark 4:19, Mark 10:30, Luke 1:70, Luke 16:8, Luke 18:30, Luke 20:34-35 (2), John 9:32, Acts 3:21, Acts 15:18, Romans 12:2, 1 Corinthians 1:20, 1 Corinthians 2:6-8 (4), 1 Corinthians 3:18, 1 Corinthians 8:13, 1 Corinthians 10:11, 2 Corinthians 4:4, Galatians 1:4, Ephesians 1:21, Ephesians 3:9, Ephesians 3:21, Ephesians 6:12, 1 Timothy 6:17, 2 Timothy 4:10, Tit 2:12, Hebrews 6:5, Hebrews 9:26; and etc.  We now see that "aeon's" can begin, and end, and are not always ongoing without ceasing, and thus context always determines the length, distance, existence, etc.

 

Notice how the Bible uses the word "for ever":

Jonah 2:6 KJB - I went down to the bottoms of the mountains; the earth with her bars was about me for ever: yet hast thou brought up my life from corruption, O LORD my God.

Jonah 2:6  (2:7) (so-called) LXX - κατέβην εἰς γῆν, ἧς οἱ μοχλοὶ αὐτῆς κάτοχοι αἰώνιοι,  καὶ ἀναβήτω φθορὰ ζωῆς μου, κύριε ὁ θεός μου.

In both distance and time, it is impossible for the word "for ever" in Jonah to be eternal, or without end.  Not only does earth have limited space [thus "ends of the earth", dry land is earth, see Genesis 1], but Jonah was only 3 days and 3 nights, timewise, in the belly:

Jonah 1:17 KJB - Now the LORD had prepared a great fish to swallow up Jonah. And Jonah was in the belly of the fish three days and three nights.

Therefore, in either care, "for ever" is limited, in this instance, in distance and time.

 

In Deuteronomy 23:3 KJB, “forever” means 10 generations. It can also mean “as long as he lives,” or “to death.”; thus see 1 Samuel 1:22, 28; Exodus 21:6; Psalm 48:14 KJB.

 

The redeemed will have eternal life, because Jesus is eternal life, but the wicked will never have eternal existence:

 

Psalms 21:4 KJB - He asked life of thee, and thou gavest it him, even length of days for ever and ever.

 

Ecclesiastes 8:13 KJB - But it shall not be well with the wicked, neither shall he prolong his days, which are as a shadow; because he feareth not before God.

 

Iniquity must be purged and cleansed from the universe, and it will not happen until the wicked cease to be:

Isaiah 22:14 KJB - And it was revealed in mine ears by the LORD of hosts, Surely this iniquity shall not be purged from you till ye die, saith the Lord GOD of hosts.

Psalms 37:10 KJB - For yet a little while, and the wicked shall not be: yea, thou shalt diligently consider his place, and it shall not be.

When will these verses be fulfilled in your understanding:

Malachi 4:1 KJB - For, behold, the day cometh, that shall burn as an oven; and all the proud, yea, and all that do wickedly, shall be stubble: and the day that cometh shall burn them up, saith the LORD of hosts, that it shall leave them neither root nor branch.

Malachi 4:3 KJB - And ye shall tread down the wicked; for they shall be ashes under the soles of your feet in the day that I shall do this, saith the LORD of hosts.

The example of the burning bush, is the perfect example of Christ Jesus in us [the redeemed] in type. It is not an example of how the wicked will be, since Christ Jesus is not in them:

Penitently redeemed:

John 14:20 KJB - At that day ye shall know that I am in my Father, and ye in me, and I in you.

John 15:4 KJB Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no more can ye, except ye abide in me.

Exodus 3:2 KJB - And the angel of the LORD appeared unto him in a flame of fire out of the midst of a bush: and he looked, and, behold, the bush burned with fire, and the bush was not consumed.

Stubbornly wicked:

John 5:38 KJB - And ye have not his word abiding in you: for whom he hath sent, him ye believe not.

John 8:37 KJB - I know that ye are Abraham's seed; but ye seek to kill me, because my word hath no place in you.

John 5:42 KJB - But I know you, that ye have not the love of God in you.

Exodus 33:5 KJB - For the LORD had said unto Moses, Say unto the children of Israel, Ye are a stiffnecked people: I will come up into the midst of thee in a moment, and consume thee: therefore now put off thy ornaments from thee, that I may know what to do unto thee.

Notice the contrast between Exodus 3:2, with Christ Jesus in the midst of the bush, and the bush was "not consumed", and then see Exodus 33:5, wherein the peoples did not have Christ Jesus abiding within, and were about to be totally "consumed".

 

Do not let the word "everlasting" in modern English bring confusion to you, so that you deny all of the places, already cited, that clearly show the devil (all the wicked angels and all the finally impenitent) to be destroyed and gone forever, never to be seen again.  Let the Bible define the word by its context.

You are making a fallacy between "Eternal Life" and "Eternal Existence."  Indeed, there is no eternal life outside of the Lord Jesus Christ, but there is an eternal existence in the lake of fire!

You say: "..which as already shown doesn't exist eternally."

The Lord Jesus Christ says: 
'Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels' (Mt.25:41)
(Readers get to choose!)

The word 'everlasting' that the Lord Jesus uses here, means: "without beginning and without end, never to cease, everlasting".

The false prophet is a human and this is what the Bible says about his everlasting destiny:

'.... false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever."  (Rev.20:10)

This "for ever and ever" is the same "for ever and ever", that is also used by the writer in the Hebrew letter:

"But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever" (Heb.1:8)

This transcends all aeons and all times, and literally means for ever and ever.

God bless you.

 

(Although I love Bible verses very much, there is really no need to copy/paste everything in Greek. On Worthy, all users already have a Greek dictionary, Thayer, Strong, and a concordance.)

[Alive]

7 minutes ago, Frits said:

(Although I love Bible verses very much, there is really no need to copy/paste everything in Greek. On Worthy, all users already have a Greek dictionary, Thayer, Strong, and a concordance.)

Its perfectly acceptable and fine and dandy to post original language stuff.

:-)

[Frits]

5 minutes ago, Alive said:

Its perfectly acceptable and fine and dandy to post original language stuff.

:-)

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[Frits]

24 minutes ago, Josheb said:

None of which requires us to assume or infer God's spirit was given to humans.

 

33 minutes ago, Josheb said:

Adam and Eve, even in the good, unashamed, sinless pre-disobedient state were living beings made out of matter (either earth dust or a rib) that carried a life-giving breath from God (like all the other animals)

 

The Holy Spirit of God Himself had not yet been poured out, after all, it had not yet been Pentecost.

But are you going to equate Adam and Eve with animals, as far as their soul is concerned?

[David1701]

17 hours ago, Charlie744 said:

Thanks David and I think many agree with you this is a real event AND for the same reason. Rather than open this topic up and drill down I will just say we have to disagree. 

David, this is the kind of thing I alluded to earlier (I think). I find there is a NEED to carve up and then expand on concepts like “the Spirit” to continue or maintain the integrity of a certain view or interpretation. Here you have carved out the Spirit given by God in Gen. 2:7 to have its own 2 parts - human and holy. I don’t think God breathed a “human spirit” into this formed earth. This is what I meant by defining what the 2:7 definition of a soul is and then holding all subsequent verses to that definition- if it (components or parts) are not found in 2:7 we can not add them later on to continue a particular interpretation. 

Well, I have absolutely NO allusions here - there are so many members in this site that are truly brilliant, knowledgeable and so well read and I am in no position to judge their opinions / thoughts / interpretations / logic.... etc..... However, I don’t agree the NT is superior (my words only) to the OT in that the NT should be looked to explain or interpret the OT. Certainly the NT does expand greatly the meaning of the verses found in the OT but it can never contradict or even drive (add, subtract or change) it’s meaning. I am not sure (well I am fairly sure) I have made this point adequately or clearly but the NT verses can not change an OT meaning. Now we use the NT to define or expand on 2:7; we have an inner and outer man, a Holy and human spirit and the good old physical body. We now have carved up 2:7 into at least 5 parts to keep with a certain interpretation of a soul. I am not sure we are getting more information to make a distinction but ate finding it necessary to add to our definition of a soul to maintain the integrity of our views. I don’t think we can change the definition of a soul found in 2:7 (once there is agreement). 

I apologize for my clumsiness in my response above, Charlie 

I won't comment on everything; but there is one matter that is very important and that must be addressed.

The Holy Spirit is one of the Persons in the Godhead - the third Person of the Trinity.  He is entirely distinct from the human spirit that every human being has.

The human spirit in an unbeliever is very UNHOLY, which is why we must be born again, in order to be saved.  When someone is born again, he gets a new, soft-hearted human spirit AND he is given the Holy Spirit, to indwell him.

Ez. 36:26,27 (VW)

26 I will also give you a new heart and put a new spirit within you; I will take the heart of stone out of your flesh and give you a heart of flesh.
27 And I will put My Spirit within you and cause you to walk in My statutes, and you shall keep My judgments and do them.

[Retrobyter]

8 hours ago, Charlie744 said:

Thank you very much for your comments!! I believe I again must apologize— I certainly did not mean to say or imply that man has 3 parts. If that was found on n my response it was definitely unintended. 

Hopefully, I can give you my thoughts on this more clearly! As mentioned earlier, there are only 2 parts - the A and B parts previously identified. Although it is NOT stated in 2:7, AND at the risk of disobeying my earlier statement that we can not change / add / subtract, etc., to a definition to meet our own interpretations, I believe His Breathing into this formed earth is so much more than air ( a “puff of air”) to kickstart our life.

Shalom, Charlie.

Thank you for your reply. I also apologize; I should not have assumed that you meant three parts, when you said nothing really to indicate that you believed that. I should have re-read your posts, for I did not remember the A and B parts, listed above. Sometimes, I read too quickly and assume summaries that aren't really there. I should read posts more thoroughly.

I still believe that even the two parts you mention are one part too much, and it's still an attempt to read the Scriptures in light of the theological philosophy. There are many arguments that we build from the silence of the Scriptures. However, an argument from silence is still a logical fallacy, UNLESS one qualifies one's position, admitting that the Scriptures are silent about the matter. The problem arises from building too much of our position upon those arguments from silence. Again, one must admit that the structure of one's position is based upon such arguments and is therefore suspect.

8 hours ago, Charlie744 said:

He did not breathe into the animals or any other living creature.

...that we know of! Again, this is an assumption built upon the apparent silence on the matter. I would like to point out a word that wasn't translated properly or as thoroughly as it might have been. It's the Hebrew word, "chayyiym." The word is spelled "chet-patach-yod/dagesh-chiriq-yod-mem." The "-chiriq-yod-mem" ending is a truly plural suffix; that is, it is not a dual plural word. It is used for numbers 3 or more. The root word is chay (Strong's Hebrew number 2416) which means "alive" or "living." As I said before, the word "nishmat" is a form used for the noun construct state. It means "a puff" but it also implies the word "of" between "nishmat" and the word which follows, "chayyiym." In English, we don't make adjectives plural, but Hebrew does. Therefore, in translation, we need to add a generalized word, such as "thing," and we get, "a puff of-living-[thing]s."

What "living things?" The "living things" were the animals already created on days 5 and 6, the birds, the fish, and the land animals! Thus, this "nishmat" is the puff of the birds, the fish, and the land animals already in existence!

Therefore, to say that the animals didn't receive such a puff is not necessarily correct! For me, to say that they did receive such a puff is not an argument from silence for this very reason!

8 hours ago, Charlie744 said:

He gave us a specific (and very special) understanding for His creation of man - made in His image. The “puff of air”, in my opinion (yes, I know it is just my own), was not what was put or placed into this formed earth, rather it was the mechanism He used to place His Spirit into man. 

Again, the Scriptures do not say anything about that. However, as you mentioned, the thing that truly separates us from the rest of the Creation is that the man - haa'aadaam - "Adam" was made in the image of God.

8 hours ago, Charlie744 said:

Again, He did not breath into the animals but wanted to draw our attention to these verses telling us He is doing something different here. Every living thing breathes air in one manner or another but only man has His Spirit placed within him. And I hope I am not filling in my opinions / interpretations between His Words but God did not breathe air into Eve.

Eve had to also be created as a “living soul”, and this might be accomplished through Adam - who already was given His Spirit (not just air). 

"God did not breathe air into Eve"...that we know of! God could indeed have breathed into Chavah ("Eve," a transliteration into English from the Greek transliteration written with epsilons so that it sounds like "Eh'-veh") the same puff of air that He did into Adam; the Scriptures are simply silent about it ... EXCEPT that we learn from Genesis 2:7 that God puffed air into the nostrils of "haa'aadaam!" Then, we also read the Scriptures that say,

Genesis 5:1-2 (KJV)

1 This is the book of the generations of Adam. In the day that God created man, in the likeness of God made he him; 2 MALE AND FEMALE CREATED HE THEM; and blessed them, and called THEIR name "Adam," (Hebrew: haa'aadaam) in the day when THEY were created.

So, maybe the Scriptures are NOT so "silent" and we, being foreigners to the Hebrew language, simply miss it!

8 hours ago, Charlie744 said:

So, His Word provides sufficient information to separate or distinguish our creation from all other living creatures. We all have a physical body, we all breath, but only man has His Spirit placed into us. Two parts- A+B = C or the living soul. 

When we die, A returns to the ground, B returns to God who have it (air is not returned to God), and this living soul is no more (until He resurrects or reconstitutes or whatever acceptable term one likes more) at the end of time. 

Now, if this is the definition of a living soul of 2:7 it will have to face the gauntlet of all subsequent uses found in the Scriptures. 

After the fall, both Adam and Eve continued to live (physical body and still air breathing). But did God take back His Spirit due to their disobedience? Meaning for the rest of our time on earth we must find a way to restore  His Spirit. But of course we have NO ability to do so. God designed a Plan of Salvation to restore His Spirit within us and we could once again be in His presence. Although He sent His Holy Spirit to us at Pentecost, I believe He may have symbolically (once again) breathed His Spirit into those in the  Upper Room when He breathed on them. He was demonstrating to us He would restore His Spirit within us - bringing us back to Genesis where He breathed His Spirit into this earth. 

But of course we all will physically die. But if we accept Jesus as our Lord and Saviour we will be once again BE a Living Soul as defined in 2:7. I think this is what Paul was meaning when he mentioned the body, Spirit and the soul. Not 3 parts, but once again the “whole” of His creation. This man will once again be a body WITH His Spirit and BE a Living Soul. 

I believe Jesus said to not worry about those that can kill the body, instead worry about He that can destroy both body and soul. 

Jesus did not say we should worry about He that can destroy body, soul AND spirit! My thoughts on this, and I hope this is consistent with my definition and interpretation of 2:7, is that after the fall, we continued to live but without His Spirit. It was taken from us. 

If we do NOT accept Jesus He will not restore His Spirit within us at the resurrection and He will only see the body as we are today (just an air breathing soul). This body and soul is not complete; it does not have His Spirit restored... and will be destroyed forever. By accepting Jesus, this body, Spirit and Living Soul will be made exactly as He created us in the beginning. Jesus did not mention or include “the Spirit” in this because the “Spirit” belongs to Him! He gave us His Spirit and His Spirit can / could never be destroyed! It is not our spirit, He have us His Spirit... He certainly would not destroy His own Spirit. 

Just my thoughts and I would enjoy your thoughts and comments.... IF you find value in any of them, Charlie 

To all of this I will just say that the spirit of man is the "breath" of man; that is, a "forceful blowing" as when someone is passionate about what he is talking. That passion involves not only the thoughts behind the words but also the emotions. However, that is not a separate entity that goes anywhere after death. Instead, the mind - the brain - dies with the rest of the individual. However, God REMEMBERS the individual as he or she was and re-creates that person PRECISELY as he or she was before death. Then, that individual is transformed into an incorruptible, immortal being after the initial Resurrection.

God doesn't need to put His Spirit back into a person; the person is in the Holy Spirit of God already!

I had another thought, but being human, I've lost it ... temporarily. I believe it was important enough that God will give it back to my memory.