When will we rule and reign with Christ? What will it be like? Is it yet future?

[DeighAnn]

What is the coming order of events?  

The powerful, crowned, multiheaded, gonna rule the world, 'beast' is 'rising' up from the sea.  (AKA a 10 headed powerful organization that is made up of the people of this world is gonna come to power  AKA 1worldorder,  LOOK AROUND)

Something deadly happening to one of the 'heads'.

War in heaven, Satan kicked to the earth

Him takin over False Prophet, his angels taking over 10 'heads'

The world comes to 'PEACE AND SAFETY'. 
Just get the mark, worship the whatever, and it's gonna feel like heaven on earth. SUPERNATURALLY SO.  

But them 2 witnesses just wont quit causing trouble, they are killed.  

And CHRIST RETURNS.  and satan is bound.



GODS ORDER OF EVENTS

Here is when HE came AS SAVIOUR

Isaiah 61:1 The Spirit of the Lord GOD is upon Me; because the LORD hath anointed Me to preach good tidings unto the meek; He hath sent me to bind up the brokenhearted, to proclaim liberty to the captives, and the opening of the prison to them that are bound;

Isaiah 61:2 To proclaim the acceptable year of the LORD,


HERE is where HE COMES as LORD OF LORD AND KING OF KINGS

and the day of vengeance of our God; 

(WHEN THE LORD RETURNS AS LORD OF LORDS AND KING OF KINGS TO RULE WITH A ROD OF IRON.  
WHEN SATAN IS DESTROYED BY THE BRIGHTNESS OF HIS COMING
WHEN ALL WHO ARE ALIVE AND REMAIN ARE CHANGED
WHEN THE MILLENNIAL KINGDOM IS SET UP ON EARTH)

to comfort all that mourn;
 

Isaiah 61:3 To appoint unto them that mourn in Zion, to give unto them beauty for ashes, the oil of joy for mourning, the garment of praise for the spirit of heaviness; that they might be called trees of righteousness, the planting of the LORD, that He might be glorified.

Isaiah 61:4 And they shall build the old wastes, they shall raise up the former desolations, and they shall repair the waste cities, the desolations of many generations.

Isaiah 61:5 And strangers shall stand and feed your flocks, and the sons of the alien shall be your plowmen and your vinedressers.

(AND WHAT HAPPENS IN THAT DAY/1000 YRS?)

Isaiah 61:6 But ye shall be named the Priests of the LORD: men shall call you the Ministers of our God: ye shall eat the riches of the Gentiles, and in their glory shall ye boast yourselves.

Isaiah 61:7 For your shame ye shall have double; and for confusion they shall rejoice in their portion: therefore in their land they shall possess the double: everlasting joy shall be unto them.

Isaiah 61:8 For I the LORD love judgment, I hate robbery for burnt offering; and I will direct their work in truth, and I will make an everlasting covenant with them.

Isaiah 61:9 And their seed shall be known among the Gentiles, and their offspring among the people: all that see them shall acknowledge them, that they are the seed which the LORD hath blessed.

Isaiah 61:10 I will greatly rejoice in the LORD, my soul shall be joyful in my God; for He hath clothed me with the garments of salvation, He hath covered me with the robe of righteousness,

AS A BRIDEGROOM decketh himself with ornaments, and AS A BRIDE adorneth herself with her jewels.

Isaiah 61:11 For as the earth bringeth forth her bud, and as the garden causeth the things that are sown in it to spring forth;

so the Lord GOD

will cause righteousness and praise to spring forth before all the nations.


BESIDES COMING AS SAVIOUR, HAS ALL THAT ALREADY HAPPENED?  LOOK AROUND.  



EXCERPTS FROM WHAT IT WILL BE LIKE WHEN THIS EARTH IS CHANGED INTO THE SPIRITUAL KINGDOM OF GOD, (THE REST JUST AS IMPORTANT)

 

Ezekiel 40:1 In the five and twentieth year of our captivity, in the beginning of the year, in the tenth day of the month, in the fourteenth year after that the city was smitten, in the selfsame day the hand of the LORD was upon me, and brought me thither.

Ezekiel 40:2 In the visions of God brought he me into the land of Israel, and set me upon a very high mountain, by which was as the frame of a city on the south.

Ezekiel 40:3 And He brought me thither, and, behold, there was a man, whose appearance was like the appearance of brass, with a line of flax in his hand, and a measuring reed; and he stood in the gate.

Ezekiel 40:4 And the man said unto me, Son of man, behold with thine eyes, and hear with thine ears, and set thine heart upon all that I shall shew thee; for to the intent that I might shew them unto thee art thou brought hither: declare all that thou seest to the house of Israel.


Who is that spiritual house of Israel today?  

 

Ezekiel 40:5 And behold a wall on the outside of the house round about, and in the man's hand a measuring reed of six cubits long by the cubit and an hand breadth: so he measured the breadth of the building, one reed; and the height, one reed.

Ezekiel 40:6 Then came he unto the gate which looketh toward the east, and went up the stairs thereof, and measured the threshold of the gate, which was one reed broad; and the other threshold of the gate, which was one reed broad.

 

Ezekiel 40:43 And within were hooks, an hand broad, fastened round about: and upon the tables was the flesh of the offering.

Ezekiel 40:44 And without the inner gate were the chambers of the singers in the inner court, which was at the side of the north gate; and their prospect was toward the south: one at the side of the east gate having the prospect toward the north.
 

Ezekiel 40:45 And he said unto me, This chamber, whose prospect is toward the south, is for the priests, THE KEEPERS OF THE CHARGE OF THE HOUSE 
 

Ezekiel 40:46 And the chamber whose prospect is toward the north is for the priests, the keepers of the charge of the altar: these are the sons of Zadok among the sons of Levi, WHICH COME NEAR TO THE LORD TO MINISTER UNTO HIM. 
 

 

Ezekiel 41:1 Afterward he brought me to the temple, and measured the posts, six cubits broad on the one side, and six cubits broad on the other side, which was the breadth of the tabernacle.

 

Ezekiel 42:13 Then said he unto me, The north chambers and the south chambers, which are before the separate place, they be holy chambers, where the priests that approach unto the LORD shall eat the most holy things: there shall they lay the most holy things, and the meat offering, and the sin offering, and the trespass offering; for the place is holy.

Ezekiel 42:14 When the priests enter therein, then shall they not go out of the holy place into the utter court, but there they shall lay their garments wherein they minister; for they are holy; and shall put on other garments, and shall approach to those things which are for the people.

Ezekiel 42:15 Now when he had made an end of measuring the inner house, he brought me forth toward the gate whose prospect is toward the east, and measured it round about.

 

Ezekiel 42:20 He measured it by the four sides: it had a wall round about, five hundred reeds long, and five hundred broad, to make a separation between the sanctuary and the profane place.

Ezekiel 43:1 Afterward he brought me to the gate, even the gate that looketh toward the east:

Ezekiel 43:2 And, behold, the glory of the God of Israel came from the way of the east: and His voice was like a noise of many waters: and the earth shined with his glory.

Ezekiel 43:3 And it was according to the appearance of the vision which I saw, even according to the vision that I saw when I came to destroy the city: and the visions were like the vision that I saw by the river Chebar; and I fell upon my face.

Ezekiel 43:4 And the glory of the LORD came into the house by the way of the gate whose prospect is toward the east.

Ezekiel 43:5 So the spirit took me up, and brought me into the inner court; and, behold, the glory of the LORD filled the house.

Ezekiel 43:6 And I heard him speaking unto me out of the house; and the man stood by me.

Ezekiel 43:7 And he said unto me, Son of man, the place of my throne, and the place of the soles of my feet, where I will dwell in the midst of the children of Israel for ever, and my holy name, shall the house of Israel no more defile, neither they, nor their kings, by their whoredom, nor by the carcases of their kings in their high places.

Ezekiel 43:8 In their setting of their threshold by my thresholds, and their post by my posts, and the wall between me and them, they have even defiled my holy name by their abominations that they have committed: wherefore I have consumed them in mine anger.

Ezekiel 43:9 Now let them put away their whoredom, and the carcases of their kings, far from me, and I will dwell in the midst of them for ever.

Ezekiel 43:10 Thou son of man, shew the house to the house of Israel, that they may be ashamed of their iniquities: and let them measure the pattern.

Ezekiel 43:11 And if they be ashamed of all that they have done, shew them the form of the house, and the fashion thereof, and the goings out thereof, and the comings in thereof, and all the forms thereof, and all the ordinances thereof, and all the forms thereof, and all the laws thereof: and write it in their sight, that they may keep the whole form thereof, and all the ordinances thereof, and do them.

Ezekiel 43:12 This is the law of the house; Upon the top of the mountain the whole limit thereof round about shall be most holy. Behold, this is the law of the house.

Ezekiel 43:13 And these are the measures of the altar after the cubits: The cubit is a cubit and an hand breadth; even the bottom shall be a cubit, and the breadth a cubit, and the border thereof by the edge thereof round about shall be a span: and this shall be the higher place of the altar.

 

Ezekiel 43:18 And he said unto me, Son of man, thus saith the Lord GOD; These are the ordinances of the altar in the day when they shall make it, to offer burnt offerings thereon, and to sprinkle blood thereon.

Ezekiel 43:19 And thou shalt give to the priests the Levites that be of the seed of Zadok, which approach unto me, to minister unto me, saith the Lord GOD, a young bullock for a sin offering.

Ezekiel 43:20 And thou shalt take of the blood thereof, and put it on the four horns of it, and on the four corners of the settle, and upon the border round about: thus shalt thou cleanse and purge it.

Ezekiel 43:21 Thou shalt take the bullock also of the sin offering, and he shall burn it in the appointed place of the house, without the sanctuary.

Ezekiel 43:22 And on the second day thou shalt offer a kid of the goats without blemish for a sin offering; and they shall cleanse the altar, as they did cleanse it with the bullock.

Ezekiel 43:23 When thou hast made an end of cleansing it, thou shalt offer a young bullock without blemish, and a ram out of the flock without blemish.

Ezekiel 43:24 And thou shalt offer them before the LORD, and the priests shall cast salt upon them, and they shall offer them up for a burnt offering unto the LORD.

Ezekiel 43:25 Seven days shalt thou prepare every day a goat for a sin offering: they shall also prepare a young bullock, and a ram out of the flock, without blemish.

Ezekiel 43:26 Seven days shall they purge the altar and purify it; and they shall consecrate themselves.

Ezekiel 43:27 And when these days are expired, it shall be, that upon the eighth day, and so forward, the priests shall make your burnt offerings upon the altar, and your peace offerings; and I will accept you, saith the Lord GOD.

Ezekiel 44:1 Then he brought me back the way of the gate of the outward sanctuary which looketh toward the east; and it was shut.

Ezekiel 44:2 Then said the LORD unto me; This gate shall be shut, it shall not be opened, and no man shall enter in by it; because the LORD, the God of Israel, hath entered in by it, therefore it shall be shut.

Ezekiel 44:3 It is for the prince; the prince, he shall sit in it to eat bread before the LORD; he shall enter by the way of the porch of that gate, and shall go out by the way of the same.

Ezekiel 44:4 Then brought he me the way of the north gate before the house: and I looked, and, behold, the glory of the LORD filled the house of the LORD: and I fell upon my face.

Ezekiel 44:5 And the LORD said unto me, Son of man, mark well, and behold with thine eyes, and hear with thine ears all that I say unto thee concerning all the ordinances of the house of the LORD, and all the laws thereof; and mark well the entering in of the house, with every going forth of the sanctuary.

Ezekiel 44:6 And thou shalt say to the rebellious, even to the house of Israel, Thus saith the Lord GOD; O ye house of Israel, let it suffice you of all your abominations,

Ezekiel 44:7 In that ye have brought into my sanctuary strangers, uncircumcised in heart, and uncircumcised in flesh, to be in my sanctuary, to pollute it, even my house, when ye offer my bread, the fat and the blood, and they have broken my covenant because of all your abominations.

Ezekiel 44:8 And ye have not kept the charge of mine holy things: but ye have set keepers of my charge in my sanctuary for yourselves.

Ezekiel 44:9 Thus saith the Lord GOD; No stranger, uncircumcised in heart, nor uncircumcised in flesh, shall enter into my sanctuary, of any stranger that is among the children of Israel.

Ezekiel 44:10 And the Levites that are gone away far from me, when Israel went astray, which went astray away from me after their idols; they shall even bear their iniquity.

Ezekiel 44:11 Yet they shall be ministers in my sanctuary, having charge at the gates of the house, and ministering to the house: they shall slay the burnt offering and the sacrifice for the people, and they shall stand before them to minister unto them.

Ezekiel 44:12 Because they ministered unto them before their idols, and caused the house of Israel to fall into iniquity; therefore have I lifted up mine hand against them, saith the Lord GOD, and they shall bear their iniquity.

Ezekiel 44:13 And they shall not come near unto me, to do the office of a priest unto me, nor to come near to any of my holy things, in the most holy place: but they shall bear their shame, and their abominations which they have committed.

Ezekiel 44:14 But I will make them keepers of the charge of the house, for all the service thereof, and for all that shall be done therein.

 

Ezekiel 44:15 But the priests the Levites, the sons of Zadok, that kept the charge of my sanctuary when the children of Israel went astray from me, they shall come near to me to minister unto me, and they shall stand before me to offer unto me the fat and the blood, saith the Lord GOD:

Ezekiel 44:16 They shall enter into my sanctuary, and they shall come near to my table, to minister unto me, and they shall keep my charge.

Ezekiel 44:17 And it shall come to pass, that when they enter in at the gates of the inner court, they shall be clothed with linen garments; and no wool shall come upon them, whiles they minister in the gates of the inner court, and within.

Ezekiel 44:18 They shall have linen bonnets upon their heads, and shall have linen breeches upon their loins; they shall not gird themselves with any thing that causeth sweat.

Ezekiel 44:19 And when they go forth into the utter court, even into the utter court to the people, they shall put off their garments wherein they ministered, and lay them in the holy chambers, and they shall put on other garments; and they shall not sanctify the people with their garments.

Ezekiel 44:20 Neither shall they shave their heads, nor suffer their locks to grow long; they shall only poll their heads.

Ezekiel 44:21 Neither shall any priest drink wine, when they enter into the inner court.

Ezekiel 44:22 Neither shall they take for their wives a widow, nor her that is put away: but they shall take maidens of the seed of the house of Israel, or a widow that had a priest before.

Ezekiel 44:23 And they shall teach my people the difference between the holy and profane, and cause them to discern between the unclean and the clean.

Ezekiel 44:24 And in controversy they shall stand in judgment; and they shall judge it according to my judgments: and they shall keep my laws and my statutes in all mine assemblies; and they shall hallow my sabbaths.

Ezekiel 44:25 And they shall come at no dead person to defile themselves: but for father, or for mother, or for son, or for daughter, for brother, or for sister that hath had no husband, they may defile themselves.

(AND THE DEAD LIVED NOT AGAIN UNTIL THE 1000 YEARS ARE DONE.  WHY?  BECAUSE SATAN IS GOING TO BE LOOSED FOR A SHORT SEASON).

Ezekiel 44:26 And after he is cleansed, they shall reckon unto him seven days.

Ezekiel 44:27 And in the day that he goeth into the sanctuary, unto the inner court, to minister in the sanctuary, he shall offer his sin offering, saith the Lord GOD.

Ezekiel 44:28 And it shall be unto them for an inheritance: I am their inheritance: and ye shall give them no possession in Israel: I am their possession.

Ezekiel 44:29 They shall eat the meat offering, and the sin offering, and the trespass offering: and every dedicated thing in Israel shall be theirs.

Ezekiel 44:30 And the first of all the firstfruits of all things, and every oblation of all, of every sort of your oblations, shall be the priest's: ye shall also give unto the priest the first of your dough, that he may cause the blessing to rest in thine house.

Ezekiel 44:31 The priests shall not eat of any thing that is dead of itself, or torn, whether it be fowl or beast.

Ezekiel 45:1 Moreover, when ye shall divide by lot the land for inheritance, ye shall offer an oblation unto the LORD, an holy portion of the land: the length shall be the length of five and twenty thousand reeds, and the breadth shall be ten thousand. This shall be holy in all the borders thereof round about.

Ezekiel 45:2 Of this there shall be for the sanctuary five hundred in length, with five hundred in breadth, square round about; and fifty cubits round about for the suburbs thereof.

Ezekiel 45:3 And of this measure shalt thou measure the length of five and twenty thousand, and the breadth of ten thousand: and in it shall be the sanctuary and the most holy place.

Ezekiel 45:4 The holy portion of the land shall be for the priests the ministers of the sanctuary, which shall come near to minister unto the LORD: and it shall be a place for their houses, and an holy place for the sanctuary.

Ezekiel 45:5 And the five and twenty thousand of length, and the ten thousand of breadth shall also the Levites, the ministers of the house, have for themselves, for a possession for twenty chambers.

Ezekiel 45:6 And ye shall appoint the possession of the city five thousand broad, and five and twenty thousand long, over against the oblation of the holy portion: it shall be for the whole house of Israel.

Ezekiel 45:7 And a portion shall be for the prince on the one side and on the other side of the oblation of the holy portion, and of the possession of the city, before the oblation of the holy portion, and before the possession of the city, from the west side westward, and from the east side eastward: and the length shall be over against one of the portions, from the west border unto the east border.

Ezekiel 45:8 In the land shall be his possession in Israel: and my princes shall no more oppress my people; and the rest of the land shall they give to the house of Israel according to their tribes.

Ezekiel 45:9 Thus saith the Lord GOD; Let it suffice you, O princes of Israel: remove violence and spoil, and execute judgment and justice, take away your exactions from my people, saith the Lord GOD.

Ezekiel 45:10 Ye shall have just balances, and a just ephah, and a just bath.
 

 

 

Ezekiel 47:1 Afterward he brought me again unto the door of the house; and, behold, waters issued out from under the threshold of the house eastward: for the forefront of the house stood toward the east, and the waters came down from under from the right side of the house, at the south side of the altar.


(AND THERE IS A GULF BETWEEN US THAT CAN'T BE CROSSED)
 

Ezekiel 47:2 Then brought he me out of the way of the gate northward, and led me about the way without unto the utter gate by the way that looketh eastward; and, behold, there ran out waters on the right side.

Ezekiel 47:3 And when the man that had the line in his hand went forth eastward, he measured a thousand cubits, and he brought me through the waters; the waters were to the ankles.

Ezekiel 47:4 Again he measured a thousand, and brought me through the waters; the waters were to the knees. Again he measured a thousand, and brought me through; the waters were to the loins.

Ezekiel 47:5 Afterward he measured a thousand; and it was a river that I could not pass over: for the waters were risen, waters to swim in, a river that could not be passed over.

Ezekiel 47:6 And he said unto me, Son of man, hast thou seen this? Then he brought me, and caused me to return to the brink of the river.

Ezekiel 47:7 Now when I had returned, behold, at the bank of the river were very many trees on the one side and on the other.

Ezekiel 47:8 Then said he unto me, These waters issue out toward the east country, and go down into the desert, and go into the sea: which being brought forth into the sea, the waters shall be healed.

Ezekiel 47:9 And it shall come to pass, that every thing that liveth, which moveth, whithersoever the rivers shall come, shall live: and there shall be a very great multitude of fish, because these waters shall come thither: for they shall be healed; and every thing shall live whither the river cometh.

Ezekiel 47:10 And it shall come to pass, that the fishers shall stand upon it from Engedi even unto Eneglaim; they shall be a place to spread forth nets; their fish shall be according to their kinds, as the fish of the great sea, exceeding many.

Ezekiel 47:11 But the miry places thereof and the marishes thereof shall not be healed; they shall be given to salt.

Ezekiel 47:12 And by the river upon the bank thereof, on this side and on that side, shall grow all trees for meat, whose leaf shall not fade, neither shall the fruit thereof be consumed: it shall bring forth new fruit according to his months, because their waters they issued out of the sanctuary: and the fruit thereof shall be for meat, and the leaf thereof for medicine.

Ezekiel 47:13 Thus saith the Lord GOD; This shall be the border, whereby ye shall inherit the land according to the twelve tribes of Israel: Joseph shall have two portions.

Ezekiel 47:14 And ye shall inherit it, one as well as another: concerning the which I lifted up mine hand to give it unto your fathers: and this land shall fall unto you for inheritance.

Ezekiel 47:15 And this shall be the border of the land toward the north side, from the great sea, the way of Hethlon, as men go to Zedad;

Ezekiel 47:16 Hamath, Berothah, Sibraim, which is between the border of Damascus and the border of Hamath; Hazarhatticon, which is by the coast of Hauran.

Ezekiel 47:17 And the border from the sea shall be Hazarenan, the border of Damascus, and the north northward, and the border of Hamath. And this is the north side.

Ezekiel 47:18 And the east side ye shall measure from Hauran, and from Damascus, and from Gilead, and from the land of Israel by Jordan, from the border unto the east sea. And this is the east side.

Ezekiel 47:19 And the south side southward, from Tamar even to the waters of strife in Kadesh, the river to the great sea. And this is the south side southward.

Ezekiel 47:20 The west side also shall be the great sea from the border, till a man come over against Hamath. This is the west side.

Ezekiel 47:21 So shall ye divide this land unto you according to the tribes of Israel.

 

Ezekiel 48:17 And the suburbs of the city shall be toward the north two hundred and fifty, and toward the south two hundred and fifty, and toward the east two hundred and fifty, and toward the west two hundred and fifty.

Ezekiel 48:18 And the residue in length over against the oblation of the holy portion shall be ten thousand eastward, and ten thousand westward: and it shall be over against the oblation of the holy portion; and the increase thereof shall be for food unto them that serve the city.

Ezekiel 48:19 And they that serve the city shall serve it out of all the tribes of Israel.

 

Ezekiel 48:35 It was round about eighteen thousand measures: and the name of the city from that day shall be, The LORD is there.

 

[Revelation Man]

Rev. 20:4 says ONLY those who refuse the mark of the beast and then become Martyrs live and reign with Christ 1000 years. That means the rest of us don't fit that criteria. Since the Church is Raptured, in spite of what the message board warriors think, that means only a select few will reign on earth with Christ, the rest of us no doubt go back to finish off New Jerusalem, thus when it descends, it is called the Bride of Christ. 

[Marilyn C]

When will we rule and reign with Christ? What will it be like? Is it yet future?

Good questions there DeighAnn.

I believe similar to Revelation Man in the Body of Christ will be raptured. I believe that is very soon as the Holy Spirit is bringing us as a Body to maturity. (Eph. 4: 13) The Lord will come and we will know by His Holy Spirit just before we are changed and go to the third heaven where we will rule and reign with the Lord, there forever. (Rev. 3: 21)

At the moment the Lord is ruling in our hearts and we are becoming overcomers from the world the flesh and the devil. (Rev. 3: 21)

It will be a time of worship, rejoicing, learning and functioning throughout the ages to come. God is still creator and we will participate in wondrous creations to come.

The Old Testament saints have been promised the New Jerusalem which comes down out of heaven to the Universal realm where it will reside over the earth. (Heb. 11: 16,  Rev. 21: 2) The kings of the earth bring their glory into it. And the nations of the saved, (throughout the millennium) will go onto the new earth. (Rev. 21: 24)

Thus in each realm there are people who will serve and rule under the Lord Jesus Christ. 

regards, Marilyn.  

[Diaste]

8 hours ago, DeighAnn said:

What is the coming order of events?  

The powerful, crowned, multiheaded, gonna rule the world, 'beast' is 'rising' up from the sea.  (AKA a 10 headed powerful organization that is made up of the people of this world is gonna come to power  AKA 1worldorder,  LOOK AROUND)

Something deadly happening to one of the 'heads'.

War in heaven, Satan kicked to the earth

Him takin over False Prophet, his angels taking over 10 'heads'

The world comes to 'PEACE AND SAFETY'. 
Just get the mark, worship the whatever, and it's gonna feel like heaven on earth. SUPERNATURALLY SO.  

But them 2 witnesses just wont quit causing trouble, they are killed.  

And CHRIST RETURNS.  and satan is bound.

Morning.

There might be a one world order, NWO, that rises to power but I don't see that in scripture. I see the 10 kings, who have no kingdom, but have power with the beast for a time. That would mean the beast rises first, then the 10 kings. 

The first thing that occurs when the seals open is the white horse conqueror rides forth doing his conquering. This speaks to me as the first event of the end of the age. If this conqueror is the beast, surely it is, this is the opening act of the end of age and the beast has center stage. 

Not easy to see when the 10 kings rise with him nor when the deadly head wound happens. Both could be right away. Maybe the 10 kings rise first then the head is wounded later. But it's not one of the 10 kings that get the deadly head wound, it's one of the 7 heads; 

Then I saw a beast with ten horns and seven heads rising out of the sea..... 

One of the heads of the beast appeared to be mortally wounded.

The 10 horns are" The ten horns you saw are ten kings who have not yet received a kingdom, but will receive one hour of authority as kings, along with the beast. "

It looks t me like the order is the beast and the 10 kings rise together, or very nearly, and at some point the head is wounded after they rise. But there isn't any solid timing for this, other than scripture speaks to the rise of the beast at onset.

The war in heaven where Satan is kicked out looks like the midpoint. People say Satan was kicked out long ago but I don't see it. 

Rev 12:7-12 says it's only at this point "the great dragon was hurled down—that ancient serpent called the devil and Satan, the deceiver of the whole world. He was hurled to the earth, and his angels with him."

Just as a point of logic the great dragon could not be kicked out before the prophecy is given, then it wouldn't be prophecy.  :)

The beast and the false prophet are two people. "Both the beast and the false prophet were thrown alive into the fiery lake of burning sulfur." - Rev 19

"And the devil who had deceived them was thrown into the lake of fire and sulfur, into which the beast and the false prophet had already been thrown." - Rev 20

I don't see the world ever coming to peace and safety and I don't see that in scripture anywhere. If you know of such a passage please post it for me?

This is what I see. "For you are fully aware that the Day of the Lord will come like a thief in the night. 3While people are saying, “Peace and security,” destruction will come upon them suddenly, like labor pains on a pregnant woman, and they will not escape." - 1 Thess 5

Paul says, "While people are saying, “Peace and security...". They wouldn't be saying this is if peace and security existed. The people are still saying 'peace and safety' right up to the end, because there isn't any, they are wanting it because it doesn't exist. It hasn't and will not till Jesus finally takes over. I think Paul here is telling us what world conditions will be like at the end and it has more to do with the oblivious nature of the masses at the moment of destruction, á la "as it was in the days of Noah", than a time of peace and security. 

The time of the witnesses is going to parallel one of the halves of the week. It can't be the second half as that's the time when the beast reigns and the wrath of God falls. The witnesses get 42 months of unparalleled power and global influence where they cannot be touched, yet at some point the beast kills them. That would have to be when the beast is given power to continue 42 months. Not only are the witnesses killed here but we see the beast continue, so the beast has been operating even before this.

So what I see here is the beast, the 10 kings, and the two witnesses all come on the scene at the beginning. Not sure when the deadly head wound occurs but that could be the event that vaults the beast to prominence at the beginning; it also could happen anytime between the beginning of the end and the midpoint. It's just speculation but I feel it happens very near the beginning or is the event at the beginning. 

Then the dragon, the ancient serpent, Satan and the devil, is kicked out at the midpoint and begins the reign of terror at the midpoint. The witnesses are killed here. Some months, or a year or more, Jesus returns during the 2nd half; gathering up His elect and pouring out His punishment on the world. Maybe the mark is required at the very beginning but I don't think so. In Rev 13, which I take to be seamless narrative and chronological, the mark comes after the deadly head wound is healed, and the beast is imbued with power and authority, and after the FP rises.

1) Beast, FP, 10 kings, witnesses

2) Deadly head wound sometime in the 1st half

3) War in heaven, the dragon thrown to earth

4) Witnesses killed

5) The mark instituted.

 

 

 

 

[Justin Adams]

To answer the OP. RIGHT NOW. We are Kings and Priests and reign with the King of Kings right NOW.

[DeighAnn]

6 hours ago, Revelation Man said:

Rev. 20:4 says ONLY those who refuse the mark of the beast and then become Martyrs live and reign with Christ 1000 years. That means the rest of us don't fit that criteria. Since the Church is Raptured, in spite of what the message board warriors think, that means only a select few will reign on earth with Christ, the rest of us no doubt go back to finish off New Jerusalem, thus when it descends, it is called the Bride of Christ. 

The message of REVELATION is to the FINAL generation, so that it doesn't apply to the other 6000 plus years of GODS CHILDREN until the RETURN of Christ.  THEN ARMIES are coming with Him.  Who do you imagine those armies to be?   

Since the only time Christ is returning IS as Lord of lords and King of kings that would be the only time a 'rapture' could possibly take place and has been shown the only thing written by God about His return.  I am aware that men have taken verses completely out of the context in which they were written,  to try  this as a truth but it just doesn't work.  If it did,  no doubt those verses would be QUOTED. 

From the statement above, you don't believe that Paul, or any of the Apostles or any of the Prophets will be 'Priests' to rule and reign with Christ.    OK.  

Not sure what 'finish off' New Jerusalem means.  


Satan loosed, final war, lake of fire, New heaven and earth,  AND THEN NEW JERUSALEM.  
 

 

[DeighAnn]

5 hours ago, Marilyn C said:

At the moment the Lord is ruling in our hearts and we are becoming overcomers from the world the flesh and the devil. (Rev. 3: 21)

THE LORD BRINGS BACK WITH HIM THOSE WHO HAVE DIED.  THE RAPTURE WOULD REQUIRED GOD TO KILL HIS ENTIRE BODY. 
The only time the 'alive and remaining' are changed is when He is coming to set up the Kingdom on earth. 

EVERY generation has had to overcome the flesh and the influences Satans spirit has on this world.  So I will ask you this.  WHAT generation could have ever been more prepared to overcome Satan in person than the FINAL generation?  The benefits from all Gods working down through the years through 'the body of Christ' can never be surpassed.  

The time is certainly gonna need to be AFTER the bible was made available to ALL persons,  so we can pretty much eliminate the first 1600 years.  Then it was cost prohibitive for most,  so we can eliminate the next 200 years.  And it hasn't been proclaimed to all the world yet, eliminating all those others BUT we can't eliminate this one.  So ask yourself,  WHICH generation is most capable of putting on the WHOLE ARMOR OF GOD?  Maybe those who can freely talk to each other in groups at a single time, ANY TIME,  say over the internet?  Which generation will have had the benefit of all those who have spent their lives in the detailed break downs?  Which generation doesn't even have to learn Hebrew or Greek yet still can, with just a push of a finger have that information available at their finger tips?  

If there ever was a time in history that Gods Children could be more prepared, I would sure love to hear who they would be.  

I don't understand this lack of wanting to stand up for the Lord.  I don't understand 'will be persecuted' QUITS applying.  I don't understand how WE have it so easy that we are even looking for an easy way out.  Where is the love?  How many parents would give their life for their child?   Yet having to stand up against 'powers and principalities' for God is just asking too much ESPECIALLY when we have been given power OVER them?  I don't get it.  

 

Ephesians 6:1 Children, obey your parents in the Lord: for this is right.

Ephesians 6:2 Honour thy father and mother; which is the first commandment with promise;

Ephesians 6:3 That it may be well with thee, and thou mayest live long on the earth.

Ephesians 6:4 And, ye fathers, provoke not your children to wrath: but bring them up in the nurture and admonition of the Lord.

Ephesians 6:5 Servants, be obedient to them that are your masters according to the flesh, with fear and trembling, in singleness of your heart, as unto Christ;

Ephesians 6:6 Not with eyeservice, as menpleasers; but as the servants of Christ, doing the will of God from the heart;

Ephesians 6:7 With good will doing service, as to the Lord, and not to men:

Ephesians 6:8 Knowing that whatsoever good thing any man doeth, the same shall he receive of the Lord, whether he be bond or free.

Ephesians 6:9 And, ye masters, do the same things unto them, forbearing threatening: knowing that your Master also is in heaven; neither is there respect of persons with him.

Ephesians 6:10 Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might.


Here is what the wedding dress looks like, IS THIS NOT WRITTEN TO US?
 

Ephesians 6:11 Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.

Ephesians 6:12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

Ephesians 6:13 Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand.

Ephesians 6:14 Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness;

Ephesians 6:15 And your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace;

Ephesians 6:16 Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked.

Ephesians 6:17 And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God:

Ephesians 6:18 Praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, and watching thereunto with all perseverance and supplication for all saints;

Ephesians 6:19 And for me, that utterance may be given unto me, that I may open my mouth boldly, to make known the mystery of the gospel,

Ephesians 6:20 For which I am an ambassador in bonds: that therein I may speak boldly, as I ought to speak.

Ephesians 6:21 But that ye also may know my affairs, and how I do, Tychicus, a beloved brother and faithful minister in the Lord, shall make known to you all things:

Ephesians 6:22 Whom I have sent unto you for the same purpose, that ye might know our affairs, and that he might comfort your hearts.

Ephesians 6:23 Peace be to the brethren, and love with faith, from God the Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.

Ephesians 6:24 Grace be with all them that love our Lord Jesus Christ in sincerity. Amen.


IS it that 'the devil' is too powerful?  Not to us he isn't.   You read of the LORDS TEMPTATION in the wilderness,  EVEN the Lord suffered temptation.  

Times were hard.  He was hungry. ALL he had to do was WORSHIP the devil and the devil would have given Him power, and ease, and all the rest (lies)

and HOW DID CHRIST FIGHT BACK?  

WITH THE WORDS OF GOD.  

There is our example.  We have been told what is coming.  We have had time to prepare.  We have been given warning.  Just like all other generations we can heed those warnings or not.  

 

[DeighAnn]

1 hour ago, Diaste said:

Morning.

There might be a one world order, NWO, that rises to power but I don't see that in scripture. I see the 10 kings, who have no kingdom, but have power with the beast for a time. That would mean the beast rises first, then the 10 kings. 

The first thing that occurs when the seals open is the white horse conqueror rides forth doing his conquering. This speaks to me as the first event of the end of the age. If this conqueror is the beast, surely it is, this is the opening act of the end of age and the beast has center stage. 

Not easy to see when the 10 kings rise with him nor when the deadly head wound happens. Both could be right away. Maybe the 10 kings rise first then the head is wounded later. But it's not one of the 10 kings that get the deadly head wound, it's one of the 7 heads; 

Then I saw a beast with ten horns and seven heads rising out of the sea..... 

One of the heads of the beast appeared to be mortally wounded.

The 10 horns are" The ten horns you saw are ten kings who have not yet received a kingdom, but will receive one hour of authority as kings, along with the beast. "

Morning, sorry this is going to be real short, bathroom flooded and taking out everything, floor included.  

There are 10 earthly kings.  Then when Satan and his angels are kicked out those 10 earthly kings give up their kingdoms to the 'fallen angels' who rule 'ONE HOUR' with...

 

1 hour ago, Diaste said:

I don't see the world ever coming to peace and safety and I don't see that in scripture anywhere. If you know of such a passage please post it for me?

1Thessalonians 5:1 But of the times and the seasons, brethren, ye have no need that I write unto you.

1Thessalonians 5:2 For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night.

1Thessalonians 5:3 For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.

They are SAYING it because they are LIVING IT.  What they DON'T know is that IT is all a lie.  

If God were indeed the one here on earth at that time....that is what Satan is trying to copy and all those who don't know DON'T KNOW.   

 

1 hour ago, Diaste said:

The beast and the false prophet are two people. "Both the beast and the false prophet were thrown alive into the fiery lake of burning sulfur." - Rev 19

The 'offices' of them are thrown in the lake of fire so that at the end of the millennium Satan wont have the same use of them.  

 

1 hour ago, Diaste said:

The time of the witnesses is going to parallel one of the halves of the week. It can't be the second half as that's the time when the beast reigns and the wrath of God falls. The witnesses get 42 months of unparalleled power and global influence where they cannot be touched, yet at some point the beast kills them. That would have to be when the beast is given power to continue 42 months. Not only are the witnesses killed here but we see the beast continue, so the beast has been operating even before this.

It is the second half, it is when Satan is ruling.  It is when many, instead of taking the mark,  will come to the realization.  It is when the 144,000 are turned back to God.  THEY are killed in the final 3 1/2 days.  THAT IS what brings THE LORDs DAY.  

Touch not mine anointed.  

 

1 hour ago, Diaste said:

So what I see here is the beast, the 10 kings, and the two witnesses all come on the scene at the beginning. Not sure when the deadly head wound occurs but that could be the event that vaults the beast to prominence at the beginning; it also could happen anytime between the beginning of the end and the midpoint. It's just speculation but I feel it happens very near the beginning or is the event at the beginning. 

THEY are 'rising' RIGHT NOW.  The one 'beast' system will almost be up and running when the deadly wound occurs.  That ends the 1st half.  Two witnesses sent, Satan kicked out, deadly wound healed, Satans rule and worship buy and sell and two witnesses killed and the Day of the Lord begins.  

[DeighAnn]

1 hour ago, Justin Adams said:

To answer the OP. RIGHT NOW. We are Kings and Priests and reign with the King of Kings right NOW.

These are not MY WORDS

 

and the day of vengeance of our God; 

 

to comfort all that mourn;
 

Isaiah 61:3 To appoint unto them that mourn in Zion, to give unto them beauty for ashes, the oil of joy for mourning, the garment of praise for the spirit of heaviness; that they might be called trees of righteousness, the planting of the LORD, that He might be glorified.

Isaiah 61:4 And they shall build the old wastes, they shall raise up the former desolations, and they shall repair the waste cities, the desolations of many generations.

Isaiah 61:5 And strangers shall stand and feed your flocks, and the sons of the alien shall be your plowmen and your vinedressers.

(AND WHAT HAPPENS IN THAT DAY/1000 YRS?)

Isaiah 61:6 But ye shall be named the Priests of the LORD: men shall call you the Ministers of our God: ye shall eat the riches of the Gentiles, and in their glory shall ye boast yourselves.

Isaiah 61:7 For your shame ye shall have double; and for confusion they shall rejoice in their portion: therefore in their land they shall possess the double: everlasting joy shall be unto them.

Isaiah 61:8 For I the LORD love judgment, I hate robbery for burnt offering; and I will direct their work in truth, and I will make an everlasting covenant with them.

Isaiah 61:9 And their seed shall be known among the Gentiles, and their offspring among the people: all that see them shall acknowledge them, that they are the seed which the LORD hath blessed.

Isaiah 61:10 I will greatly rejoice in the LORD, my soul shall be joyful in my God; for He hath clothed me with the garments of salvation, He hath covered me with the robe of righteousness,

AS A BRIDEGROOM decketh himself with ornaments, and AS A BRIDE adorneth herself with her jewels.

Isaiah 61:11 For as the earth bringeth forth her bud, and as the garden causeth the things that are sown in it to spring forth;

so the Lord GOD

will cause righteousness and praise to spring forth before all the nations.

 

 

[R. Hartono]

12 hours ago, Justin Adams said:

To answer the OP. RIGHT NOW. We are Kings and Priests and reign with the King of Kings right NOW.

Jesus has yet to take over world government at the Armageddon.