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18 minutes ago, Arrabon said:

@OneLight

God says FEW will enter the Kingdom of heaven, and the way I see and hear the way that most talk and act, I'll go with God and HIS FEW.

I hope I'm one of the FEW, but I'm still working on that. :thumbsup:

I look at the bible as spoken in UNITY and HARMONY, and so there are no contradictions in scripture, so even though it seems like there are contradictions, we have to study to bring everything we read into harmony .

Its few who get saved in every century compared to those who get lost since the time be4 Noah flood till the rapture of the great multitude as in 1 Thes 4:16

But its called the great multitude as its not a few in Rev 7.

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@R. Hartono

I agree.

The "MULTITUDE" that are saved, are the some-total of all that are saved from the beginning of time, also known as the "FEW" of all time, compared to those who are lost called the "MANY" in Matthew 7:13.

Yes, the "MULTITUDE" are also known as the "FEW" in Matthew 7:14.

God bless

Seasoned by Grace

 

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For me I've always heard man say only a few will be saved. Like someone posted about the people in heaven .. OH PRAISE GOD a number no one could count.  Did not GOD tell Abraham about if you could count the stars? If you just call on the name of the lord you shall be saved! 


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Well, one thing for sure is this truth:

John 10:9

9 I am the door. If anyone enters by Me, he will be saved, and will go in and out and find pasture.

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As we have been born into darkness and all that we can perceive is through our senses (body/flesh)... we have no spiritual life within as that died in Adam. This leaves us all to trust only what our senses verifies through body/flesh... this is where the many remain AND naturally so! Yet God says 'all' have been given the witness of Himself and His existence:
 

Rom 1:18-25

18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;

19 Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them.

20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:

21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.

22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,

23 And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.

24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:

25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.
KJV
As we can glean from this 'all men know'= ' when they knew God ' the evident influence of the body and this darkened world of satan's influence has indeed 
2 Cor 4:4

4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.
KJV
So yes 'many' verses 'few' is understood in where man places his faith!

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Jesus laid down His life to make a way for us to spend eternity with Him.  Our concern in this age to make sure we spread that message far and wide, just as Paul advises the Philippians: 

Philippians 2:12-16 (NKJV)

12 Therefore, my beloved, as you have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling; 13 for it is God who works in you both to will and to do for His good pleasure.

14 Do all things without complaining and disputing, 15 that you may become blameless and harmless, children of God without fault in the midst of a crooked and perverse generation, among whom you shine as lights in the world, 16 holding fast the word of life, so that I may rejoice in the day of Christ that I have not run in vain or labored in vain.

And so that “when the saints go marching in,” we will be in that number, whatever it is.  

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Biblical examples of multitudes in heaven, "too many to count" as a  percentage of the many more who didn't enter the kingdom all click together perfectly. No disagreement is really in order over it so far as I can tell.

A small percentage of a whole lot is still too many to count. Simples :D

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On 5/26/2021 at 10:27 AM, JAG** said:

Will Only A Few People Be Saved? No. A Great Multitude Will Be Saved.
By JAG
May 25, 2021

Do these Bible verses teach that Christians are now, and will be in the future,
few in numbers? No.
Luke 12:32's "little flock."
Matthew 7:14's "only a few find it."
Matthew 22:14's "many are invited, but few are chosen."

Rev.7:9-10 forever and irrefutably settles this issue: The numbers of the saved
are not a "little flock" and not "only a few."
Are the following people Christians? Yes or No?
John saw, "a great multitude that no one could count, from every nation, tribe,
people and language standing before the throne . . . They were wearing white
robes . . . and they cried out in a loud voice: Salvation belongs to our God . . .
and to the Lamb."
To say No they were not true Christians is an absurd interpretation of Rev. 7:9-10.
To say Yes they were true Christians totally and absolutely eliminates Luke 12:32's
"little flock" and Matthew 7:14's "only a few find it" from being historically predictive
of the numerical size of the Christian Church ~~ unless you want to claim that
"a great multitude that no one can count" really means "only a few."

Jesus was asked specifically, "Lord are only a few people going to be saved?" Luke
13:23. If only a few people are going to be saved this was a golden opportunity for
Jesus to establish that truth, but Jesus did not reply yes only a few people will be
saved, instead He replied with an exhortation for people to "make every effort" to
enter through the narrow door. We now know, 21st century, why Jesus did not reply
yes only a few people will be saved: There are over 2.3 billion Christians in the world
today, and 2.3 billion is not "only a few" Christians. Jesus knew that His Christian
Church was going to become "a great multitude that no one could count from every
nation, tribe, people and language" and this is why He did not reply yes only a few
will be saved. He knew an uncountable multitude would become Christians and be
saved. And now you too know that ~~ because Rev. 7:9-10 says so.

Abraham's Offspring.
God took Abraham outside and said, "Look up at the sky and count the stars ~ if indeed
you can count them. Then He said to him, so shall your offspring be." Genesis 15:5
(see also Genesis 22:17-18 and Genesis 13:16)
These offspring, in number like the stars, were either the children of God or the children
of Satan. To have God telling Abraham that He would give him offspring in numbers
like the stars, the majority of whom would be children of Satan, is an absurd interpretation
of Genesis 15:5. So? So Abraham's children-of-God-offspring, in numbers like the stars,
cannot be a "little flock" or "only a few" in numbers. And Paul says in Gal. 3:7 "understand
then that those who have faith are children of Abraham" and in Romans 4:16 Paul says,
"Abraham. He is the father of us all." So? So Abraham's offspring includes the Christian
Church. And it's time to face the truth: The final numbers of the saved are going to be in
numbers like the stars in the sky because that's what God said in Genesis 15:5


In order to escape Huge-Church-In-Numbers-Like-The-Stars, John Tiny Church must interpret
Genesis 15:5 to say this: God took Abraham outside and said look up at the sky and count the
stars ~~ if indeed you can count them. Then God said so shall your offspring be ~ and by the
way the majority of them will be children of Satan.
John Tiny Church wants to escape the truth/fact that Abraham's offspring, in numbers like the
stars, are mostly the children of God, because this means that Luke 12:32's "little flock" and
Matthew 7:14's "only a few find it" can not be interpreted as historically predictive of the future
numerical size of the Christian Church and John Tiny Church does not like that. John Tiny Church
prefers an interpretation of the Bible that forever presents Christendom as a "little flock" and "only
a few."

There are over 14,500,000 Southern Baptists in the United States and 14,500,000 Christians
cannot be a "little flock" or "only a few."

John Tiny Church: The majority of them are not true Christians.

Paul Factuality: Only God can know that and you're not God so you don't know.

I'm going to repeat this several times because this truth/fact must be established and strongly
emphasized ~ that John Tiny Church does not have the wisdom, power, and authority to issue
his personal proclamation saying the majority of Christendom's 2.3 billion Christians are not true
Christians. There are hundreds of millions of Christians in the world 21st century and Christendom
is no longer a "little flock" or "only a few" and the one and only way John Tiny Church can escape
the truth/fact of Huge-Church-In-Numbers-Like-The-Stars is to claim that the majority are not true
Christians. So? So I'm going to repeatedly tell John Tiny Church the truth: Only God can know and
he is not God so he does not know.

There are over 1300 Protestant Christian mega-churches in the United States with a weekly
attendance of over 2000. That many Christians cannot be a "little flock" or "only a few."

John Tiny Church: The majority of them are not true Christians.

Paul Factuality: Only God can know that and you're not God so you don't know.

There are over 3000 Catholic Churches in the world with a weekly attendance of over 2000. This
many Christians cannot be a "little flock" or "only a few."

John Tiny Church: The majority of them are not true Christians.

Paul Factuality: Only God can know that and you're not God so you don't know.

Yoido Full Gospel Church in Seoul, South Korea has about 480,000 members. That many Christians
cannot be a "little flock" or "only a few."

John Tiny Church: The majority of them are not true Christians.

Paul Factuality: Only God can know that and you're not God so you don't know.

There is a huge underground Christian Church in China. "In 2018 the Chinese government declared
there were 44 million Christians in China." However there are some international Christian organizations
that say there are tens of millions more in China's underground Christian Church. This many Christians
cannot be a "little flock" or "only a few."

John Tiny Church: The majority of them are not true Christians.

Paul Factuality: Only God can know that and you're not God do you don't know.

When was the Christian Church a "little flock" and "only a few"? Answer: In the 1st century during the public
ministry of the Lord Jesus. These verses . . .
Luke 12:32's "little flock"
Matthew 7:14's "only a few find it"
Matthew 22:14's "many are invited but few are chosen" describe conditions that existed in the 1st century at
the time they were written. We now know they cannot be interpreted as being historically predictive of the
present and future numerical size of Christendom which is in numbers "a great multitude that no one can count,
from every nation, tribe, people and language." Rev.7:9-10

"I say to you that MANY will come from the east and west, and will take their
places at the feast with Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob in the kingdom of Heaven."
__The Lord Jesus Matthew 8:11

"For just as through the disobedience of the one man (Adam) the many were
made sinners, so also through the obedience of the one man (Jesus) the MANY
will be made righteous." Romans 5:19

"For those God foreknew He also predestined to be conformed to the image of
His Son, that He might be the first born among MANY brothers and sisters."
Romans 8:29

"In bringing MANY sons and daughters to glory, it was fitting that God, for whom
and through whom everything exists, should make the pioneer of their salvation
perfect through suffering." Hebrews 2:10

"For even the Son Of Man did not some to be served, but to serve, and to give
His life as a ransom for MANY."__The Lord Jesus Mark 10:45 (Jesus could
have said "for a few" but He didn't. Jesus said "for MANY.")

Question For John Tiny Church:
Is it your position that "few" in Matthew 7:14 means few?
But "many" in Mark 10:45 really means few?

If "many" in Mark 10:45 really means many, then many, not a few, are going to
be saved. Isn't that right, John Tiny Church?

The Lord Jesus: "I will build my church.

John Tiny Church: True, but it will ALWAYS be ONLY a "little flock" and few in numbers.

The Apostle John: "I looked and there before me was a great multitude that no
one could count, from every nation, tribe, people and language . . . they were
wearing white robes . . . and they cried in a loud voice, salvation belongs to our
God . . and to the Lamb." Rev. 7:9-10

Thank You Father, Lord Jesus, Holy Spirit for The Cross and for saving an
uncountable multitude of we fallen sinful human beings. We praise Your name
and we love you.

 

JAG

 

The "little flock" are referring to the anointed class (144,000) that will reign in heaven.  The "great multitude" refers to those that will remain on earth in perfection.

 

 

 

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