For, against, or neutral?

[Guest]

Freemasonry. Which of the above applies? 

Reading Tolstoy, I happened to stumble into the question of God and freemasonry. I am inclined to think a Christian should steer clear of this 'brotherhood'. Yet many think it harmless. 

What is your view? 

 

 

 

[Starise]

1 hour ago, Melinda12 said:

Freemasonry. Which of the above applies? 

Reading Tolstoy, I happened to stumble into the question of God and freemasonry. I am inclined to think a Christian should steer clear of this 'brotherhood'. Yet many think it harmless. 

What is your view? 

 

 

 

Run from it and don't look back. There is a female version of it to, the Eastern Stars I think.

It's really simple. Just look at what they teach, what they stand for and compare that to what Christianity teaches.

[just_abc]

49 minutes ago, Starise said:

Run from it and don't look back.  

Agreed.  Stay far away from it.  Not compatible with Christian teachings.  

[Dennis1209]

I'm no expert on the subject, but with any mystery or secret organization, it's is best to stay clear of them. Some of America's founding fathers were purported Christians and Masonic Lodge members, including G.W. Oil and water do not mix.

Some former 32nd degree Masons have written a book on the subject; such as Dr. Larry Bates. They are high enough up in the food chain to understand the Shriners and Masons; whereas, the lower ranking worker bees think it is only an exclusive benevolent organization of brothers doing charitable works. 

Based on books I've read from 32nd degree Masons, people in the know, that have been there and done that. It is an occultic and Luciferian organization, with mystic roots. 

I cannot confirm or deny this, and it's really none of my business. But our former Pastor was railroaded out of our church by three members of our Board of Trustees. The way they did it was unbiblical and didn't involve the congregation what so ever. 

I was confused and concerned about what happened and what is going on? In the course of my conversation with our former Pastor, he told me three of them were active members in the Masonic Lodge. Of course, this is hearsay; and it is not my business to ask them. I have not and I will not tell anyone about what I was told. It would be detrimental, gossip and possibly unsubstantiated. There does seem to be a "click" between the three, but what does that imply? They're friends. 

[missmuffet]

2 hours ago, Melinda12 said:

Freemasonry. Which of the above applies? 

Reading Tolstoy, I happened to stumble into the question of God and freemasonry. I am inclined to think a Christian should steer clear of this 'brotherhood'. Yet many think it harmless. 

What is your view? 

 

 

 

Against.

[other one]

very against the organization and the very top level of it's people, but the average freemason thinks they are in a fraternity of good people making themselves better and helping people.    It is a very dark evil hiding behind some decent folks that are basically funding the darkness unknowingly.

[Starise]

1 hour ago, other one said:

very against the organization and the very top level of it's people, but the average freemason thinks they are in a fraternity of good people making themselves better and helping people.    It is a very dark evil hiding behind some decent folks that are basically funding the darkness unknowingly.

Isn't initial entry into it a bit odd? I don't remember the particulars. It involved a  a blindfold and putting one's hand on a bible and saying some gibberish. I believe you make some sort of a pact right then and there kneeling before an altar. Not sure if the 'bible' is a real bible. They cover their windows. The ceremony is secret.

Anyone care to comment on this?  I remember thinking it would cause me to wonder about it.

[other one]

45 minutes ago, Starise said:

Isn't initial entry into it a bit odd? I don't remember the particulars. It involved a  a blindfold and putting one's hand on a bible and saying some gibberish. I believe you make some sort of a pact right then and there kneeling before an altar. Not sure if the 'bible' is a real bible. They cover their windows. The ceremony is secret.

Anyone care to comment on this?  I remember thinking it would cause me to wonder about it.

They do make some rather rash promises, and they can use a Bible or any holy book as long as it's only one god.  Masons accept anyone that is monotheistic.  They make promises not to divulge any of the secrets of masonry and to declare a gruesome death should they do so.   It's the upper degrees that start to tie things to the spiritual world, but not in verbiage that seems spiritual....    30th degree and up one should know what's going on.   Those that are found worthy are accepted as 33rd degree, but one can't apply for it, but must be elected by other 33rd degree people.  If interested one can read Albert Pikes "Morals and Dogma"  book for all the rituals.   It used to be printed only for masons.

 

[WilliamL]

A fundamental problem with freemasonry is the required swearing of oaths, and in particular, blood-oaths. Jesus told his followers not to swear oaths. That alone should be enough to avoid the lodges.