The Great Tribulation Will Be Upon The Antichrist And Wicked, The Sealed Church Is Protected, Dont Be Deceived

[Joulre2abba]

On 1/23/2022 at 5:21 AM, truth7t7 said:

There isnt a pre-trib rapture or Millennial Kingdom on this earth found in scripture, both are fabricated fairy tales of man

Jesus returns in fire and final judgement, dissolving this existing earth by fire (The End)

You can believe that if you want to but your statement is merely an invalid opinion and fabricated cherry picking denials of men against the testimonial scriptures from the old testament prophets and the new testament apostles. 

Jesus returns from heaven with all saints who got there by death & resurrection plus all saints who were alive at the time of the rapture that the apostle Paul wrote of.

If you don't believe in a Millennial Kingdom then what was Jesus referring to when he taught all believers to pray to the Father.. "Your Kingdom come, Your will be done on earth as it is in heaven."?

That is a rhetorical question because God's Kingdom is the future of mankind on the earth. The Millennium is the thousand years verses in Revelation speak of. It is the time given to Jesus who is God's man to rule it. The dream of Nebuchadnezzar in Daniel prophesies of and depicts it.

The Millennial kingdom occurs after Jesus returns which the OT prophesies and NT apostle John wrote of. The Millennial kingdom is a part of "The Day Of The Lord" as is the GWTJ and New Heaven and New Earth.

BTW.. with God's plan there is no end. The new earth being the mirror of the Genesis garden of Eden before sin and thereby be perpetual days of heaven on earth to all people naturally born during the Millennium and beyond.. ever after void of the devil and free of sin and it's consequences.

[truth7t7]

13 minutes ago, Joulre2abba said:

The Millennial kingdom occurs after Jesus returns which the OT prophesies and NT apostle John wrote of. The Millennial kingdom is a part of "The Day Of The Lord" as is the GWTJ and New Heaven and New Earth.

BTW.. with God's plan there is no end. The new earth being the mirror of the Genesis garden of Eden before sin and thereby be perpetual days of heaven on earth to all people naturally born during the Millennium and beyond.. ever after void of the devil and free of sin and it's consequences.

There Will Be No 1,000 Year Millennial Kingdom Upon This Earth, Jesus Christ Returns In Fire And Final Judgement, Dissolving This Existing Earth By Fire, Immediately After The Tribulation

This Existing Heaven And Earth Will Be (Replaced) By The New Heaven, Earth, Jerusalem, A New Creation, At The Return Of Jesus Christ

(Behold, I Make All Things New)

2 Peter 3:10-13KJV
10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
11 Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,
12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?
13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.

Revelation 21:1-5KJV
1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.
2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.
3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.
4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.
5 And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.

Matthew 24:29-30KJV
29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

1 Corinthians 3:13KJV
13 Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is.

Luke 17:29-30KJV
29 But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all.
30 Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.

2 Thessalonians 1:7-9KJV
7 And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels,
8 In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:
9 Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power;

Malachi 3:2KJV
2 But who may abide the day of his coming? and who shall stand when he appeareth? for he is like a refiner's fire, and like fullers' soap:

Psalm 46:6KJV
6 The heathen raged, the kingdoms were moved: he uttered his voice, the earth melted.

Psalm 50:3KJV
3 Our God shall come, and shall not keep silence: a fire shall devour before him, and it shall be very tempestuous round about him.

Psalm 97:5KJV
5 The hills melted like wax at the presence of the Lord, at the presence of the Lord of the whole earth.

Isaiah 66:15KJV
15 For, behold, the Lord will come with fire, and with his chariots like a whirlwind, to render his anger with fury, and his rebuke with flames of fire.

Zechariah 14:12KJV
12 And this shall be the plague wherewith the Lord will smite all the people that have fought against Jerusalem; Their flesh shall consume away while they stand upon their feet, and their eyes shall consume away in their holes, and their tongue shall consume away in their mouth.

Nahum 1:5-6KJV
5 The mountains quake at him, and the hills melt, and the earth is burned at his presence, yea, the world, and all that dwell therein.
6 Who can stand before his indignation? and who can abide in the fierceness of his anger? his fury is poured out like fire, and the rocks are thrown down by him.

Revelation 20:9KJV
9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.

Edited January 25, 2022 by truth7t7

[truth7t7]

16 minutes ago, Joulre2abba said:

You can believe that if you want to but your statement is merely an invalid opinion and fabricated cherry picking denials of men against the testimonial scriptures from the old testament prophets and the new testament apostles. 

Jesus returns from heaven with all saints who got there by death & resurrection plus all saints who were alive at the time of the rapture that the apostle Paul wrote of.

If you don't believe in a Millennial Kingdom then what was Jesus referring to when he taught all believers to pray to the Father.. "Your Kingdom come, Your will be done on earth as it is in heaven."?

That is a rhetorical question because God's Kingdom is the future of mankind on the earth. The Millennium is the thousand years verses in Revelation speak of. It is the time given to Jesus who is God's man to rule it. The dream of Nebuchadnezzar in Daniel prophesies of and depicts it.

The Millennial kingdom occurs after Jesus returns which the OT prophesies and NT apostle John wrote of. The Millennial kingdom is a part of "The Day Of The Lord" as is the GWTJ and New Heaven and New Earth.

BTW.. with God's plan there is no end. The new earth being the mirror of the Genesis garden of Eden before sin and thereby be perpetual days of heaven on earth to all people naturally born during the Millennium and beyond.. ever after void of the devil and free of sin and it's consequences.

As scripture clearly teaches below in 1 Corinthinas 15:23-24 , when Jesus Christ returns then comes (The End)

Many disregard (Then Cometh The End) as they desire to see a mortal Millennial Kingdom on earth, after the coming of Jesus Christ, that will never take place

(Then Cometh The End) As (Death Is Swallowed Up In Victory)

Afterward they that are Christ's at his coming. Then cometh the end, not a Millennial Kingdom on this earth as many claim

(Then Cometh The End)

(Death Is Swallowed Up In Victory)

1 Corinthians 15:21-26 & 51-54KJV
21 For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead.
22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.
23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.
24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.
25 For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet.
26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.

51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,
52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.
54 So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.

[Joulre2abba]

On 1/23/2022 at 8:14 AM, AdHoc said:

Your posting is read and noted. Your posting is the longest posting I've seen on a Bible forum without a single scripture. I gave three scriptures plus commentary on saints who will miss the Great Tribulation, and you came to the conclusion that I'm a "post-triber".  There is nothing I can say. My English must be a shambles.

Your response post doesn't have any Bible topic in it but rather commentary ranting.

I prefer to using my posting window time focusing on an actual Bible topic.

 

[AdHoc]

On 1/23/2022 at 8:33 AM, Joulre2abba said:

That is all identifiable as Post-Trib doctrine that erroneously applies to NT Christians what Jesus specifically told the Jews of the OT what would occur to Jews who still hold to the OT, and all of the unsaved alive on the earth during the seven year Tribulation. 

47 minutes ago, Joulre2abba said:

Your response post doesn't have any Bible topic in it but rather commentary ranting.

I prefer to using my posting window time focusing on an actual Bible topic.

OK. Let's start again. Your above response was to my posting of 14th January. I'll post it again and maybe you'll enter into "scriptural commentary" how this posting teaches Post-Trib doctrine? Here it is so you don't have to look for it:

I present you four mentions of the Lord coming as a thief. Matthew 24:40-45, Lk.12:36-40, 1st Thessalonians 5:1-4 and Revelation 3:3 

40 Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left. 41 Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left. 42 Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come. 43 But know this, that if the goodman of the house had known in what watch the thief would come, he would have watched, and would not have suffered his house to be broken up. 44 Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh. 45 Who then is a faithful and wise servant, whom his lord hath made ruler over his household, to give them meat in due season

In Matthew 24, this section starts with a parable. According to Matthew 13, the Lord speaks in parables so that Israel and the Nations cannot understand. A parable is for the Church's understanding. The immediate context is 2 workers, or servants. The word "Taken" is "paralambano" which means "taken as a well known companion". In verse 42 the lesson is for those who understand "YOUR LORD" - Christians. In verse 43 the "House" must be the Church because those who had the Lord are taken. Verse 44 confirms it with "therefore". The listeners are those who have "their Lord" and a house of servants. In verse 45 it is doubly confirmed. It is "HIS LORD", and triple confirmed by the fact that only Christians are rulers over the household of God.

36 And ye yourselves like unto men that wait for their lord, when he will return from the wedding; that when he cometh and knocketh, they may open unto him immediately. 37 Blessed are those servants, whom the lord when he cometh shall find watching: verily I say unto you, that he shall gird himself, and make them to sit down to meat, and will come forth and serve them. 38 And if he shall come in the second watch, or come in the third watch, and find them so, blessed are those servants. 39 And this know, that if the goodman of the house had known what hour the thief would come, he would have watched, and not have suffered his house to be broken through. 40 Be ye therefore ready also: for the Son of man cometh at an hour when ye think not.

Likewise Luke 12. Verse 36 they wait for "THEIR LORD". Only Christians wait for their Lord. Verse 37 it is "servants who are watching" - Christians. In verse 38 it is "servants" again who, in verse 39 belong to the same Household as the other servants. Verse 40 connects the servants to the thief Who is the Son of man. 

1 But of the times and the seasons, brethren, ye have no need that I write unto you. 2 For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night. 3 For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape. 4 But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief.

3 Remember therefore how thou hast received and heard, and hold fast, and repent. If therefore thou shalt not watch, I will come on thee as a thief, and thou shalt not know what hour I will come upon thee.

In 1st Thessalonians 5 the rapture has just been dealt with. In that narrative the Lord is descending. But He does not break the clouds for we, who are "caught away", MEET Him there. Then Paul changes from "you" - the Christians he is addressing - to "they". "You" the Christian must watch, for a thief comes with stealth at the circadian low when men are at their weakest. "THEY", the Nations, not only will miss the thief, but they cry "safety". It is clear then that the Lord does not come as lightening for the "day of the Lord". He slips in unannounced, takes what is valuable, and slinks away. Is this lightening from the east to the west?

Lightening, tell us the scientists, is 5 X hotter than the sun and though the flash-channel is very narrow, the brightness of a lightening is 600 X brighter than sunlight. Can a flash of lightening be "stealthy" like a thief?

I propose that The Lord, when He comes, has a journey. He now sits in the right hand throne part of His Father's Throne above the highest heavens. At a certain time, the Father releases Him from building the Church, and commissions Him to change the government on earth any punish mankind for their ungodliness. His journey takes him to the lower heaven where He is crowned and opens the Seals. He quickly continues His journey to the troposphere where the clouds are and causes His Church to be raptured to where he is in the clouds (1st Thess.4). During the Great Tribulation He sits on His "traveling Judgment Seat" (Bema - Gk.) and judges the Church in the clouds. After the 3 ½ years of Tribulation is over, our Lord Jesus leaves the clouds and, like a flash of lightening, is seen by all as He descends down to the Mount Olives. Once there He saves Jerusalem, fights Armageddon and sends His angels to gather Israel from the "four winds" as Ezekiel 37 predict.

• The Coming of the Lord is ONE journey with at least two stops along the way
• The Lord, on His journey to earth, stops in the clouds, and like a THIEF, raptures His Church
• While the Tribulation rages, Christ judges His Church in the clouds
• After the end of the Tribulation He descends from to clouds to open air like LIGHTENING, to land on Mt. Olives
• He changes the government of the world at Armageddon
• Having fought Armageddon and established His Throne in Jerusalem,  He sends His angels to gather Israel from the diaspora.

 

Edited January 25, 2022 by AdHoc

[truth7t7]

On 1/25/2022 at 5:44 AM, AdHoc said:

The Coming of the Lord is ONE journey with at least two stops along the way

The Lord, on His journey to earth, stops in the clouds, and like a THIEF, raptures His Church

• While the Tribulation rages, Christ judges His Church in the clouds
• After the end of the Tribulation He descends from to clouds to open air like LIGHTENING, to land on Mt. Olives
• He changes the government of the world at Armageddon
• Having fought Armageddon and established His Throne in Jerusalem,  He sends His angels to gather Israel from the diaspora.

 

The claim made is "Error" there will be one future return of Jesus Christ, as a thief the heavens and earth are dissolved by fire at his return

The claim made of a pre-tribulation of the church to heaven doesn't exist in scripture, it's a fabricated teaching of John N. Darby 1830's and promoted by C.I. Scofield's 1909 reference bible, better known as dispensationalism

2 Peter 3:10KJV

10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.

Edited January 28, 2022 by truth7t7

[AdHoc]

32 minutes ago, truth7t7 said:

The claim made is "Error" there will be one future return of Jesus Christ, as a thief the heavens and earth are dissolved by fire at his return

The claim made of a pre-tribulation of the church to heaven doesn't exist in scripture, it's a fabricated teaching of John N. Darby 1830's and promoted by C.I. Scofield's 1909 reference bible, better known as dispensationalism

2 Peter 3:10KJV

10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.

When a contradiction arises in the word of God, it is always we that have missed something. But then there is another reason. It could be that a man has held the wrong doctrine for decades and the thought that he was wrong for so long is too crushing, or the thought of re-examining things he was comfortable with for years is too daunting. Then there is the matter of losing face, a feature found among all men - not just the easterners. I think you have missed something - no sin and not worthy of accusing a man of. We are all in a learning process.

But when you find yourself upholding a thought, belief or doctrine that is met with solid counter arguments every time, you MUST, as a thinking man, and as a Christian, RECONSIDER. Have you noticed that you mostly avoid sustained logical debate on this matter. Here is another example. I write the LORD comes as a Thief, and you answer "THE DAY" comes as a thief. This is not the way to argue honestly. But that is not all.

In some scriptures the LORD comes as a thief. In Matthew 24:43 how come the "Goodman of the house" did NOT see him? But in Revelation 1:7 ...

7 Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him.

You see brother, you create a contradiction where there is none, and then ignore the perfectly simple solution that in His descent our Lrd Jesus MUST pass through the clouds and the Lord MUST burst forth in sight of every eye even if there is low cloud on that day. So the Lord COMING, or better said the Lord's "PRESENCE" (Parousia - Gk) in the clouds is HIDDEN, and His "Apokalypsis" (His REVEALING) is witnessed by all. A THIEF and LIGHTENING are diametrically opposed. One is silent, stealthy and comes for a special and valuable item. The other is brighter than the sun, stretches from east to west and the clouds to the earth - with an almighty bang.

The "THIEF" in Matthew is in context of a House, servants, one take and one left. The LIGHTENING is in context with Judea, Jerusalem and Mount Olives and "the Tribes of the Land". When scripture makes such a difference, even the dullest of men must make a difference too.

I have provided you with argument after argument - some from this angle and some from that angle. I care what you decide that is why I'm still arguing. But there is a point brother, when you should make a decision too. Is there a difference between a THIEF and LIGHTENING? You HAVE to deal with both events - not for me, but for yourself.

 

[truth7t7]

31 minutes ago, AdHoc said:

When a contradiction arises in the word of God, it is always we that have missed something. But then there is another reason. It could be that a man has held the wrong doctrine for decades and the thought that he was wrong for so long is too crushing, or the thought of re-examining things he was comfortable with for years is too daunting. Then there is the matter of losing face, a feature found among all men - not just the easterners. I think you have missed something - no sin and not worthy of accusing a man of. We are all in a learning process.

But when you find yourself upholding a thought, belief or doctrine that is met with solid counter arguments every time, you MUST, as a thinking man, and as a Christian, RECONSIDER. Have you noticed that you mostly avoid sustained logical debate on this matter. Here is another example. I write the LORD comes as a Thief, and you answer "THE DAY" comes as a thief. This is not the way to argue honestly. But that is not all.

In some scriptures the LORD comes as a thief. In Matthew 24:43 how come the "Goodman of the house" did NOT see him? But in Revelation 1:7 ...

7 Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him.

You see brother, you create a contradiction where there is none, and then ignore the perfectly simple solution that in His descent our Lrd Jesus MUST pass through the clouds and the Lord MUST burst forth in sight of every eye even if there is low cloud on that day. So the Lord COMING, or better said the Lord's "PRESENCE" (Parousia - Gk) in the clouds is HIDDEN, and His "Apokalypsis" (His REVEALING) is witnessed by all. A THIEF and LIGHTENING are diametrically opposed. One is silent, stealthy and comes for a special and valuable item. The other is brighter than the sun, stretches from east to west and the clouds to the earth - with an almighty bang.

The "THIEF" in Matthew is in context of a House, servants, one take and one left. The LIGHTENING is in context with Judea, Jerusalem and Mount Olives and "the Tribes of the Land". When scripture makes such a difference, even the dullest of men must make a difference too.

I have provided you with argument after argument - some from this angle and some from that angle. I care what you decide that is why I'm still arguing. But there is a point brother, when you should make a decision too. Is there a difference between a THIEF and LIGHTENING? You HAVE to deal with both events - not for me, but for yourself.

 

Feel free to post scripture that supports your claim of a pre-trib rapture of the church to heaven, waiting, waiting, waiting?

Edited January 28, 2022 by truth7t7

[angels4u]

33 minutes ago, truth7t7 said:

Feel free to post scripture that supports your claim of a pre-trib rapture of the church to heaven, waiting, waiting, waiting?

Does it really matter in light of Salvation?

What's most important is to be ready to meet the Lord!

The Lord is not slow in keeping His promise, as some understand slowness. Instead he is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance.2Peter3:9

 

[angels4u]

On 1/25/2022 at 9:44 AM, AdHoc said:

OK. Let's start again. Your above response was to my posting of 14th January. I'll post it again and maybe you'll enter into "scriptural commentary" how this posting teaches Post-Trib doctrine? Here it is so you don't have to look for it:

I present you four mentions of the Lord coming as a thief. Matthew 24:40-45, Lk.12:36-40, 1st Thessalonians 5:1-4 and Revelation 3:3 

40 Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left. 41 Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left. 42 Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come. 43 But know this, that if the goodman of the house had known in what watch the thief would come, he would have watched, and would not have suffered his house to be broken up. 44 Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh. 45 Who then is a faithful and wise servant, whom his lord hath made ruler over his household, to give them meat in due season

In Matthew 24, this section starts with a parable. According to Matthew 13, the Lord speaks in parables so that Israel and the Nations cannot understand. A parable is for the Church's understanding. The immediate context is 2 workers, or servants. The word "Taken" is "paralambano" which means "taken as a well known companion". In verse 42 the lesson is for those who understand "YOUR LORD" - Christians. In verse 43 the "House" must be the Church because those who had the Lord are taken. Verse 44 confirms it with "therefore". The listeners are those who have "their Lord" and a house of servants. In verse 45 it is doubly confirmed. It is "HIS LORD", and triple confirmed by the fact that only Christians are rulers over the household of God.

36 And ye yourselves like unto men that wait for their lord, when he will return from the wedding; that when he cometh and knocketh, they may open unto him immediately. 37 Blessed are those servants, whom the lord when he cometh shall find watching: verily I say unto you, that he shall gird himself, and make them to sit down to meat, and will come forth and serve them. 38 And if he shall come in the second watch, or come in the third watch, and find them so, blessed are those servants. 39 And this know, that if the goodman of the house had known what hour the thief would come, he would have watched, and not have suffered his house to be broken through. 40 Be ye therefore ready also: for the Son of man cometh at an hour when ye think not.

Likewise Luke 12. Verse 36 they wait for "THEIR LORD". Only Christians wait for their Lord. Verse 37 it is "servants who are watching" - Christians. In verse 38 it is "servants" again who, in verse 39 belong to the same Household as the other servants. Verse 40 connects the servants to the thief Who is the Son of man. 

1 But of the times and the seasons, brethren, ye have no need that I write unto you. 2 For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night. 3 For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape. 4 But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief.

3 Remember therefore how thou hast received and heard, and hold fast, and repent. If therefore thou shalt not watch, I will come on thee as a thief, and thou shalt not know what hour I will come upon thee.

In 1st Thessalonians 5 the rapture has just been dealt with. In that narrative the Lord is descending. But He does not break the clouds for we, who are "caught away", MEET Him there. Then Paul changes from "you" - the Christians he is addressing - to "they". "You" the Christian must watch, for a thief comes with stealth at the circadian low when men are at their weakest. "THEY", the Nations, not only will miss the thief, but they cry "safety". It is clear then that the Lord does not come as lightening for the "day of the Lord". He slips in unannounced, takes what is valuable, and slinks away. Is this lightening from the east to the west?

Lightening, tell us the scientists, is 5 X hotter than the sun and though the flash-channel is very narrow, the brightness of a lightening is 600 X brighter than sunlight. Can a flash of lightening be "stealthy" like a thief?

I propose that The Lord, when He comes, has a journey. He now sits in the right hand throne part of His Father's Throne above the highest heavens. At a certain time, the Father releases Him from building the Church, and commissions Him to change the government on earth any punish mankind for their ungodliness. His journey takes him to the lower heaven where He is crowned and opens the Seals. He quickly continues His journey to the troposphere where the clouds are and causes His Church to be raptured to where he is in the clouds (1st Thess.4). During the Great Tribulation He sits on His "traveling Judgment Seat" (Bema - Gk.) and judges the Church in the clouds. After the 3 ½ years of Tribulation is over, our Lord Jesus leaves the clouds and, like a flash of lightening, is seen by all as He descends down to the Mount Olives. Once there He saves Jerusalem, fights Armageddon and sends His angels to gather Israel from the "four winds" as Ezekiel 37 predict.

• The Coming of the Lord is ONE journey with at least two stops along the way
• The Lord, on His journey to earth, stops in the clouds, and like a THIEF, raptures His Church
• While the Tribulation rages, Christ judges His Church in the clouds
• After the end of the Tribulation He descends from to clouds to open air like LIGHTENING, to land on Mt. Olives
• He changes the government of the world at Armageddon
• Having fought Armageddon and established His Throne in Jerusalem,  He sends His angels to gather Israel from the diaspora.

 

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Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left. 41 Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left. 42 Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come. 43 But know this, that if the goodman of the house had known in what watch the thief would come, he would have watched, and would not have suffered his house to be broken up. 44 Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh. 45 Who then is a faithful and wise servant, whom his lord hath made ruler over his household, to give them meat in due season

I believe this will happen just before Jesus comes back to earth ,on the end of the Millenial..