Russia Preparing for War.

[Marilyn C]

7 hours ago, Dennis1209 said:

Good morning, Marilyn,

Let’s examine what we have both been taught for a moment. Compared to 5, 10, thirty years ago, have our thoughts changed, do we now have a better focus on how all these confederations are shaping up and coalescing?  

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What are your thoughts about the timing of Isaiah 17 and Jerimiah 49; Damascus, Syria ceases to be a city overnight, a ruinous heap? Given the biblical description of Damascus’s destruction, it looks as if the IDF carries it out, and I can think of only one way to fit the description, the Samson option.

Most probable a year from now, my observations and thoughts will be amended again, as time marches forward.

Hi Dennis,

My view hasn`t changed since I was taught it in the `70`s, - as to the Russian Federation plus some former Soviet nations and Iran, Ethiopia and Libya joining them. I was taught that when we see Russia & the 3 nations move, (the bear begin to move with 3 ribs in its mouth) then that is the time. 

As to Isa. 17 & Jer. 49, I see that as at the eand of the trib, with the great earthquake destroying all the cities of the world. (Rev. 16: 17 - 21,  esp. 19)

You think  a year, well maybe. i see it as more likely - 10 days!

[Marilyn C]

31 minutes ago, Alive said:

The parable of the good steward comes to mind.

 

That was for the people of Israel. Not that we shouldn`t be good stewards, but specifically that parable was for Israel.

[other one]

55 minutes ago, truth7t7 said:

It's on you, you didnt have to read the plot, smiles!

you are supposed to post a spoiler alert when you do that LoL

[Dennis1209]

1 hour ago, Marilyn C said:

Hi Dennis,

My view hasn`t changed since I was taught it in the `70`s, - as to the Russian Federation plus some former Soviet nations and Iran, Ethiopia and Libya joining them. I was taught that when we see Russia & the 3 nations move, (the bear begin to move with 3 ribs in its mouth) then that is the time. 

As to Isa. 17 & Jer. 49, I see that as at the eand of the trib, with the great earthquake destroying all the cities of the world. (Rev. 16: 17 - 21,  esp. 19)

You think  a year, well maybe. i see it as more likely - 10 days!

I could write a book on why the Tribulation is very near. If you add up everything I have written, it would be a book. About our only variance is the timing of the prophetic events, and I can never say I know for sure, with the exception of...

Never again! The nation of Israel has made several vows. I believe them, and what the Bible says about the fate and timing of Elam (Iran), and Damascus, Syria.

(1) They will take any and all actions necessary to prevent another genocide and diaspora (the Lord is on their side). (2) They vowed Iran will not join the nuclear club. Iran will employ an atomic weapon on Israel. (3) Israel has vowed, they will not permit smart weapon rockets near their borders. 

The time is at hand: All three of these things are now at their threshold, soon drastic action will have to be implemented and deployed to halt the threat of annihilation as a people and nation. 

Therefore, the timing for the destruction of Elam, and Damascus, Syria, seems inevitable before long.

There is little disagreement: Iran is weeks away from developing their first atomic weapon, if they do not already possess one by now. I understand they also developed a delivery system. 

I previously discussed the serious threat stationed on their northern border, and the headquarters of it all. 

What will be the 'spark' that ignites this powder keg, forcing Israel's hand for a devastating preemptive strike to stop it? I don't know, but both are on the cusp of testing Israel's resolve. 

The aforementioned are a couple of reasons I suspect the Gog-Magog invasion is post Isa. 17 & Jer. 49. 

[angels4u]

2 hours ago, Marilyn C said:

We`ll just have to wait and see....

Marilyn ,I believe the world is so very close to a war ,it will happen at some point and might lead up to the Ezekiel war ( most likely)

[Marilyn C]

33 minutes ago, Dennis1209 said:

 

What will be the 'spark' that ignites this powder keg, forcing Israel's hand for a devastating preemptive strike to stop it? I don't know, but both are on the cusp of testing Israel's resolve. 

The aforementioned are a couple of reasons I suspect the Gog-Magog invasion is post Isa. 17 & Jer. 49. 

Hi Dennis,

Why do you think Israel will strike when it says that God will judge Russia etc.

`I will bring him to judgment with pestilence and bloodshed; I will rain down on him, on his troops, and on the many peoples who are with him, flooding rain, great hailstones, fire and brimstone.` (Ez, 38: 22)

[truth7t7]

39 minutes ago, Dennis1209 said:

I could write a book on why the Tribulation is very near. If you add up everything I have written, it would be a book. About our only variance is the timing of the prophetic events, and I can never say I know for sure, with the exception of...

Never again! The nation of Israel has made several vows. I believe them, and what the Bible says about the fate and timing of Elam (Iran), and Damascus, Syria.

(1) They will take any and all actions necessary to prevent another genocide and diaspora (the Lord is on their side). (2) They vowed Iran will not join the nuclear club. Iran will employ an atomic weapon on Israel. (3) Israel has vowed, they will not permit smart weapon rockets near their borders. 

The time is at hand: All three of these things are now at their threshold, soon drastic action will have to be implemented and deployed to halt the threat of annihilation as a people and nation. 

Therefore, the timing for the destruction of Elam, and Damascus, Syria, seems inevitable before long.

There is little disagreement: Iran is weeks away from developing their first atomic weapon, if they do not already possess one by now. I understand they also developed a delivery system. 

I previously discussed the serious threat stationed on their northern border, and the headquarters of it all. 

What will be the 'spark' that ignites this powder keg, forcing Israel's hand for a devastating preemptive strike to stop it? I don't know, but both are on the cusp of testing Israel's resolve. 

The aforementioned are a couple of reasons I suspect the Gog-Magog invasion is post Isa. 17 & Jer. 49. 

I agree 100% with your observation, Israel is surrounded by enemies, and there back is against the wall, Iran cant maintain nuclear weapons, and Israel wont allow it, I also believe the inevitable is at the threshold

Edited February 2, 2022 by truth7t7

[Dennis1209]

13 hours ago, Marilyn C said:

Hi Dennis,

Why do you think Israel will strike when it says that God will judge Russia etc.

`I will bring him to judgment with pestilence and bloodshed; I will rain down on him, on his troops, and on the many peoples who are with him, flooding rain, great hailstones, fire and brimstone.` (Ez, 38: 22)

I don’t recall implying Israel will attack Russia anytime or anywhere? The way I read and understand it, both Damascus and Elam are going to be destroyed as I previously mentioned. I suspect these are separate events preceding the Gog-Magog invasion. Why? Because God alone defends Israel, and everyone will know it was the Lord alone who did it, for His Name and glory.

As Paul Harvey says; “and now, the rest of the story.” In Ezekiel 39, the Lord kills five-sixths of this army on the mountains of Israel. The remaining one-sixth start to flee back to their native countries being crushed.

The Lord also punishes the native countries consisting of this invasion force, in particular Magog (Russia). With such a devastating defeat of their armies, along with severe judgments of their homelands, they would be incapable of being a further threat to Israel.

In addition, has anyone ever thought about this? What is the commonality of the Gog-Magog invasion force? It is all Muslim countries, even Russia’s military is purported to be 40% Muslim. This defeat and judgment of the One True Living God (everyone will know it), in their Islamic countries, would put the nail in the coffin for Allah and Islam. Making the way for the One World Religion and the Antichrist to assume power and control.

I also suspect this could be the time frame of the Rapture of the church, causing further global chaos and a need for a man with a plan.

So, if God alone is fighting for Israel, they are doing nothing defensively and are not participating, and did not attack Damascus or Elam during this period. The Damascus and Elam prophecies had to occur sometime before this invasion.

Ezekiel 39:6 And I will send a fire on Magog, and among them that dwell carelessly in the isles: and they shall know that I am the LORD. [emphasis mine]

The “isles” are a mystery to me? Generally, in the Bible, isles are far away places over great bodies of water. A case can be argued that this is some sort of a nuclear missile exchange between Magog (Russia), and Britain, the United States, or whoever.

To recap: Isaiah 17 and Jerimiah 49 cannot occur during or after the Ezekiel 38-39 invasion. God is handling their enemy’s destruction alone. Those armies and their people’s homelands will be disabled and rendered powerless. So, there is only one logical alternative remaining on the timing of these coming events. Pre-invasion.

Amendment to a previous post: Perhaps Israel does not attack Elam causing its destruction. The population is fleeing from that area because something devastating and long-lasting has occurred. Given this area is where the majority of Iran’s nuclear material is stored, it makes sense the population is fleeing radiation fallout and poisoning.

Given this area is the most active seismic zone on the planet, could the Lord send a mega quake to demolish it?

I cannot say my view is accurate or correct. It’s my understanding of how I envision the sequence of events and possibilities. I will say, I do not think it will be long before it starts happening.

[JoeCanada]

On 1/29/2022 at 6:45 PM, The Light said:

It's certainly an excellent point Joe and I have noted it in the past. But there is this verse that must be addressed.

Rev 20

7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,

8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog, and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.

And there's this

Eze 38

11 And thou shalt say, I will go up to the land of unwalled villages; I will go to them that are at rest, that dwell safely, all of them dwelling without walls, and having neither bars nor gates,

It's a tough call.

 

Hi Light,

Looking at Rev 20:8>.... 

"8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog, and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea........

The nations are in the four corners of the earth.... they are not from the north only as Ezekiel 38:6 says. 

And they came up on the broad plain of the earth...."

In Rev 16:17>.... we are told that at the seventh bowl of Wrath, every island fled away and the  mountains were not found. This is the finale, after the trumpet earthquakes which began to flatten the high places. The earth is now a broad plain!

So we now see that the earth is a broad plain. God's Holy Mountain will be the light for the nations. God's Holy Mountain is the New Jerusalem.

We also see that "fire came down from heaven and devoured them"...Rev 20:9

And we see that "the devil was thrown into the lake of fire and brimstone where he will be tormented day and night forever and forever"...Rev 20:10

Now in Ezekiel, we don't see these things. 

We see that God brings down Gog from Magog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal, which is in the region of Turkey, not Russia. 

God says he will be summoned in the latter years, and come into the land, to the mountains of Israel... Ezek 38: 7-9

Notice it says "mountains"...plural.

Now you were questioning Ezekiel 38:11..."11 And thou shalt say, I will go up to the land of unwalled villages; I will go to them that are at rest, that dwell safely, all of them dwelling without walls, and having neither bars nor gates"

Even today, Israel is living "somewhat" securely in their land. And in the days to come, during the 70th week of Daniel or probably just prior to that, they will make a covenantal pact with a promise of peace and security. That could be the days of the fulfilling of Ezekiel 38:11. We will have to wait and see I guess. 

But Ezekiel 38 carries on and in:

verse 16..."It shall come about in the last days that I will bring you against My Land, so that the nations may know Me...

18- It will come about on that day, when Gog comes against the land of Israel....(what day?... it's the Day of the Lord)

19- there will surely be a great earthquake in the land of Israel (there is no earthquake in Rev 20 spoken of)...

20- the mountains will also be thrown down (plural mountains)....

21-I will call for a sword against him on all My mountains (of Israel, plural mtns)...

22...with pestilence and with blood I will enter into judgment with him..(there is no mention of this in Rev 20)

That is only Ezekiel 38.

Then there is Ezekiel 39........

Ezekiel 39:4... "You will fall on the mountains of Israel....I will give you as food to every kind of predatory bird and beast of the field..." (there is no talk or any mention of this happening in Rev 20 )

Ezekiel 39:11... On that day I will give Gog a burial ground there in Israel..." ( again this does not happen in Rev 20)

Ezekiel 39: 21-24... there is no way, no how that this can take place in Rev 20:

“And I will set My glory among the nations; and all the nations will see My judgment which I have executed and My hand which I have laid on them.  And the house of Israel will know that I am the Lord their God from that day onward.  The nations will know that the house of Israel went into exile for their iniquity because they acted treacherously against Me, and I hid My face from them; so I gave them into the hand of their adversaries, and all of them fell by the sword.  According to their uncleanness and according to their transgressions I dealt with them, and I hid My face from them.”

My holy name I will make known in the midst of My people Israel; and I will not let My holy name be profaned anymore. And the nations will know that I am the Lord, the Holy One in Israel.   (Ezekiel 39:7)

Ezekiel is the Time of Jacob's trouble.

It happens during the 70th week of Daniel.

Not before it.

Not after it.

But during it.

 

[truth7t7]

5 hours ago, JoeCanada said:

Hi Light,

Looking at Rev 20:8>.... 

"8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog, and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea........

The nations are in the four corners of the earth.... they are not from the north only as Ezekiel 38:6 says. 

And they came up on the broad plain of the earth...."

In Rev 16:17>.... we are told that at the seventh bowl of Wrath, every island fled away and the  mountains were not found. This is the finale, after the trumpet earthquakes which began to flatten the high places. The earth is now a broad plain!

So we now see that the earth is a broad plain. God's Holy Mountain will be the light for the nations. God's Holy Mountain is the New Jerusalem.

We also see that "fire came down from heaven and devoured them"...Rev 20:9

And we see that "the devil was thrown into the lake of fire and brimstone where he will be tormented day and night forever and forever"...Rev 20:10

Now in Ezekiel, we don't see these things. 

We see that God brings down Gog from Magog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal, which is in the region of Turkey, not Russia. 

God says he will be summoned in the latter years, and come into the land, to the mountains of Israel... Ezek 38: 7-9

Notice it says "mountains"...plural.

Now you were questioning Ezekiel 38:11..."11 And thou shalt say, I will go up to the land of unwalled villages; I will go to them that are at rest, that dwell safely, all of them dwelling without walls, and having neither bars nor gates"

Even today, Israel is living "somewhat" securely in their land. And in the days to come, during the 70th week of Daniel or probably just prior to that, they will make a covenantal pact with a promise of peace and security. That could be the days of the fulfilling of Ezekiel 38:11. We will have to wait and see I guess. 

But Ezekiel 38 carries on and in:

verse 16..."It shall come about in the last days that I will bring you against My Land, so that the nations may know Me...

18- It will come about on that day, when Gog comes against the land of Israel....(what day?... it's the Day of the Lord)

19- there will surely be a great earthquake in the land of Israel (there is no earthquake in Rev 20 spoken of)...

20- the mountains will also be thrown down (plural mountains)....

21-I will call for a sword against him on all My mountains (of Israel, plural mtns)...

22...with pestilence and with blood I will enter into judgment with him..(there is no mention of this in Rev 20)

That is only Ezekiel 38.

Then there is Ezekiel 39........

Ezekiel 39:4... "You will fall on the mountains of Israel....I will give you as food to every kind of predatory bird and beast of the field..." (there is no talk or any mention of this happening in Rev 20 )

Ezekiel 39:11... On that day I will give Gog a burial ground there in Israel..." ( again this does not happen in Rev 20)

Ezekiel 39: 21-24... there is no way, no how that this can take place in Rev 20:

“And I will set My glory among the nations; and all the nations will see My judgment which I have executed and My hand which I have laid on them.  And the house of Israel will know that I am the Lord their God from that day onward.  The nations will know that the house of Israel went into exile for their iniquity because they acted treacherously against Me, and I hid My face from them; so I gave them into the hand of their adversaries, and all of them fell by the sword.  According to their uncleanness and according to their transgressions I dealt with them, and I hid My face from them.”

My holy name I will make known in the midst of My people Israel; and I will not let My holy name be profaned anymore. And the nations will know that I am the Lord, the Holy One in Israel.   (Ezekiel 39:7)

Ezekiel is the Time of Jacob's trouble.

It happens during the 70th week of Daniel.

Not before it.

Not after it.

But during it.

 

Ezekiel 39 as seen below is nothing more than a historical prophecy, showing why Israel went into the 70 year Babylonian Captivity and how God was going to see their return to Jerusalem "Bring Again The Captivity" this took place in 536BC

A Historical Event Fulfilled

Ezekiel 39:23-25KJV

23 And the heathen shall know that the house of Israel went into captivity for their iniquity: because they trespassed against me, therefore hid I my face from them, and gave them into the hand of their enemies: so fell they all by the sword.

24 According to their uncleanness and according to their transgressions have I done unto them, and hid my face from them.

25 Therefore thus saith the Lord God; Now will I bring again the captivity of Jacob, and have mercy upon the whole house of Israel, and will be jealous for my holy name;

Edited February 2, 2022 by truth7t7