Russia Preparing for War.

[Diaste]

5 hours ago, The Light said:

Armies of today would show up with trucks and tanks and jets.

Yesterday I saw pictures of Ukranian people in the street holding wooden guns. Just regular people. Maybe it was training, maybe not. There wasn't full context so it's hard to say just what was going on. 

[other one]

4 hours ago, Diaste said:

Yesterday I saw pictures of Ukranian people in the street holding wooden guns. Just regular people. Maybe it was training, maybe not. There wasn't full context so it's hard to say just what was going on. 

The news stories I watched was training for citizens that had the wooden guns. They seem to be going the Swiss way in arming the entire population. It's not good to give a lot of people guns without safety training.

[JoeCanada]

10 hours ago, The Light said:

We don't know if mountains form in 1000 years.

Hi Light,

No, we don't know that. There are a lot of things that we don't know. So why speculate?

10 hours ago, The Light said:

Revelation 20

9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.

Eze 38

22 And I will plead against him with pestilence and with blood; and I will rain upon him, and upon his bands, and upon the many people that are with him, an overflowing rain, and great hailstones, fire, and brimstone.

And yet Ezekiel 39:4-5 says that "You will fall on the mountains of Israel....I will give you as food to every kind of predatory bird and beast of the field."

But in Rev 20.... When they surround the camp of the saints, fire comes down from heaven and consumes them..... poof!....they are gone, nothing left, ashes.... nothing for birds or beasts to eat.

10 hours ago, The Light said:

I will go up to the land of UNWALLED VILLAGES.

We don't know what will happen when Israel makes a pact at the beginning or even before the beginning of the 70th week. Many cities and communities in Israel are "unwalled" today.

 

10 hours ago, The Light said:

If Gog is buried in Israel in Israel at Armageddon, what's he doing 1000 years later in Rev 20?

Rev 20:10.... "and the devil who deceived them was thrown into the lake of fire"

The man "Gog" that is buried after the war, which is before the millennium, is just that. He is a man. The antichrist has a 3-part nature. He is a man (king), a political entity (kingdom) and a demon. 

The man is buried. The demon is chained for 1000 years. 

11 hours ago, The Light said:

9 And they that dwell in the cities of Israel shall go forth, and shall set on fire and burn the weapons, both the shields and the bucklers, the bows and the arrows, and the handstaves, and the spears, and they shall burn them with fire seven years:

Armies of today would show up with trucks and tanks and jets. After Armageddon there are not weapons of war. It will be 1000 years of peace. When war happens at the end of the 1000 years, I would think that the weapons would be bows and arrows, spears and shields.

We are assuming that the war machines of today will still be functional when the antichrist invades Jerusalem in the middle of the 70th week. Everything depends on "micro chips" to operate. Perhaps the supply chain will erode to the point that these machines will no longer operate. The Middle East still uses swords today!

 

11 hours ago, The Light said:

But the Word does say that Gog Magog happens after the 1000 years, and that Gog is buried. 

Yes, you are correct.

But it also says that Gog Magog will happen before Armageddon.

There are just too many contradictions in the narrative to justify it being only one war.

It's a near/far prophecy. Just one of many in scripture.

[teddyv]

15 hours ago, The Light said:

We don't know if mountains form in 1000 years.

Some volcanoes have probably built up in a thousand years. But mountains like the Rockies, Appalachians,  Alps or Himalayas built up over a long time.

[truth7t7]

9 hours ago, JoeCanada said:

Hi Light,

No, we don't know that. There are a lot of things that we don't know. So why speculate?

And yet Ezekiel 39:4-5 says that "You will fall on the mountains of Israel....I will give you as food to every kind of predatory bird and beast of the field."

But in Rev 20.... When they surround the camp of the saints, fire comes down from heaven and consumes them..... poof!....they are gone, nothing left, ashes.... nothing for birds or beasts to eat.

We don't know what will happen when Israel makes a pact at the beginning or even before the beginning of the 70th week. Many cities and communities in Israel are "unwalled" today.

 

Rev 20:10.... "and the devil who deceived them was thrown into the lake of fire"

The man "Gog" that is buried after the war, which is before the millennium, is just that. He is a man. The antichrist has a 3-part nature. He is a man (king), a political entity (kingdom) and a demon. 

The man is buried. The demon is chained for 1000 years. 

We are assuming that the war machines of today will still be functional when the antichrist invades Jerusalem in the middle of the 70th week. Everything depends on "micro chips" to operate. Perhaps the supply chain will erode to the point that these machines will no longer operate. The Middle East still uses swords today!

 

Yes, you are correct.

But it also says that Gog Magog will happen before Armageddon.

There are just too many contradictions in the narrative to justify it being only one war.

It's a near/far prophecy. Just one of many in scripture.

Ezekiel 39:9-10 clearly teaches the battle seen below is "Historical" with wooden weapons , Shields, Bows, Arrows, Spears, these weapons were burnt in the fires of Israel long ago

Ezekiel 39:9-10KJV

9 And they that dwell in the cities of Israel shall go forth, and shall set on fire and burn the weapons, both the shields and the bucklers, the bows and the arrows, and the handstaves, and the spears, and they shall burn them with fire seven years:

10 So that they shall take no wood out of the field, neither cut down any out of the forests; for they shall burn the weapons with fire: and they shall spoil those that spoiled them, and rob those that robbed them, saith the Lord God.

Edited February 5, 2022 by truth7t7

[angels4u]

25 minutes ago, truth7t7 said:

Ezekiel 39:9-10 clearly teaches the battle seen below is "Historical" with wooden weapons , Shields, Bows, Arrows, Spears, these weapons were burnt in the fires of Israel long ago

Ezekiel 39:9-10KJV

9 And they that dwell in the cities of Israel shall go forth, and shall set on fire and burn the weapons, both the shields and the bucklers, the bows and the arrows, and the handstaves, and the spears, and they shall burn them with fire seven years:

10 So that they shall take no wood out of the field, neither cut down any out of the forests; for they shall burn the weapons with fire: and they shall spoil those that spoiled them, and rob those that robbed them, saith the Lord God.

I believe this tells us how they will burn the weapons for 7 years after the tribulations before the millennial start….

 

[truth7t7]

1 minute ago, angels4u said:

I believe this tells us how they will burn the weapons for 7 years after the tribulations before the millennial start….

 

There's no such thing as a Millennial Kingdom upon this earth found in scripture

Jesus Christ returns in fire and final judgement, dissolving this earth by fire (The End)

[angels4u]

Just now, truth7t7 said:

There's no such thing as a Millennial Kingdom upon this earth found in scripture

Jesus Christ returns in fire and final judgement, dissolving this earth by fire (The End)

You and I disagree on that one…and that’s fine

 

[truth7t7]

12 minutes ago, angels4u said:

You and I disagree on that one…and that’s fine

 

If you desire, feel free to post one verse at a time in proving that a Millennial Kingdom exist in scripture, you will be shown it's a fabrication of man, found no place in scripture

Millennialist use Revelation 20:1-6 in a claim a literal Kingdom on earth us present, when it's 100% in the Lords spiritual realm

Then the Millennialist go to the Old Testament and use the (Eternal Kingdom) seen in the New Heaven, Earth, Jerusalem, and claim it's their Millennial

Examples: Isaiah 11, 65, Zechariah 14, Ezekiel 47-48 all represent the (Eternal Kingdom)

Edited February 5, 2022 by truth7t7

[angels4u]

3 minutes ago, truth7t7 said:

Of you desire, feel free to post one verse at a time in proving that a Millennial Kingdom exist in scripture, you will be shown it's a fabrication of man, found no place in scripture

Millennialist use Revelation 20:1-6 in a claim a literal Kingdom on earth us present, when it's 100% in the Lords spiritual realm

Then the Millennialist go to the Old Testament and use the (Eternal Kingdom) seen in the New Heaven, Earth, Jerusalem, and claim it's their Millennial

Examples: Isaiah 11, 65, Zechariah 14, Ezekiel 47-48 all represent the (Eternal Kingdom)

If I don’t forget I will do it later,I’m on my iPad right now,it’s easier to do that on the desktop pc