The alive and remaining are changed - doesn't that mean all the rest died?

[Michael37]

15 minutes ago, George said:

But why 7 days?

I like to think it corresponds to the 7 orientation points in the sphere of spacetime perception, namely:

1. Top
2. Bottom
3. Front
4. Back
5. Left
6. Right
7. CENTRE 

[Alive]

6 minutes ago, Selah7 said:

I think you need to show George a little more respect.  No need for this sort of conduct.

He is a son of God, the same as the rest of us and I love Him.

Do you mean like in a seat higher up in the building?

Sorry…been there. Its a bad place to be.

[DeighAnn]

2 hours ago, Josheb said:

They were living in the last days.

The last days began with the New Covenant and end with the RETURN of the Lord.  

"The Lord is not slow about His promise, as some count slowness, but is patient toward you, not wishing for any to perish but for all to come to repentance".


Therefore, AT HAND wouldn't necessarily apply to the 1st century  UNLESS  they were taken FROM THE WRITERS perspective and not the AUTHORS.  

Is PETER to be consider a SCRIBE for GOD and writing GODS WORDS  or IS PETER writing his own words and feelings?  

 

 

2 hours ago, Josheb said:

The Lord is not slow about His promise, as some count slowness, but is patient toward you, not wishing for any to perish but for all to come to repentance.  But the day of the Lord will come like a thief, in which the heavens will pass away with a roar and the elements will be destroyed with intense heat, and the earth and its works will be burned up.

Wouldn't the lack of 'the elements being destroyed' set 'the LORDS DAY' as future to us now,  and not 70AD as suggested by the AMIL belief?  

Any chance you will be answering my questions or did I miss a bunch of pages with your responses to the questions I asked?  If you say you answered them,  then I will go back and look for them.  If you haven't,  was that because you don't intend to?  Because if they were just missed, and it was not intentional,  I could easily post them all again for you but don't want to waste my time if will skip over them again.   

[George]

9 minutes ago, angels4u said:

This is what I found on the 8th day ,George is it accurate?

That's one study... The reality is Genesis 1:1, and the first chapter of Genesis has so many hidden mysteries that we've not touched the surface of what God is showing us!

[angels4u]

2 minutes ago, George said:

That's one study... The reality is Genesis 1:1, and the first chapter of Genesis has so many hidden mysteries that we've not touched the surface of what God is showing us!

Is it that God created everything in 7 days and the 8th day is the beginning of a new creation?

[Alive]

26 minutes ago, George said:

Does God do ANYTHING without a reason?  He chose 7 days...think about it!  He also chose the sun, moon, and stars to show us his appointed times!  If someone else has a Biblical view as to WHY there is a 7 day cycle...then perhaps the reasoning is what I've been suggesting all along.  

Of course He doesn’t. We only have to be careful how we build a theological contruct (template) around which we interpret scripture dogmatically.

C’mon, brother. I have heard and read and studied this stuff outside a vacuum for almost as long as you have lived.

My conclusion is: leave current events and prognostications in the rear view mirror and preach the Gospel. Love your neighbor.

Consider just how much skin in the game is invested.

Take a couple years off and consider before our Lord where the emphasis ought to be. I trust the result will be profitable, not in earthly treasure, but treasure in heaven.

The truth is, I am concerned you will wake up one day in 20 years, and wonder before the Lord why you wasted so much time on this current events end time diversion…..look away from unto Him.

Being about His business. I know this may appear harsh, but it needs to be expressed. We all need it.

Edited March 30, 2022 by Alive

[DeighAnn]

2 hours ago, Josheb said:

They were living in the last days. Who is the "beloved" in that passage? It is his original audience, not some people living 20 centuries later. There is NOTHING in the passage about the 21st century. Nothing. The only reason anyone would think this is about the 21st century is because their eschatology - not the scripture itself - tells them that's how they should read the text. 

 

Doesn't GOD knowing everything and everything that will happen, TELL US that HIS WORDS ARE WRITTEN TO US,  EVEN IN THE 21ST CENTURY?  I don't understand why what is written,  isn't seen as being WRITTEN BY GOD,  but by people of a certain era? 

GOD IS TIMELESS.  He had to address them to someone of the time DIDN'T HE?

Isn't that why NAMES HAVE MEANINGS,  so that it isn't only a specific PERSON that is being addressed or doing the addressing,  but is inclusive of ALL OF US?  

 

[DeighAnn]

I would personally like to let everyone know that the OP IS OPEN FOR DISCUSSION ON ALL SUBJECTS BIBLE RELATED.  I think I posted this a while back  but possibly didn't hit the POST IT.  

[Omegaman 3.0]

45 minutes ago, George said:

For example, NO WHERE in the Bible does it EXPLAIN why God chose 7 days to create the world?  Why not 1 day?  Why not 10 days?  But HE chose 7 days...why?

Well, technically, didn't he choose 6 days to create, and cease from his labor on the 7th? But I know what you mean, I think!

There are lots of thing God does not explain why He does somethings. That is part of being sovereign, you do not need to explain yourself. People often come with questions:

"Why did God do such and such ?" Often my basic response is the Bible does not say why! If it does not say why, then I do not know, and neither do you. Anything else is speculation, and that can be dangerous and misleading. Some things are not given to us to know, and frankly, often it is none of our business. I am often noting how some people approach scripture from a standpoint of "God's purpose in this was to . . . " and then they interpret scripture through that lens. If you know God's reason, maybe that is helpful, but we should not assume we know things which He does not state to be the case.

His ways are above our ways, and I have no good reason to think that my puny mind can fathom God's thoughts and purposes, which He has not revealed.  2¢ 

[George]

@Omegaman 3.0 I'll start a separate thread on the parallels of the 7 days of creation, types and shadows... The problem is I'll forget so remind me after this discussion is concluded.    Remind me to explain 1 Cor 15 Pauls reversal order and the 1/4 2/5 3/6 and 7 connection.