Those Who Are Convinced Christ Will Return In Their Lifetime

[Retrobyter]

19 minutes ago, enoob57 said:

Hence the stepping back a waiting upon the Lord…

Shalom, enoob57.

RIGHT! It's in the FATHER'S hands!

In regards to Alive's comment, I try to live by the phrase, "It's amazing how common sense is so uncommon!"

[enoob57]

The hermeneutic will take you to assurance of what the Scripture is saying and to context … it also will reveal where to stand and wait thus the plain sense remains plain sense… eisegesis verses exegesis 

many people think a thing and eisegete this can be corrected…

Quote from Matt Slick- Eisegesis is when a person interprets and reads information into the text that is not there. An example would be in viewing 1 Cor. 8:5 which says, “For though there be that are called gods, whether in heaven or in earth, (as there be gods many, and lords many,” (KJV). With this verse, Mormons, for example, bring their preconceived idea of the existence of many gods to this text and assert that it says there are many gods. But that is not what it says. It says that there are many that are called gods. Being called a god doesn’t make something an actual god. Therefore, the text does not teach what the Mormons say, and they are guilty of eisegesis, that is, reading into the text what it does not say. Compare with exegesis.

Exegesis is when a person interprets a text-based solely on what it says. That is, he extracts out of the text what is there as opposed to reading into it what is not there (Compare with Eisegesis). There are rules to proper exegesis: read the immediate context, related themes, word definitions, etc., that all play a part in properly understanding what something says and does not say.

Calvinism is a good example of this:
by these verses alone
1 John 2:2 (KJV) [2] And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.
2 Peter 3:9 (KJV) [9] The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.

calvinism is not possible … when John MacArther was confronted by this He dismissed it to mystery and that is error or at least wait before EDD is pronounced… all one has to do is accept free will and all the problems go away…..  there’s no longer a need to change words written in the text to make your system fit! As if God could not write the right words but that is what they are saying!

[Retrobyter]

4 hours ago, Shilohsfoal said:

You believe the great and terrible day of the Lord is not terrible. You must not have read much about it buddy. You must not know all the things that take place on that day or the things that cause them. Perhaps you should study up on it and see what all happens on the day of the Lord. 

https://biblehub.com/hosea/4-6.htm

Shalom, Shilohsfoal.

And, you're mixing up the "Days of the LORD!" EVERY TIME that God must step in, it is a "Day of the LORD." And, He's had to step in a couple of times already! He will step in again and put things to right, but He will do so at the END of the 1,000-year Day.

Hoshea ("Hosea") lived in the 8th Century B.C. and prophesied against the idolatry of the Northern Kingdom of Israel when Israel was divided from Yhudah ("Judah") in the south.

Hoshea prophesied that Assyria would take Israel captive and lead them away into Assyria in the northern area between the Euphrates River and the Tigris River in "Mesopotamia," a word that means "between rivers." This is what happened in 734 to 732 B.C. by Tiglath-pileser III and then again by Shalmaneser V in 724-722 B.C. with Sargon II. Sargon II attacked again in 716-715 with his son Sennacherib. Each time, som of the children of Israel were led away captive to cities of the Medes in Assyria, and were replaced by Assyrians transplanted in Israel.

This is what was written about in the book of his prophecy!

LEARN from history; don't try to force it into prophecy about OUR future! While God does promise that one day they shall return to the Land, that Day of the LORD is already over!

[abcdef]

1 hour ago, George said:

The Theophanies of the Lord are many ... but in every instance the angel was not named, however later in the same passage you will find YHVH or LORD in the same passage.

For example ...

Jdg 6:11  Now the angel of the LORD came and sat under the terebinth at Ophrah, which belonged to Joash the Abiezrite, while his son Gideon was beating out wheat in the winepress to hide it from the Midianites. 

Jdg 6:12  And the angel of the LORD appeared to him and said to him, “The LORD is with you, O mighty man of valor.” 

Jdg 6:14  And the LORD turned to him and said, “Go in this might of yours and save Israel from the hand of Midian; do not I send you?” 

Michael, "Who is like God"?

Although this seems to be a rhetorical question with an obvious answer, that is, no one is like Him/God.

It seems that in our kingdom age that there is an answer revealed.

Jesus the Son of God is like Him/God.

So Michael himself may be the answer to the question. But the question could not be answered until after Jesus was revealed as the Son of God.

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[abcdef]

15 hours ago, Revelation Man said:

The Man in Linen was a preincarnate Jesus. BUT........Your timing is way off, all you have to do to find the timing brother is to look at Dan. 1:2 it clearly tells us the timing, these things (Dan. 11:36-45) will happen when Michael STANDS UP and when those dead are JUDGED and RAISED from the dead. Your concept of Dan. 12:6 and 7 is perfect then you wreck it by not seeing the correct END TIME is not 70 AD but NOW or real END TIME END TIMES.

7o AD was the end times of the temple age, when Jerusalem and the temple were destroyed by Roman armies. The last days of the temple age for the apostles and the people of Israel.

The final last days are when the kingdom is taken by Jesus at the second coming for salvation resur/rapt and life on this planet ends.

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You say that Michael is Jesus, then when did Jesus stand up and deliver Israel from sin? 33 AD.

When does the resurrection of the good and evil happen? Soon. Daniel like all souls will stand in his generation before the throne at the Rev 20:11-15 judgment.

 

15 hours ago, Revelation Man said:

So, Daniel 11:45 is the END of the Anti-Christ, it says so, thus now Daniel is given the vision details in Daniel 12.

The Greek Antichrist was Antiochus, brass. Dan. 11:2.

The Roman Antichrist was Caesar and the Bishop of Rome, iron.

 

15 hours ago, Revelation Man said:

 

Dan. 12:1  And at that time(Dan. 11:36-45) shall Michael stand up(Rev. 12), the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time(6 Million Jews killed in WW2, thus AD 70 can not be THAT TIME): and at that time thy people shall be delivered(Israel WERE NOT Delivered in 70 AD), every one that shall be found written in the book.

The trib period is the time of the iron in the statue of Dan. 2, starting in 63 BC.

The "great" trib that Jesus talked about was after 70 AD when Israel was scattered among the gentile nations.

The great trib lasted until Jerusalem was restored to Israel in 1967. So this would include WW 2.

Had Hitler not been stopped, no flesh of Israel would have been saved, to fulfill the prophecies to restore Jerusalem. There would have been too few left to maintain the family of Israel and they would have been absorbed into the gentile nations and ceased to be a unique genetic race.

That danger continues to this day.

 

15 hours ago, Revelation Man said:

2 And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt. {God judges at the VERY END, not in 70 AD}

So, you take your perfect concept, and all because of a BAD TIMING understanding you lose your way here brother.

 

15 hours ago, Revelation Man said:

  The Time, times and half are indeed the KEY to all end time prophesy understandings. It even tells us its shut up until the END TIMES.

This is true. But the 7 times, two 3 1/2 times, are the same time period shown in the statue of the gentile nations, from the gold to the end of the iron/clay toes.

They are not 7 years or 3 1/2 years, they are symbolic of the times of the gentiles until Jerusalem is restored.

1st, 3 1/2 times, ..... Babylon until the 70 AD great scattering.

2nd, 3 1/2 times, ..... 70 AD until Jerusalem is restored in 1967.

Centuries.

 

15 hours ago, Revelation Man said:

Dan. 12:4 But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased.

The book is sealed until the time of the end.

Jesus opened the book/scroll in the 85-96 AD ish time period.

This means that John wrote after the "time of the end" had begun, that is, the 2nd 3 1/2 times. Because then the book could be opened.

It cannot be opened again, because it is already open.

The scroll tells the story of the people of Israel after the 70 AD scattering.

 

15 hours ago, Revelation Man said:

Then I Daniel looked, and, behold, there stood other two, the one on this side of the bank of the river, and the other on that side of the bank of the river.

6 And one(Gabriel or Micheal) said to the man clothed in linen(Jesus), which was upon the waters of the river, How long shall it be to the end of these wonders? (Dan. 11:36-45)

7 And I heard the man clothed in linen, which was upon the waters of the river, when he held up his right hand and his left hand unto heaven, and sware by him that liveth for ever that it shall be for a time, times, and an half(1260 Days); and when he(The Anti-Chrst seen in Dan. 11:36-45) shall have accomplished to scatter the power of the holy people, all these things shall be finished. {{ So, from the time the Anti-Christ, seen in Dan. 11:36-45, Conquers Israel until ALL THESE WONDERS HAVE ENDED (seen in Dan. 11:36-45) there will be 1260 days in which he reigns.

It is not the Greek Antichrist that scatters Israel completely into the gentile nations. It is the Roman Caesar Antichrist who destroys Jerusalem and the temple and scatters the people.

 

15 hours ago, Revelation Man said:

Here is where most people get lost in the weeds, they understand, at least in most cases, that this is referring to the End Time Anti-Christs reign, and that he will rule for 42 months, then they for some reason (I did for 30 plus years) miss the 1290 and 1335 are SPECIFIC DATES that are 1290 days until ALL THESE WONDERS END and 1335 days until ALL THESE WONDERS END, we then have to figure out what the Events are, Jesus was secretive on purpose, go your way Daniel, it is shut up until the end !! But in verse 8 we can see Daniel asks the exact same question  the Angel asked in verse 6. So the answer is the exact same type of answer, just a different date or event.

Dan. 12:8 And I heard, but I understood not: then said I, O my Lord, what shall be the end of these things?

9 And he said, Go thy way, Daniel: for the words are closed up and sealed till the time of the end.

10 Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried; (Via Jesus' blood) but the wicked shall do wickedly: and none of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall understand.

11 And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days. (Till ALL THESE WONDERS END....See the question in verse 8)

12 Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days. {Whatever this BLESSING is it comes 1335 days before ALL THESE WONDERS END which Daniel saw in Dan. 11:36-45}

So, the 1335 COMES FIRST, the 1290 then comes NEXT and then the Anti-Christ goes forth conquering in the middle of the week.

One has to then think, research, study, pray to get what these events are, since the 1290 can't be the Anti-Christ this is pretty simple, at least it was to me, it has to be the False Prophet, the right hand man of the Anti-Christ, and he thus has to e a Jewish High Priest in power of the temple, he thus places the IMAGE of the Beast (E.U. President) up in the temple, well lo and behold Rev. 13 says just that, the 2nd Beast gets the people to make an IMAGE of the Beast. So, what does take away THE SACRIFICE really mean? Well, Jesus (Man in Linen) and Gabriel are not talking about a profane sacrifice defiling the temple, they would laugh at that thought, God sees any meat sacrifice in the temple as an ABOMINATION, his son has died, thus that which is TAKEN AWAY (FORBIDEN) is Jesus Worship by a peoples (the Jews) who REPENT just BEFORE the coming DOTL as both Zechariah 13:8-9 and 14:1 clearly says, 1/3 will repent THEN one verse later in 14:1 we see the Day of the Lord has ARRIVED !! Also in Malachi 4:5 it states that Elijah the Prophet will be sent back BEFORE the Great and Dreadful Day of the Lord !!

See how it all meshes my friend? When we get Prophesy right it always meshes because God is never wrong, we as men are, I was for 30 years not in the know, but I mostly stayed silent. When God gives me I speak. Now, He has always shown me what is wrong, like the RCC, England, stuff by Armstrong, but only after I learned I had to quit trusting all supposed cemented facts did I start to see many FACTS were just men's traditions. How could God teach us END TIME THINGS when He told Daniel they would be locked up until the very end ? 

1335 = the Two-witnesses, that is why they must die BEFORE the Beast dies, they both have 1260 day Ordained Ministries on earth.

1290 = the False Prophet (A Jewish High Priest like unto Jason who lived under Antiochus Epiphanes, research what he did, he welcomed Antiochus into the temple to sacrifice a pig unto Zeus on God's altar, then tried to Hellenize the Jews leading unto the Maccabean Revolt, this end time man will do the exact same things which he did.

1260 = the Anti-Christ conquering Israel.

The two-witnesses come first, then the False Prophet, then the AC

Caesar was revealed as the Antichrist at the 70 AD ish destruction of Jerusalem and the temple.

It was also revealed at that time that Rome was the iron nation of Dan. 2 and the 4th beast of Dan. 7.

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What scriptures are about the 70 AD through 1967 time period?

 

 

[Revelation Man]

15 hours ago, George said:

Why study prophecy?  Because you'll be blessed! 

Rev 1:3  Blessed is the one who reads aloud the words of this prophecy, and blessed are those who hear, and who keep what is written in it, for the time is near.

100 percent correct brother George, by the way, keep the blogs coming, love the ones I have read. 

Many people get disillusioned because of the wacko types like David Koresh, Jim Jones, Armstrong, White etc. but we can't let those types keep us from pushing forward in the prophetic utterings of God. Fulfilled Prophesy is a great way to peak the interest of many unbelievers., and if we can get them listening, the holy spirit can draw them unto God, as he did us, by pricking our hearts. I guess we all just have different styles and callings.

[Shilohsfoal]

2 hours ago, Retrobyter said:

Shalom, Shilohsfoal.

And, you're mixing up the "Days of the LORD!" EVERY TIME that God must step in, it is a "Day of the LORD." And, He's had to step in a couple of times already! He will step in again and put things to right, but He will do so at the END of the 1,000-year Day.

Hoshea ("Hosea") lived in the 8th Century B.C. and prophesied against the idolatry of the Northern Kingdom of Israel when Israel was divided from Yhudah ("Judah") in the south.

Hoshea prophesied that Assyria would take Israel captive and lead them away into Assyria in the northern area between the Euphrates River and the Tigris River in "Mesopotamia," a word that means "between rivers." This is what happened in 734 to 732 B.C. by Tiglath-pileser III and then again by Shalmaneser V in 724-722 B.C. with Sargon II. Sargon II attacked again in 716-715 with his son Sennacherib. Each time, som of the children of Israel were led away captive to cities of the Medes in Assyria, and were replaced by Assyrians transplanted in Israel.

This is what was written about in the book of his prophecy!

LEARN from history; don't try to force it into prophecy about OUR future! While God does promise that one day they shall return to the Land, that Day of the LORD is already over!

Perhaps you could show me one verse that says"days of the lord"? 

[Revelation Man]

8 hours ago, abcdef said:

7o AD was the end times of the temple age, when Jerusalem and the temple were destroyed by Roman armies. The last days of the temple age for the apostles and the people of Israel.

The final last days are when the kingdom is taken by Jesus at the second coming for salvation resur/rapt and life on this planet ends.

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You say that Michael is Jesus, then when did Jesus stand up and deliver Israel from sin? 33 AD.

When does the resurrection of the good and evil happen? Soon. Daniel like all souls will stand in his generation before the throne at the Rev 20:11-15 judgment.

This is my point brother, I can see you have much knowledge, but you conflate the timing, God has gifted me with insight on the timing, its not of me, I am nothing special, but I am like a dog on a bone, I refused to stop bugging God until I got the answers lol. I am like the short, slow white Wide Receiver who catches more balls because I outwork others in practice.

Anyway, I do not say Jesus is Michael at all, there are two Angels with the Man in Linen, no Angel has the right to SWEAR by God Almighty in Heaven, that is Jesus Christ, Gabriel and Michael were the two Angels with him on either side. Michael will stand up to Protect Israel for God in Rev. 12, when the Woman (Israel) flees into the Wilderness. 

The Resurrection of the Jews happen at the very end, after the Second Coming, the Rapture and Resurrection of the Church happens at the time of the End of the Gentiles, just before the 70th week starts. 

8 hours ago, abcdef said:

The Greek Antichrist was Antiochus, brass. Dan. 11:2.

The Roman Antichrist was Caesar and the Bishop of Rome, iron.

No, you miss it, the reason both Greece and Rome were overlapping Beasts is because the Anti-Christ comes out of BOTH Kingdoms at once. He also has to have Assyrian blood via Isaiah chapter 10. So, Rome and Greece overlaps, we indeed get the Lineage of the Anti-Christ in Dan. 11, all the way through verse 34, because Antiochus is the TYPE Anti-Christ in verses 21-34 (35 is a TRANSITION verse that covers the Church Age). 

So, in Dan. 8:9 we are told he has to be born in Greece via the DIRECTION he conquers TOWARDS, the East, South, and Israel, which means in a simple four way directional box he can only come forth from or Conquer from the Northwest corridor or Greece. Next, he has to Rule from the old Fourth Beast via the 10 Kings (its not 10, that number means COMPLETION, thus the 10 simply represents ALL Europe reunited...or the E.U.) thus Greece being in the E.U. whilst Turkey nor Egypt is pretty much settles the issue, God also says he has to have  Assyrian blood (Turkey, Iraq and Syria made up Old Assyria, people living on the Turkey and Greece border have been migrating back and forth for eons, so he is a Turk, whose parents or grandparents migrated to Greece where he was then born, thus by being a Grecian, he is eligible to be the E.U. President. Thus he can come out of Greece (Dan. 8:9) AND rule as the E.U. President (Dan. 7:7-8), WHILST having Turkish blood (Isaiah 10).

Both were probably TYPES, never thought much about Cesar being the TYPE but I know Antiochus was the type, the reason I point to Greece and Antiochus more so than Cesar and Rome is because Antiochus murdered 60,000 Jews strictly because they worshiped God, he also sacrificed a pig on the Altar of God, he had a Pious High Priest named Onias III killed and placed his brother whose name was Jason (real name Yeshua) into the seat of the High Priest of Israel, and Jason believed in Hellenization, he tried to mandate all the Jews become Hellenized, leading to the Maccabean Revolt as seen in Dan. 11:32-34, so with Antiochus we had both TYPES living at the exact same time, Antiochus & Jason (the False Prophet TYPE) and we hade the AoD TYPE also, so Antiochus is really the only type Anti-Christ I have ever looked deeply into, he fits all the parameters brother. But I don't deny there are other types, just that Antiochus is the MAIN ONE.  The last type needed in reality Cesar cant fit perfectly because he was not Grecian. 

8 hours ago, abcdef said:

The trib period is the time of the iron in the statue of Dan. 2, starting in 63 BC.

No it is not, I gave you reasons and parameters why this can't be true brother, the greatest ever troubles can not be any time prior to World War 2 because 6 million Jews were killed. 

8 hours ago, abcdef said:

The "great" trib that Jesus talked about was after 70 AD when Israel was scattered among the gentile nations.

The great trib lasted until Jerusalem was restored to Israel in 1967. So this would include WW 2.

Had Hitler not been stopped, no flesh of Israel would have been saved, to fulfill the prophecies to restore Jerusalem. There would have been too few left to maintain the family of Israel and they would have been absorbed into the gentile nations and ceased to be a unique genetic race.

That danger continues to this day.

Well, all time is TRIBULATION as Jesus stated in John 16:33. But there is but one GREATEST EVERT TRIB, and that is what Dan. 12:1-2 is speaking of. 

The Greatest ever troubles happens after the Rapture, during the end time 70th week. Hitler was not the Anti-Christ, he must be a Greek by birth. And Israel has to be in the land at that time, no Beast can come forth until the Church is Raptured, we (the Church) DELIVERED the Mortal Wound to the 7 Headed Beast System, only when the Anti-Christ comes forth will the Beast reemerge. By our blood (Church) we turned Rome from a Beast to a Conveyor Belt of the Gospel of Jesus Christ, Amen. Jesus said the gates of hell will not prevail against his Church !!

8 hours ago, abcdef said:

This is true. But the 7 times, two 3 1/2 times, are the same time period shown in the statue of the gentile nations, from the gold to the end of the iron/clay toes.

They are not 7 years or 3 1/2 years, they are symbolic of the times of the gentiles until Jerusalem is restored.

1st, 3 1/2 times, ..... Babylon until the 70 AD great scattering.

2nd, 3 1/2 times, ..... 70 AD until Jerusalem is restored in 1967.

Centuries.

Nope, the 69 weeks are passed, then God made Israel as dead men's bones, he revived them and they now await (unknowingly) the time of the Gentiles to be finished (Church Age), then they will have 7 years to Repent, but we can see that they repent just before the Middle of the Week as Zechariah 13:8-9 shows us. 1/3 or 3-5 million Jews repent, but 2/3 refuse to repent and will perish/be cut-off. Then in the very next verse in Zechariah 14:1 we are told BEHOLD the Day of the Lord has come/arrived !! So, the Jews repent just before the Middle of the week 1260 Event, during the 70th week.

THINK NOW, I see you are hip on all of the Daniel statues etc. etc. But you fail to allow God to tell the story like He wants to. Do me a favor, try this. TAKE OUT THE CHURCH AGE COMPLETELY !!

Now there is no Church Age (Time of the Gentiles) !! Do the Statues fit together perfectly now? SMILE !! Do the Beasts fit Perfectly now? Remember, we are dealing with an all knowing perfect God. He can tell two stories at once and intermingle them together. We can know these things but the world seeing can't comprehend these things. It is His way.

8 hours ago, abcdef said:

The book is sealed until the time of the end.

Which is NOW.

8 hours ago, abcdef said:

It is not the Greek Antichrist that scatters Israel completely into the gentile nations. It is the Roman Caesar Antichrist who destroys Jerusalem and the temple and scatters the people.

 

The SACTTERING is not a 1260 year thing, its a 1260 day Event brother. It happens during the 70th week. God says Israel were DEAD so how can a DEAD ENTITY be SCATTERED? 

8 hours ago, abcdef said:

Caesar was revealed as the Antichrist at the 70 AD ish destruction of Jerusalem and the temple.

It was also revealed at that time that Rome was the iron nation of Dan. 2 and the 4th beast of Dan. 7.

Cesar was not the Anti-Christ brother.

Rome was the Fourth Beast but the Mortal Wound hit Rome.

8 hours ago, abcdef said:

What scriptures are about the 70 AD through 1967 time period?

 

The Time of the Gentiles is 70 AD until the Rapture.

God Bless.

Edited May 18, 2022 by Revelation Man

[Omegaman 3.0]

8 hours ago, Starise said:

Your comments seemed very dismissive of prophecy. Knowing you, that probably wasn't the case. 

Yes, well let me see if I can clear that up then, and thanks for the implied vote of semi-confidence, lol 

I am not the least dismissive of prophecy. Of course that is assuming that we are referring to the prophecies of actual prophets, and not of false prophets, which would then be false prophecies or at least misleading or distracting from truth.

(By the way, you also made reference to your understanding or beliefs about what the gift of prophecy might be. I am going to send you a short message  that might help with that (or not), but I won't burden others here with that side track).

The topic here (this thread) relates to concept that Jesus might come in our lifetimes. My focus in the post you referred to, is that I am old, and I do not think that the Bible indicates that Jesus could return at any moment. So in my case, there is a fair chance that He will not return in my lifetime, but I am not willing to suppose that He could not return during the lifetime of some reading this.

I quoted that passage about the scoffers, as to show that Peter thought that time as we think of it is different than what time is to God, i.e. 1000 years is like a day, and vice versa. The passage says (among other things):

3 knowing this first of all, that scoffers will come in the last days with scoffing, following their own sinful desires. 4 They will say, “Where is the promise of his coming? For ever since the fathers fell asleep, all things are continuing as they were from the beginning of creation.”  

and

8 But do not overlook this one fact, beloved, that with the Lord one day is as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day. 9 The Lord is not slow to fulfill his promise as some count slowness, but is patient toward you, not wishing that any should perish, but that all should reach repentance.

Now, that verse 9 informs us that the Lord is not slow (I think the implication there is that He is coming "soon", but in His own time, not in alignment with our preferences or expectations) but that He delays, so that people have the time to repent - He loves those He has created - so we should be patient, as He is patient. As I said, "soon" has been 2000 years so far - I am in no rush.

There is also this there:

10 But the day of the Lord will come like a thief, 

The thief comes unexpectedly and unannounced as to when he is coming, but we need to be prepared, because you just never know! That context there though is, "the Day of the Lord" as in the destruction of the world, something that I don't think many are hoping to see take place. As the OT describes that, it is a day of vengeances and as Amos 5 says of it:

18 Woe to you who desire the day of the LORD!
Why would you have the day of the LORD?
It is darkness, and not light,
19 as if a man fled from a lion,
and a bear met him,
or went into the house and leaned his hand against the wall,
and a serpent bit him.
20 Is not the day of the LORD darkness, and not light,
and gloom with no brightness in it?

My recommendation to all is, to search out these things, know what the day of the Lord is, what it is not, and whether it is one day (like 24 hours) or a day as in a time period, like "in my fathers day", or whether the day of the Lord means more that one thing, more than one time.

My point though was more about how insignificant it is to me whether He comes in my lifetime or not, it is really none of my business. Jesus said in Acts 1:7:

“It is not for you to know times or seasons that the Father has fixed by his own authority."

I am good with that. At the same time though, while we may not be given all the details about when, that does not mean we need to be totally ignorant either.

I am no Bible scholar. I have not been to seminary. I am not an expert on eschatology. I am not the prefect exegete, but neither am I the quite the eisegete that enoob suggests (it's o.k. Steven)! I am just a guy reading the Bible and trying to understand it. 

While God may not have revealed everything we could want to know about His timing, He has giving us a lot of signs to watch for, and indicators of the sequence of things to come. These things are not salvation critical, but I don't believe that God would have provided so much information, if He did not consider it important to know. I is hard to be ready and watchful, if one does not know what one is watching for!

Have I explained myself better now?

[Michael37]

16 minutes ago, Omegaman 3.0 said:

Have I explained myself better now?

Very good, O. I understood you earlier too. The Lord has indeed been coming soon ever since His Ascension, Hallelujah, and we look forward to that Day, but as you and I know, there is a difference between the prophecy of that event and the various vain prognostications of its specific occurrence.