What Would YOU Do?

[Your closest friendnt]

2 hours ago, kwikphilly said:

Perhaps in Eternity ,where there is no boundaries of time these are things far beyond our comprehension..... No past,no present,no future,I can't imagine living in an infinite real....... We might be the only ones existing with the restraints of " time"

Jesus Did Say to the Apostles He Couldn't possibly explain the Heavenly things because they don't even understand this world...... a day is like a thousand to the Lord& a thousand like one day

We are waiting in " time", don't think me crazy but I've often considered in the Heavenly Realm is might already BE.     Glory to God,His Ways are not our ways ❤️

This sounds too poetic..

[Your closest friendnt]

2 hours ago, Alive said:

Amen, Kwik. I cannot prove it exactly by scripture, so I am not dogmatic about it, but when I think of where Paul wrote "to be absent from the body is to be present with the LOrd"--this is what he meant. We sleep and as scripture says, the dead know nothing, at the resurrection, it is as if no time has passed.

 

No, Paul did not say that. Because he did not believe it...Paul did not endorse that belief because he was a Pharisee. And the Jews did not believe that, even the Jews to this day...

They did not speak about Abraham their Patriarch in that way...and about themselves, they did not believe that what happened to King David, and Issac and Jacob and Judah the Patriarch of their tribe, and Aaron...

Edited August 8, 2022 by Your closest friendnt

[kwikphilly]

2 hours ago, Alive said:

Amen, Kwik. I cannot prove it exactly by scripture, so I am not dogmatic about it, but when I think of where Paul wrote "to be absent from the body is to be present with the LOrd"--this is what he meant. We sleep and as scripture says, the dead know nothing, at the resurrection, it is as if no time has passed.

 

Yes Brother ...  EXACTLY

[Littlelambseativy]

Oh but the dead do not sleep…they are aware.. the one true account given by Jesus about Lazarus, tells us that though he was in paradise with Abraham, the rich man wanted Lazarus to go and talk to his brother so that the brother would not end in the same place as he, the rich man. In another account from Revelation, those who are martyred during the tribulation and their souls are under the alter in heaven, cry out asking God how long must they wait for God to avenge their deaths. So, though dead, yet the soul ‘lives’ and knows what is happening…and can speak. Rev.6 - ⁹ When he opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of those who had been slainbecause of the word of God and the testimony they had maintained. ¹⁰ They called out in a loud voice, “How long, Sovereign Lord, holy and true, until you judge the inhabitants of the earth and avenge our blood?” ¹¹ Then each of them was given a white robe, and they were told to wait a little longer, until the full number of their fellow servants, their brothers and sisters,^[e] were killed just as they had been.

Edited August 8, 2022 by Littlelambseativy

[Selah7]

2 hours ago, Alive said:

Amen, Kwik. I cannot prove it exactly by scripture, so I am not dogmatic about it, but when I think of where Paul wrote "to be absent from the body is to be present with the LOrd"--this is what he meant. We sleep and as scripture says, the dead know nothing, at the resurrection, it is as if no time has passed.

 

Well I don’t know if you’re right or if what I’m fixing to say is right, but here’s my understanding of the following verse: 

For the living know that they will die; But the dead know nothing, And they have no more reward, For the memory of them is forgotten.

- Ecclesiastes 9:5

Only the flesh body is mentioned in the book of Ecclesiastes (the man that lives under the sun). When we pass away, our flesh body is finished; it is buried and goes back to dust. … But our spiritual body—our true selves—returns immediately to be with God.  There is no soul sleep. 

Remember your Creator before the silver cord is loosed, Or the golden bowl is broken, Or the pitcher shattered at the fountain, Or the wheel broken at the well. Then the dust will return to the earth as it was, And the spirit will return to God who gave it.

- Ecclesiastes 12:6-7

Selah

[Alive]

14 minutes ago, Selah7 said:

Well I don’t know if you’re right or if what I’m fixing to say is right, but here’s my understanding of the following verse: 

For the living know that they will die; But the dead know nothing, And they have no more reward, For the memory of them is forgotten.

- Ecclesiastes 9:5

Only the flesh body is mentioned in the book of Ecclesiastes (the man that lives under the sun). When we pass away, our flesh body is finished; it is buried and goes back to dust. … But our spiritual body—our true selves—returns immediately to be with God.  There is no soul sleep. 

Remember your Creator before the silver cord is loosed, Or the golden bowl is broken, Or the pitcher shattered at the fountain, Or the wheel broken at the well. Then the dust will return to the earth as it was, And the spirit will return to God who gave it.

- Ecclesiastes 12:6-7

Selah

There is a huge volume of scripture that can be included in such a discussion. Perhaps a new OP?

[Selah7]

1 hour ago, Alive said:

There is a huge volume of scripture that can be included in such a discussion. Perhaps a new OP?

Sure!  Go for it, brother!  

[Alive]

3 minutes ago, Selah7 said:

Sure!  Go for it, brother!  

Perhaps soon…Lord willing.

I do not have answers. What I have in mind will raise more questions

:-)

[Selah7]

20 minutes ago, Alive said:

Perhaps soon…Lord willing.

I do not have answers. What I have in mind will raise more questions

:-)

That sounds good.  The Lord must love to hear His kids asking questions and digging around in His Word for the answers.  :-)

Edited August 8, 2022 by Selah7

[JohnR7]

On 8/7/2022 at 6:02 PM, Littlelambseativy said:

They cannot be in heaven because all sleep waiting the rapture.

Sleep refers to the physical body. They say we do not have a physical body in Heaven only a spiritual body.  The rapture and the resurrection are not the same. There were many people resurrected with Jesus after Calvery.