Fire comes from thier mouths

[Dirt Eaters]

5 hours ago, Jedi4Yahweh said:

Regarding the fire that comes out of the mouth of the two witnesses.  So, I lean toward it being literal speaking when Rev. says fire will come out their mouth and devours their enemies.  Either way, they have power to punish evil doers using the words of their mouth, similar to the prophet Elijah and Moses.  Remember how Elijah the Prophet called down fire from heaven and it killed the prophets of Baal, also had the power to cause sever drought and famine.  Also, Moses had the power to cause many plagues and turn water into blood.  Many believe the two witness in last days will be the Prophet Elijah and Moses, because the same miracles performed by Elijah and Moses are being performed by the two witnesses.  

And if any man will hurt them, fire proceedeth out of their mouth, and devoureth their enemies: and if any man will hurt them, he must in this manner be killed. These have power to shut heaven, that it rain not in the days of their prophecy: and have power over waters to turn them to blood, and to smite the earth with all plagues, as often as they will. - Rev 11:5-6 KJV

 

I think it would be cool to meet them

[R. Hartono]

8 hours ago, Dirt Eaters said:

We know that our God is not into reincarnation.

I think if you say a person has the same spirit ( not talking Holy Spirit, although both will be filled by the Holy Spirit)  but like John the Baptism, Jesus said he was Elijah, and that Elijah would come again. 

I believe John the Baptist and Elijah are two separate people, but cut from the same cloth.

Its how i see the 2 Witnesses (in the likeness of Elijah and Moses)

We know Moses died.

I really believe the fire being spoken of is God's Word.

If it isnt literal fire they shall be killed earlier before 1260 days of their mission. 

@Marathoner

@Selah7

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[Omegaman 3.0]

12 hours ago, Marathoner said:

When the day of Pentecost had come, they were all together in one place. And suddenly a noise like a violent rushing wind came from heaven, and it filled the whole house where they were sitting. And tongues that looked like fire appeared to them, distributing themselves, and a tongue rested on each one of them. And they were all filled with the Holy Spirit and began to speak with different tongues, as the Spirit was giving them the ability to speak out. (Acts 2:1-4 NASB)

That sort of surprised me to see, since I tend to think of the NASB was pretty literal. 

"And tongues that looked like fire appeared to them, distributing themselves, and a tongue rested on each one of them.

That is the more literal. No point to be made, just an observation, might have to watch the NASB for carefully than I thought I needed to!

[Dennis1209]

14 hours ago, Dirt Eaters said:

I really believe the fire being spoken of is God's Word.

I do too. I think it is a metaphor like the following verse:

Revelation 1:16 And he had in his right hand seven stars: and out of his mouth went a sharp twoedged sword: and his countenance was as the sun shineth in his strength. [emphasis added]

Most likely they will be literally consumed with the power granted them with God's word. I used to fish a lot, so opening up a can of worms is nothing new for me. Who do you suspect might be the two witnesses? Our Lord is a legalist, keeping in mind the biblical "legal" definition of what a witness is and how many are required. Did they personally witness the Old Testament, the New Testament period, or both?

Luke 24:4 (KJV) And it came to pass, as they were much perplexed thereabout, behold, two men stood by them in shining garments:

It does not say, but who were these two men, Moses, Elijah, Enoch, or unnamed heavenly angels? Did they personally witness the resurrection of Jesus, and everything He did walking the earth? Why not Peter, James, and John? They witnessed more miracles than the rest of the apostles.

Before that at Jesus's Transfiguration, Moses and Elijah were present. How did Jesus's inner circle of Peter, James, and John know who they were? Could it be: 1 Corinthians 13:12 For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known.

Why were Moses and Elijah selected at the Transfiguration, and what were they discussing? Most probably Jesus's death, burial, and resurrection, but why?

Finally, what about the "two witnesses" being representative of the Old Testament Saints and New Testament Saints [Patriarchs | Church]? 

There is a lot of controversy and argument for any answer.  Got worms, LOL...

[kwikphilly]

Blessings DE

I do believe it's literally " fire"....

Refer to Selahs reply,I agree

With love in Christ,Kwik

 I have no doubt that things will happen that eyes have never seen at that time. ..

[Dirt Eaters]

After reading and thinking about what you are saying. What comes to mind is a correlation between when Jesus is talking to the Pharisees after telling a man that his sins have been forgiven.

" Jesus said to the paralytic, courage my child your sins are forgiven. And some of the scribes said to themselves this man is blaspheming. Knowing what was said in their minds Jesus said, why do you have such Wicked thoughts in your hearts now which of these is easier to say, your sins are forgiven, or to say, get up and walk."

The correlation that I see here is going from the spiritual to the physical. That the Forgiveness of sins is a spiritual thing but the healing is a physical thing

So too when we talk about the word of God coming from the witnesses it is a spiritual thing and then becoming fire being the physical thing

[Dirt Eaters]

Or the fire of God being the spiritual thing and the reality of it being the fire that comes from their mouths as the physical thing

[kwikphilly]

37 minutes ago, Dirt Eaters said:

Or the fire of God being the spiritual thing and the reality of it being the fire that comes from their mouths as the physical thing

Excellent!

Edited September 29, 2022 by kwikphilly

[Starise]

I think Mexican hot sauce must in some way be involved......

Going back to serious mode. I don't believe it's literal, although when I think of literal fire coming for someone's mouth I think of the Leviathan in Job. I really believe God made creatures that could spew fire. Gassy bad breath? I don't know. The stories of dragons spewing fire probably has some grain of truth to it. When circus performers spew fire the fire is not in their mouths. It ignites outside of the mouth. If a creature gets the right mix and a spark.......

In other biblical references we have several metaphorical instances of thing's coming from mouths. The words of the Lord created the heavens and earth. He SPOKE these things into existence.

In looking at the end times, the Lord will eliminate all evil at the end with His mouth.

Isaiah 55:11 “So shall My Word be that goeth forth out of My Mouth: it shall not return unto Me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it”.Sep 30, 2018

Revelation 19:21: “And the remnant were slain with the sword of him that sat upon the horse, which sword proceeded out of his mouth: and all the fowls were filled with their flesh.”

Some of these texts can be odd on the surface, at least for English speaking people. No one has swords coming from their mouths, however the word of the Lord is referred to as a sword, and by His word all things are commanded making what comes from His mouth a very potent thing indeed.

My belief is the fire coming from the prophet's mouths is likely the power given to them to command certain power to destroy those opposed to them.  Words/commands>Fire>power>destruction.

 

 

Edited September 29, 2022 by Starise

[missmuffet]

On 9/28/2022 at 3:14 AM, Dirt Eaters said:

I was ploughing through Revelations last night, when i started reading about the Two Witnesses. When i read, fire will come from thier mouths. I laughed (fire breathing dragons, i thought) 

What is that supposed to mean? Anyone?

The two witnesses in Revelation have miraculous powers given to them by God and no one will be able to stop them. Fire coming from their mouth can be taken literally. The Bible doesn't say who they are.