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Were our spirits with God and holy before we were born ?

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Why can't we remember anything and then become sinful with this birth ? 

 

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Why can't we remember it ?

I have read several things in the past that says that some people do.   I worked with a Mormon Bishop that claimed he could be told a lot about your pre-birth existence.  I was never really comfortable looking into his church beliefs

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I can't find this in the word of God. Oh I heard many stories about this. Some where we made the choice to come here but we would not remember anything. Since so much of this is based on speculation. I believe is when man woman come together that spark of GOD happens and poof! haha here we are. YET God knew us before we were born. 

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Were our spirits with God before we were born ?
 

Yes.

God is omniscient
God is omnipresent

14 hours ago, R. Hartono said:

Why can't we remember it ?

I can't remember anything  pre diaper...

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14 hours ago, other one said:

I have read several things in the past that says that some people do.   I worked with a Mormon Bishop that claimed he could be told a lot about your pre-birth existence.  I was never really comfortable looking into his church beliefs

 

3 hours ago, TheBlade said:

I can't find this in the word of God. Oh I heard many stories about this. Some where we made the choice to come here but we would not remember anything. Since so much of this is based on speculation. I believe is when man woman come together that spark of GOD happens and poof! haha here we are. YET God knew us before we were born. 

 

2 hours ago, Sower said:

Were our spirits with God before we were born ?
 

Yes.

God is omniscient
God is omnipresent

I can't remember anything  pre diaper...

Were we holy before being born ?

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16 hours ago, R. Hartono said:

Why can't we remember anything and then become sinful with this birth ? 

 

Then the dust will return to the earth as it was, And the spirit will return to God who gave it. - Ecc 12:7 

How can your spirit return to God if it was never with God to start with.

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Were we holy before being born ?

Quién sabe.....

Psalm 51:5, NIV: Surely I was sinful at birth, sinful from the time my mother conceived me.

Psalm 51:5, ESV: Behold, I was brought forth in iniquity, and in sin did my mother conceive me.

Psalm 51:5, KJV: Behold, I was shapen in iniquity; and in sin did my mother conceive me.

Psalm 51:5, NASB: Behold, I was brought forth in guilt, And in sin my mother conceived me.

Psalm 51:5, NLT: For I was born a sinner--yes, from the moment my mother conceived me.

Psalm 51:5, CSB: Indeed, I was guilty when I was born; I was sinful when my mother conceived me.
 

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1 hour ago, Jedi4Yahweh said:

Then the dust will return to the earth as it was, And the spirit will return to God who gave it. - Ecc 12:7 

How can your spirit return to God if it was never with God to start with.

It says return to God who "gave it".  Gave it to whom?  The physical body born.  That doesn't mean our spirits were immortal with God from the beginning.

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4 hours ago, Sower said:

Quién sabe.....

Psalm 51:5, NIV: Surely I was sinful at birth, sinful from the time my mother conceived me.

Psalm 51:5, ESV: Behold, I was brought forth in iniquity, and in sin did my mother conceive me.

Psalm 51:5, KJV: Behold, I was shapen in iniquity; and in sin did my mother conceive me.

Psalm 51:5, NASB: Behold, I was brought forth in guilt, And in sin my mother conceived me.

Psalm 51:5, NLT: For I was born a sinner--yes, from the moment my mother conceived me.

Psalm 51:5, CSB: Indeed, I was guilty when I was born; I was sinful when my mother conceived me.
 

 

3 hours ago, Jayne said:

It says return to God who "gave it".  Gave it to whom?  The physical body born.  That doesn't mean our spirits were immortal with God from the beginning.

 

4 hours ago, Jedi4Yahweh said:

Then the dust will return to the earth as it was, And the spirit will return to God who gave it. - Ecc 12:7 

How can your spirit return to God if it was never with God to start with.

If our souls were with God before being birthed as human, were we not holy ?

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2 minutes ago, R. Hartono said:

 

 

If our souls were with God before being birthed as human, were we not holy ?

Are you saying that we were with God  from the beginning, immortal like he is?

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