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"And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with His mighty angels,
in flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God,
and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ"

2nd Thessalonians 1:7-8

What is "the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ"?

Whatever it is, is something to be obeyed, according to Paul.

 

 

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I think these other passages give us help understanding the answer:

"If any man teach otherwise, and consents not to wholesome words,
even to the words of our Lord Jesus Christ,
and to the doctrine that is according to godliness;
he is proud knowing nothing...."
1 Timothy 6:3-4

".......and they were astonished at His doctrine for He taught as one with authority"
Matthew 5:1 through 7:28-29

"Whoever disobeys the Torah [1 John 3:4] and abides not in the doctrine of Christ, has not God.
He that abides in the doctrine of Christ has both the Father and the Son."
2 John 1:9-10

"If any man does not love the Lord Jesus Christ, let that man be anathema, Oh Lord come!"
1 Corinthians 16:22

"He that has my commands and keeps them, he it is that loves me"
John 14:21-24  [Luke 6:27-49, Matt 5:1 - 7:12] 

"And Jesus returned in the power of the Spirit into Galilee,
and there went out a fame of Him through all the region round about.
And He taught in their synagogues, being glorified of all.
And He came to Nazareth... and went into the synagogue on the Sabbath day..."

"And there was delivered to Him the scroll of the prophet Isaiah.
And opened it and found the place where it is written;
The Spirit of the Lord is upon me,
because He has appointed me (Jesus)
to preach the gospel...

And He began to say unto them,
This day is this scripture fulfilled in your ears."
Luke 4:15-21

 


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4 hours ago, Desopixi Seilynam said:

What is "the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ"?

Whatever it is, is something to be obeyed, according to Paul.

Mark 16:15  And he said to them, Go into all the world, and preach the gospel to the whole creation. 
16  Who hath believed and is baptized shall be saved; but who hath disbelieved shall be condemned. 
17  And these signs shall follow them that have believed: in my name shall they cast out demons, speak with tongues; 
18  and in their hands they shall take up serpents, and if they drink aught deadly, it shall in now wise hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover. 
19  So then the Lord Jesus, after he had spoken to them, was taken up into heaven, and sat down at the right hand of God. 
20  And THEY went forth, and preached everywhere, the Lord working with them, and confirming the word by the signs that followed.

Acts 2:37  Now when they heard this, they were pricked in their heart, and said unto Peter and the rest of the apostles, [Men] Brethren, what shall we do? 
38  And Peter said unto them, Repent and be baptized each of you in the name of Jesus Christ unto remission of your sins; and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. 
39  For to you is the promise, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, as many as the Lord our God shall call unto him. 
40  And with many other words he testified, and exhorted them, saying, Be saved from this crooked generation. 
41  They then that received his word were baptized: and in that day were added about three thousand souls.

Acts 10:33  Forthwith therefore I sent unto thee; and THOU hast done well to come. Now therefore WE are all here present before God, to hear all things commanded thee of the Lord. 
10:43  To him [Jesus] all the prophets witness, that through his name every one that believeth unto him receiveth remission of sins.
44  While Peter yet spake these words, the Holy Spirit fell on all that heard the word. 
45  And they of the circumcision that believed were amazed, who came with Peter, because that on the nations also was poured out the gift of the Holy Spirit. 
46  For they heard them speak with tongues, and magnify God. Then answered Peter, 
47  Can anyone forbid the water, that these should not be baptized, who have received the Holy Spirit as well as we? 
48  And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ. Then asked they him to tarry certain days.

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Paul as in all the epistles is writing to the Pentecostal ekklesia of whom all have been baptized in water and in the Holy Spirit with the sign of speaking in tongues - a Spirit-filled church that in addition also enjoyed the 9 gifts of the Holy Spirit, such as healings and miracles.

Galatians 1:2  and all the brethren with me, to the churches of Galatia: 
3  Grace to you and peace from God the Father, and our Lord Jesus Christ, 
4  who gave himself for our sins, that he deliver us from the present evil age, according to the will of God and our Father: 
5  to whom the glory unto the ages of the ages. Amen.
6  I marvel that ye are so quickly removing from him that called you in Christ’s grace unto a different gospel; 
7  which is not another: only there are some that trouble you, and wish to pervert the gospel of the Christ. 
8  But though we, or an angel from heaven, should preach to you a gospel other than what we preached to you, let him be anathema. 
9  As we have said before, so say I now again, If any preacheth to you a gospel other than what ye received, let him be anathema. 
10  For am I now seeking men’s favour, or God’s? or am I seeking to please men? if I were still pleasing men, I should not be Christ’s bondman.

Gal 3:5  Who therefore supplieth you the Spirit, and worketh miracles among you, is it from works of law, or from the hearing of faith?

Edited by Waggles
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56 minutes ago, Waggles said:

Paul as in all the epistles is writing to the Pentecostal ekklesia of whom all have been baptized in water and in the Holy Spirit with the sign of speaking in tongues - a Spirit-filled church that in addition also enjoyed the 9 gifts of the Holy Spirit, such as healings and miracles.

 

Hi Waggles,

Just realized that you are in South OZ. That is where we are too.

Now, I would even go further and say the ekklesia were Apostolic (includes Pentecost), meaning that they received the apostle`s doctrine and were equipped by the 5 fold ministries of the ascended Lord. (Acts 2: 42, Eph. 4: 11 & 12)

Marilyn.


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59 minutes ago, Marilyn C said:

Just realized that you are in South OZ.

The one and only Barossa Valley - home amongst the Lutherans.


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The gospel which Paul preach. That Jesus died for our sins. And was buried and rose on the third day. The gospel is rejected by most of the world. They don't follow Jesus because they don't believe he rose from the dead. 

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8 hours ago, Waggles said:

The one and only Barossa Valley - home amongst the Lutherans.

Oh, not far from us - the Goulburn valley near Shepperton. If ever over our way, please come and visit. If you are I can give you our address & mobile in our PM. 

Marilyn.

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It is the Holy Spirit that determines gifts ...

There are differences of ministries, but the same Lord. And there are diversities of activities, but it is the same God who works all in all. But the manifestation of the Spirit is given to each one for the profit of all: for to one is given the word of wisdom through the Spirit, to another the word of knowledge through the same Spirit, to another faith by the same Spirit, to another gifts of healings by the same Spirit, to another the working of miracles, to another prophecy, to another discerning of spirits, to another different kinds of tongues, to another the interpretation of tongues. But one and the same Spirit works all these things, distributing to each one individually as He wills.

I Corinthians 12:5‭-‬11 NKJV

God bless,

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1 minute ago, George said:

It is the Holy Spirit that determines gifts ...

There are differences of ministries, but the same Lord. And there are diversities of activities, but it is the same God who works all in all. But the manifestation of the Spirit is given to each one for the profit of all: for to one is given the word of wisdom through the Spirit, to another the word of knowledge through the same Spirit, to another faith by the same Spirit, to another gifts of healings by the same Spirit, to another the working of miracles, to another prophecy, to another discerning of spirits, to another different kinds of tongues, to another the interpretation of tongues. But one and the same Spirit works all these things, distributing to each one individually as He wills.

I Corinthians 12:5‭-‬11 NKJV

God bless,

George

Pretty clear, isn’t it?

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Another way to ask the question is; what is the gospel that Jesus preached?

Are we to listen to what Jesus preached?

Do we have to beleive in Jesus Himself? Or just about Jesus?

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Was Paul crucified for you? Were you baptized in the name of Paul?
If anyone does not love the Lord Jesus Christ, let that person be anathema, Oh Lord Come!

1 Corinthians 1:13, 16:22

He that has my commands and keeps them, he it is that loves me. John 14:21-24

 

Modern "teachers" want you to believe that;

"A person is not truly 'in Christ' if they are not believing the true gospel."

But Paul clearly stated;

"they that belong to Christ have crucified the flesh with its passions and lusts"
Galatians 5:24


It's not about believing the correct message, it is about actually being led by the Holy Spirit.
Understanding that you have the Holy Spirit because Christ died and rose again.

Because you must be born again.
That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.

As many as are led by the Spirit of God; they are the children of God.
Romans 8:14

The Galatians were being led to think that circumcision was the ticket to heaven.
That as long as they were circumcisied, that is the token and sign that they will go to heaven.

But Paul said that what avails anything is faith that works by love.
Not faith alone, but faith, that works, by love. Galatians 5:6

And therefore, they that belong to Christ, have crucified the flesh with its passions and lusts.

That is the sound doctrine Paul wants us to not go away from.

A doctrine rejecting works is not sound.

 

We are saved, by grace, through faith, for good works.
Ephesians 2:10

Anytime you find yourself wanting to ignore a verse, you should think twice about that message.

 

The grace of God that brings salvation has appeared unto all,
teaching us that denying ungodliness and worldly lusts,
we should live soberly righteously and godly in this present age.

Titus 2:11-12

That is the grace that brings salvation; the leading of the Holy Spirit,
which we have for free because of the death and resurrection of Christ.

It is the Holy Spirit that personally teaches us.

 

Be not decieved, God is not mocked.
Whatsoever a man soes, that shall he also reap.
He that soes to the flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption.
He that soes to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap
[reap what? a better reward?]
He that soes to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap, everlasting life.

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