What type of music is in the bible, difference the music and know what God said is he's music.

[farouk]

28 minutes ago, FJK said:

For a clearer understanding, which specific verses are you referring to?  And which might indicate it would be wrong to use them?

The best way to start arguments is to criticize someone favorite sort of music..........

[com7fy8]

On 8/9/2023 at 6:18 PM, grumix8 said:

Using harps and trumpets he told Israel to use them.

Have you seen the inside structure of a piano? To me, it looks like a harp. Of course, it is different. But you can play the keys like you play the strings of a harp, or somewhat like it.

I have been told that Jews have trumpets which are made from horns of animals. They are not brass. I suppose the animals could have been sacrificed, which could have been representative of the sacrifice of Jesus. And a trumpet can be for proclaiming and celebrating the victory we have with the LORD. And we have victory because of the sacrifice of Jesus on the cross. So, I see how using a sacrificed animal's horn to celebrate victory might be connected to celebrating the victory we have by means of Jesus sacrificed for us, on the cross.

But what if you use some instrument named in the Bible but it has no meaning for you, about Jesus??

A guitar could symbolize how we have harmony in Christ > a guitar has different strings but they together can produce a harmony.

David could play for Saul and the evil spirit would depart from Saul.

What is the spiritual effect?

Are we feeling good about ourselves, using music in a self-serving, self-congratulating way? Or, are we getting more intimate with Jesus and loving one another and caring about enemies the way Jesus has us be all-loving in sharing with Him?

It can be a trick, maybe, how ones are calling attention to instruments, and arguing about them, instead of first being attentive to Jesus and evaluating ourselves in comparison with Him.

Yes, there can be people, then, who say they don't use instruments, and they can congratulate themselves in comparison to ones who do use instruments.

"For we dare not class ourselves or compare ourselves with those who commend themselves. But they, measuring themselves by themselves, and comparing themselves among themselves, are not wise." (2 Corinthians 10:12)

[Starise]

On 8/10/2023 at 1:45 AM, Stan Murff said:

What about guitar?

I heard there was a type of church that forbids instruments altogether?

The Amish. I recently attended an Amish Chior sing by invitation from an Amish friend. No instruments, but man can they sing.

[Jedi4Yahweh]

On 8/10/2023 at 12:45 AM, Stan Murff said:

What about guitar?

I heard there was a type of church that forbids instruments altogether?

A guitar would be considered a string instrument.

Praise Him with tambourine and dancing; Praise Him with stringed instruments and pipe. - Psa 150:4 

"Yahweh [is here] to save me; So we will play my songs on stringed instruments All [the] days of our life at the house of Yahweh." - Isa 38:20 

[DeighAnn]

On 8/10/2023 at 10:22 AM, Stan Murff said:

OK so it sounds like some churches don't go by what the Bible says and they just do their own thing instead

WE are living in a time of MANY FALSE TEACHERS AND DOCTRINES. Many of those who CALL THEMSELVES sheep today, are actually wolves.  That doesn't make TRUE CHRISTIANS the problem so why put to task the true church to EXPLAIN all the contradictions taking place in the world today, rather than seek them out to further your wisdom and knowledge of what is written?  Even if the 'big mansion' (remember we are ONE BODY with many members so no one getting their own mansion) isn't what is important and 'just getting there' is, why not just walk in the direction that results in rewards?   It's your time, why not make it productive...Why labor and not get paid?  

So, is what the churches of today are doing or not doing your real question?  


You as a Christian had to have HEARD the words of God and BY THEM came to FAITH and THEN been converted, correct?  I only ask because 

there are those that had someone tell them some things and convinced them that if they did and said some things they would be 'eternally saved' and all their sins were paid for forever and/or since 'Jesus did it perfectly' they didn't have to worry about it themselves and/or just believe not worry about judgment because the Holy Spirit works in us and/or any works they would do would just show lack of faith proving they were trying to work for their own salvation by working to keep the gift etc...

 for them the truth is/remains without HEARING THE WORDS OF GOD, one remains without the wisdom and knowledge of GODS TRUTH and without HIS TRUTH there is no coming to faith.  


Anyway, I ask as a Christian what are your beliefs about these verses?  because some of the questions suggest some of these verses may have been missed.

Romans 14

1Him that is weak in the faith receive ye, but not to doubtful disputations.

2For one believeth that he may eat all things: another, who is weak, eateth herbs.

3Let not him that eateth despise him that eateth not; and let not him which eateth not judge him that eateth: for God hath received him.

4Who art thou that judgest another man's servant? to his own master he standeth or falleth. Yea, he shall be holden up: for God is able to make him stand.

5One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind.

6He that regardeth the day, regardeth it unto the Lord; and he that regardeth not the day, to the Lord he doth not regard it. He that eateth, eateth to the Lord, for he giveth God thanks; and he that eateth not, to the Lord he eateth not, and giveth God thanks.

7For none of us liveth to himself, and no man dieth to himself.

8For whether we live, we live unto the Lord; and whether we die, we die unto the Lord: whether we live therefore, or die, we are the Lord's.

9For to this end Christ both died, and rose, and revived, that he might be Lord both of the dead and living.

10But why dost thou judge thy brother? or why dost thou set at nought thy brother? for we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ.

11For it is written, As I live, saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God.

12So then every one of us shall give account of himself to God.

13Let us not therefore judge one another any more: but judge this rather, that no man put a stumblingblock or an occasion to fall in his brother's way.

14I know, and am persuaded by the Lord Jesus, that there is nothing unclean of itself: but to him that esteemeth any thing to be unclean, to him it is unclean.

15But if thy brother be grieved with thy meat, now walkest thou not charitably. Destroy not him with thy meat, for whom Christ died.

16Let not then your good be evil spoken of:

17For the kingdom of God is not meat and drink; but righteousness, and peace, and joy in the Holy Spirit.

18For he that in these things serveth Christ is acceptable to God, and approved of men.

19Let us therefore follow after the things which make for peace, and things wherewith one may edify another.

20For meat destroy not the work of God. All things indeed are pure; but it is evil for that man who eateth with offence.

21It is good neither to eat flesh, nor to drink wine, nor any thing whereby thy brother stumbleth, or is offended, or is made weak.

22Hast thou faith? have it to thyself before God. Happy is he that condemneth not himself in that thing which he alloweth.

23And he that doubteth is damned if he eat, because he eateth not of faith: for whatsoever is not of faith is sin.

and always good to keep in mind



1Judge not, that ye be not judged.

2For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.

3And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?

4Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?

5Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.

6Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.

7Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you

8For every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened.


 

 

[TheBlade]

On 8/9/2023 at 4:18 PM, grumix8 said:

What music is from God and world music is mistaken. What did he told use the music he wants and instruments ?

 

The bible says what he told us since the time of the bible. Using harps and trumpets he told Israel to use them.

 

How to know the violin, saxophone, and piano some are the devil things some playtunes are his.

 

Ask the question what he told us to play and we can use in music ?

I can think of 12 instruments Israel used to worship the lord. I don't know of one instrument that's lol sorry of the devil. Use it to glorify God

[Neighbor]

On 8/10/2023 at 1:45 AM, Stan Murff said:

What about guitar?

I heard there was a type of church that forbids instruments altogether?

Yes there is at least one The Church Of Christ. Their reasoning  is somewhat convoluted in my opinion, but then opinions don't matter do they. That group finds an absence of information within the New Covenant on musical instruments, therefore they conclude  no musical instruments at all may be used.

I always found it funny that  to start the congregation out in worship song the leader would sound a pitch pipe, an instrument. They had many rules regarding singing too,  no solos etc. Seemed silly to me, however they were also some of the most diligent of saints, an extremely caring of one another group.

There is an endless number of "what about this and what about that?"  one may come up with. Those are mere distractions. Some individuals even have a" ministry of distraction", doing a bit of a dance, never surrendering self to Jesus, and never actually reading,  praying about, nor thinking upon, the word of God the Bible.

[backontrack]

On 8/9/2023 at 5:18 PM, grumix8 said:

What music is from God and world music is mistaken. What did he told use the music he wants and instruments ?

 

The bible says what he told us since the time of the bible. Using harps and trumpets he told Israel to use them.

 

How to know the violin, saxophone, and piano some are the devil things some playtunes are his.

 

Ask the question what he told us to play and we can use in music ?

Many say dancing along with the gospel music is wrong yet King David did so. Advancements in technology has come a long way as far as musical instruments are concerned. I think God loves any form of worship so long as its worship to him I love many worship songs. I get kinda bored listening to just the piano and the old time songs not that they are not good but I guess we have evolved over the years.