Rapture: to be or not to be?

[Babbler]

Jesus said he would come on the last day. He is not coming twice. True Christians want to stay to proselytize and lead people to Christ and to save them from the All Consuming Fire. 

[NConly]

Not sure it is all consuming fire. because it does not consume them, they stay in it I believe w/o being consumed.

[Babbler]

The Lord is love. Their duration in the fire depends on the Lords wrath. 

[Revelation Man]

On 8/18/2023 at 10:47 AM, Babbler said:

Jesus said he would come on the last day. He is not coming twice. True Christians want to stay to proselytize and lead people to Christ and to save them from the All Consuming Fire. 

Got to love micro people who never see the big pictures. 

[Shilohsfoal]

22 minutes ago, Revelation Man said:

Got to love micro people who never see the big pictures. 

Sounds like an insult with no love involved.But insults is all your good at,so it's understandable.

 

 

 

Edited August 20, 2023 by Shilohsfoal

[WilliamL]

8 hours ago, Shilohsfoal said:

Sounds like an insult with no love involved.But insults is all your good at,so it's understandable.

 

 

 

Ooh, an insult followed by an insult. Should I go for a trifecta??

Nah. Let's just stick to the subject.

On 8/18/2023 at 9:47 AM, Babbler said:

Jesus said he would come on the last day. ... True Christians want to stay to proselytize and lead people to Christ and to save them from the All Consuming Fire. 

You have a couple scriptures to back that up? Cuz I don't know any.

[Shilohsfoal]

8 hours ago, WilliamL said:

Ooh, an insult followed by an insult. Should I go for a trifecta??

Nah. Let's just stick to the subject.

You have a couple scriptures to back that up? Cuz I don't know any.

I'm just letting him know that's all he does.Someone needs to tell him because I think he does it without even knowing he is  doing it.And its not just to myself,I've seen him insult about everyone he communicates with.

 

True christians would stay and do God's commandments.Heres a verse for you.

 

Ezekiel 3:18

¹⁸ When I say unto the wicked, Thou shalt surely die; and thou givest him not warning, nor speakest to warn the wicked from his wicked way, to save his life; the same wicked man shall die in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at thine hand.

¹⁹ Yet if thou warn the wicked, and he turn not from his wickedness, nor from his wicked way, he shall die in his iniquity; but thou hast delivered thy soul.

 

 

 

A watchman needs to be there in order to do what he is commanded.If he is gone away then he has been made useless.

 

 

 

Edited August 21, 2023 by Shilohsfoal

[Shilohsfoal]

8 hours ago, WilliamL said:

Ooh, an insult followed by an insult. Should I go for a trifecta??

Nah. Let's just stick to the subject.

You have a couple scriptures to back that up? Cuz I don't know any.

 

Now this is my favorite rapture verse.Id say it's the best I've seen.

 

John 17:15

My prayer is not that you take them out of the world but that you protect them from the evil one.
 

[AdHoc]

On 8/21/2023 at 12:34 PM, Shilohsfoal said:

 

Now this is my favorite rapture verse.Id say it's the best I've seen.

 

John 17:15

My prayer is not that you take them out of the world but that you protect them from the evil one.
 

Are you sure you've got the right meaning? After all, the context is about Jesus Himself being taken out of the world (v.13). I doubt if the rapture can be seen here. How about we agree that the best verses on rapture are the one's that mention it - like

 16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: 17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. (1 Th 4:15–17)

 

[Shilohsfoal]

24 minutes ago, AdHoc said:

Are you sure you've got the right meaning? After all, the context is about Jesus Himself being taken out of the world (v.13). I doubt if the rapture can be seen here. How about we agree that the best verses on rapture are the one's that mention it - like

 16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: 17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. (1 Th 4:15–17)

 

No,Jesus is asking his father not to take anyone else out of the world.

There are some who preach that Jesus will come in a top secret mission and take them out of the world for some time period they call the tribulation.Those people who teach such a thing say they are good people who will not see tribulation because they believe in Jesus .Some people believe God would not leave them in the world while the beast is killing the saints of God.

Get it ?

That makes this the ultimate rapture verse.lol

John 17:15

My prayer is not that you take them out of the world but that you protect them from the evil one.