Signs of the times?

[luigi]

20 minutes ago, Last Daze said:

We're in stage-setting mode, the first seal.

The white horse rider of the first seal is given a victor's crown and a bow.  His arrows are the flaming arrows of the evil one and he is given a measure of success in the spreading of those lies.  He will have the appearance of godliness but will deny the power thereof.

His goal is to throw down the harlot and enthrone the man of sin.  That's where we are now, in the process of destroying the harlot (deep state, swamp, apostate Jews).  When the beast and his ten horns deal the death blow to the harlot, it signifies the opening of the second seal.

In my opinion, the four horsemen of the Apocalypse is another description for the four beasts in Daniel 7 and Revelation 13, who comprise all the worlds nations and are the four leading socio economic systems of the world today.

The white horse and its rider who goes about conquering others can be realized as the fourth beast in Daniel 7, with great iron teeth who devours the whole earth, while stamping its enemies underfoot, and treading it down and breaking it in pieces (Daniel 7:7 & 23).

Daniel 7:7 After this I saw in the night visions, and behold a fourth beast, dreadful and terrible, and strong exceedingly; and it had great iron teeth: it devoured and brake in pieces, and stamped the residue with the feet of it: and it was diverse from all the beasts that were before it; and it had ten horns.

Daniel 7:23 Thus he said, The fourth beast shall be the fourth kingdom upon earth, which shall be diverse from all kingdoms, and shall devour the whole earth, and shall tread it down, and break it in pieces.

Edited September 2, 2023 by luigi

[Shilohsfoal]

3 minutes ago, The Light said:

The beginning of sorrows includes nation rising against nation.

I know. And neither nation rising against nation nor the great tribulation has anything to do with Armageddon which takes place during the 7th seal.

 

I realize that. But of course who is the armed forces of the north is the question.

The armed forces of the north is the United States armed forces.

I just don't know under what banner they will return under .Probably NATO next time they go into the middle east.

It will be after Trump is reelected.

[The Light]

13 minutes ago, Shilohsfoal said:

The woman will be fleeing from the Israel government.

She flees when Benjamin netanyahu passes legislation for everyone in Israel to be microchipped.It will be part of his cashless society he's been working on.

 

At a press conference, Israeli prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu suggested that microchipping everyone, beginning with children returning to school and kindergarten as the coronavirus lockdown ends; the chip would sound an alarm whenever anyone gets too close much as a car does. Security experts immediately objected on the grounds that microchipping kids was neither legal nor practical, that the children would be at risk from paedophiles if their data leaked to the internet; and that the real issue is enforcement.

http://privacyinternational.org/examples/3915/israeli-prime-minister-proposes-microchipping-children-enforce-social-distancing#:~:text=At a press conference%2C Israeli,much as a car does.

 

 

Since this time,Netanyahu and his government has passed legislation so that he can make unreasonable laws by hamstringing the supreme court removing its unreasonable clause.

He is also trying to change the way the makeup of the supreme court is made so that he can change the laws in Israel.

 

Daniel 7:25

²⁵ And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.

 

The woman will flee from the Israeli government just before the saints are imprisoned and killed in Israel.

 

revelation 12

¹⁷ And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

 

Again. Way off.

The woman is not fleeing the Israeli government, they are fleeing the coming destruction. That is why they are told to flee immediately and don't go back for belongings.

When the dragon goes after the woman, Israel, they have fled to a place of protection. The dragon then goes after her seed who are the Jews across the earth. Many of them at that time will believe that Jesus is the Messiah. Israel itself will still not believe.

[The Light]

1 minute ago, Shilohsfoal said:

The armed forces of the north is the United States armed forces.

I just don't know under what banner they will return under .Probably NATO next time they go into the middle east.

It will be after Trump is reelected.

Bingo. You nailed it.

[Shilohsfoal]

2 minutes ago, The Light said:

Again. Way off.

The woman is not fleeing the Israeli government, they are fleeing the coming destruction. That is why they are told to flee immediately and don't go back for belongings.

When the dragon goes after the woman, Israel, they have fled to a place of protection. The dragon then goes after her seed who are the Jews across the earth. Many of them at that time will believe that Jesus is the Messiah. Israel itself will still not believe.

lol

Yea,she is fleeing the coming destruction.About 3 1/2 years before it arrives.lol

She can return with a great multitude after a time,times and a half.After the Israeli government is destroyed and everyone who recieved it's mark flee for the mountains to hide in their caves.

 

[Last Daze]

11 minutes ago, luigi said:

In my opinion, the four horsemen of the Apocalypse is another description for the four beasts in Daniel 7 and Revelation 13, who comprise all the worlds nations and are the four leading socio economic systems of the world today.

I'm sure that we all see things differently but what you say below is most important:

On 8/31/2023 at 12:29 PM, luigi said:

The Lord in the Olivet discourse tells us all to look for these signs of the times when the events therein start to appear. As I have been watching, I recognize many of these signs, but it looks like not too many others have been watching.

Mark 13:37 And what I say unto you I say unto all, Watch.

The call to be ready and alert is repeated over and over.  This world is not our home.  When push comes to shove, and it will, how many will forfeit their lives for the sake of Christ?

[R. Hartono]

11 hours ago, The Light said:

I believe this is incorrect brother. The 70th week will not begin when the 1st seal is opened. The 70th week will begin when the prince confirms a covenant with many for one week.

Daniel 11

27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

The same event.

[WilliamL]

10 hours ago, luigi said:

what I asked was what signs do we see today as those the Lord said would precede the data in Daniel 11? In other words: the beginning of sorrows events (Matthew 24:8; Mark 13:8), in the Olivet discourse in Mark 13, Luke 21, and Matthew 24? Hint: some of these beginning of sorrows events also correlate with data found in Revelation 7 and 8.

Matthew 24:7 For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places.

Mark 13:8 For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be earthquakes in divers places, and there shall be famines and troubles: these are the beginnings of sorrows.

The above verses all refer to the time of the Great Trib, which has by no means arrived yet. Wars and famines etc. have gone on throughout history, but there will be only one 'time of trouble such as never was" (Dan. 12:1) = Great Trib.

[Shilohsfoal]

11 hours ago, luigi said:

OK WilliamL, I agree on the data you provided on Daniel 11; but what I asked was what signs do we see today as those the Lord said would precede the data in Daniel 11? In other words: the beginning of sorrows events (Matthew 24:8; Mark 13:8), in the Olivet discourse in Mark 13, Luke 21, and Matthew 24? Hint: some of these beginning of sorrows events also correlate with data found in Revelation 7 and 8.

Matthew 24:7 For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places.

Mark 13:8 For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be earthquakes in divers places, and there shall be famines and troubles: these are the beginnings of sorrows.

Daniel 11 is a very long prophecy that covers several administrations before the son of perdition  even comes to power in verse 21

 

It's kinda hard to see anything precede  that whole chapter.Alot of people focus on the end of the chapter once the son of perdition comes into power but not many people pay attention to the earlier verses of that chapter or even the wars that precede the final.war in that chapter.

It seems the son of perdition who is the final king of the norths  predecessors have a history of invading the middle east in that chapter.Have you noticed that?

 

 

Edited September 3, 2023 by Shilohsfoal

[luigi]

10 hours ago, WilliamL said:

The above verses all refer to the time of the Great Trib, which has by no means arrived yet. Wars and famines etc. have gone on throughout history, but there will be only one 'time of trouble such as never was" (Dan. 12:1) = Great Trib.

Good morning WilliamL,

I agree with you that there will only be one time of trouble such as never was, since man was on the earth;--but it does have to start somewhere, and when it does, it will take some time to get to the point of being the worst of times.

Have you been looking at some of the news around the world lately? China has over the last couple of months experienced several typhoons that have ruined a great portion of their rice and wheat crops. This means that millions or tens of millions of people will soon be starving there.

Have you been looking at some of the news about the horn of Africa lately? Due to severe drought that has been ongoing for several years, the nations in the horn of Africa are in famine conditions worse that they've experienced in over a generation. The famine, however, is so bad in Ethiopia currently, that many Ethiopians have been attempting to migrate towards Saudi Arabia for food. When they arrive at the border, Saudi Arabian troops open fire, indiscriminately killing men, women, and children alike. Furthermore, due to projected continuing and increasing drought conditions in the horn of Africa, the famine will soon be worse than in any prior generation.

So what is the cause for these and other sorrows we are only beginning to see; which is the truth that people are rejecting so that they may continue to take pleasure in unright doings (2 Thessalonians 2:10-12)?

2 Thessalonians 2:10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. 11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: 12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

 

 

Edited September 3, 2023 by luigi