The top reasons why the Anti-Christ can not rule the Whole World

[Last Daze]

15 minutes ago, Revelation Man said:

You will see soon that you are wrong on all things Eschatology. It amuses me to see so many people clearly not called unto Prophecy trying to teach it. 

Yea, yea yea, everything is pride with you because you get destroyed in any debate about Prophecy and you have only one recourse to call names and tag people. We will all answer for our actions my brother, me calling out your wrong assumptions is an order from the Lord, read Ezekiel 3:18. You put forth things you do not understand as if you do, then when you are proved wrong you act like you want to take you ball and go home. That private message sounded just like that, I don't want to reply to you no more [cause I never win the debate].

When that message came in I started to put you on Ignore. If you can't debate without getting all offended something is wrong sir. You will never defeat me in a debate because you start out with WRONG FACTS, you can't even get the Rapture right and I am supposed to listen to you on Eschatology !! 

Why even enter a thread just to stir up strife? I do nit get it, if it bothers you that much to be proven wrong, stay away. I debate on Atheist sites an win conversions over time, they call me every name in the book, goofy, a fool, a Far Right loon. But I turn it on them, I says yes, I am a fool for the gospel, just like Paul stated. Then I show them I can handle their obnoxious rhetoric, and I start showing them how the Universe was created over 13.7 billion years with YOWM meaning a TIME PERIOD, and how God stated that Darkness would be on the Face of the Deep, and tat there was 400 million years of total darkness after the Big Bang which was a burst of energy via God ordering firth creation, and how the first YOWM (Time period) lasted 9.2 billion years, and how our human DNA proves an intelligent being created a CODE in us, and how our bodies are full of trillions of cells and each cell is like a machine, then I break their locked by Satan brains, so they can now hear the Good News. So, while I am reaching the lost many days, many are arguing Eschatology which they are not even called unto. I bet you think this Universe is 6000-10,000 years old also right? 

Don't get frustrated when reproved. If so, just don't reply, or we can ignore each other, it your call, you are the one who can't handle a back and forth not me. Your nae calling will have no effect on me, I was on the streets at 9, doing dope, hustling, at 23 God changed me inside and told me in a vision the Anti-Christ was alive in the world. You do the math. Its all petty to me when another Christian has to use name tags on brothers you really do not even know. Sad.

 

Have a great day!!

[Desopixi Seilynam]

On 9/26/2023 at 1:49 AM, Revelation Man said:

Rev. 17:8-11 is about Apollyon a Demon who God locked in the bottomless pit

"And the ten horns are ten kings, which have not received a kingdom as of yet..."
Revelation 17:12

So therefore they are people, not kingdoms, people who are like kings but not really with a kingdom as of yet. One class of people that fit this description are elected officials. Surely the president is seen as a king, generally in a similar role, but yet not actually a king. One first place to institute such a practice was, Rome. There is the famous story of the ruler who served his term and then went back to plowing his farm. It's likely ten of those kind will become actual kings for a time with the beast.

And so also in verse 10-11 it's talking about kings, people.

"And there are seven kings...... the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth"
Revelation 17:10-11

Yes he is a vessel for a demon, but ultimately a person in the flesh.

I think the beast will be a king indwelt by a demon,
technologically possessed by a demon, giving that demon as much
consciousness as possible, but presented to the world as if he was
brought back to life via 'special' technology.

I think the anti-Christ is the devil himself in the flesh actually, born.....
the opposite of the Messiah. God allows it and the miracles he will do.
I believe it will be very glorious, he will fly around like super man
raining fire down on a seeming anti-Christ.

 

On 9/26/2023 at 1:49 AM, Revelation Man said:

There is only 490 years of punishment against Israel both 2000 plus those 490 years.

So 2,490 years?
What does the Bible say?

"I Daniel understood by the books, the number of years...
how that the Lord would accomplish 70 years in the desolations of Jerusalem...
And I prayed unto the Lord my God.....
Oh Lord let thine anger and thy fury be turned away from thy city Jerusalem...
And the man Gabriel... informed me...
Oh Daniel, I am come to give thee skill in understanding."
Daniel 9:2-23 

Daniel was now 70 years older and in captivity,  [1:21, 2 Chronicles 36]
and therefore according to Jeremiah 25:12,18,26 that Daniel was reading,
he was expecting Jerusalem to be destroyed,
and praying for God to spare Jerusalem.
But Gabriel comes and tells Daniel:

"Seventy captivities are determined upon thy people......."
Daniel 9:24

There will be repeated captivities, seventy of them.

4,900 total years, in about the middle of which, the Messiah
suffers the death penalty but not for Himself.

Daniel 9:24-26 is describing all of time from the captivity that
Daniel was in up to the captivity the beast/anti-Christ will be over.
70 total captivities, 4,900 years worth of time.

"..And the people of the prince that shall come
shall destroy the city and the sanctuary..." Daniel 9:26

The people of the prince that shall come are in Israel now,
slowly destroying it from the inside now, since 1967.
By 2037 ww3 will most likely start in regards to Israel,
another captivity will have ended.
 

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Israel is not back in Israel. 
Ezekiel 37 has not yet happened.
Ezekiel 37:10-12 is the promise of resurrection made of God to the fathers
that Paul speaks about in Acts 26:5-8 [note also Acts 23:6-8]

Israel gets resurrected and placed back into the land.
David will literally be resurrected just as it is written.
"David, whom I will raise up unto you" Jeremiah 30:9  [Psalm 16:10]

"Israels dead men shall rise,
together with my dead body shall they arise"
Isaiah 26:19 [Job 19:26]

"Come from the four winds Oh breath of life
and breath upon these slain that they may live,
and they stood upon their feet an exceedingly great army"
Ezekiel 37:9-10

"Oh my people I will open up your graves
and bring you up out of your graves
and bring you into the land of Israel"
Ezekiel 37:12

"Why should it be thought a thing incredible with you
that God should raise the dead?" Acts 26:8

"The dead in Christ shall rise first,
then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together
with them in the clouds..." 1 Thess. 4:16-17

David and Isaiah are in Christ, Abraham is in Christ,
we share in their faith, the faith of Abraham. The faith of Abraham?
What did Abraham believe?! That God was going to raise Issac from the dead!
Hebrews 11:17-19

Ezekiel 37 through 39 is giving the same prophecy that Revelation 20 expounds on.
And is speaking about actual resurrection, there is no other passage in which God Himself promises resurrection to Israel as a whole, therefore clearly Ezekiel 37:10-12 is what Paul was referring to in Acts 26:5-8, making it clear by scripture that Ezekiel 37:1-15 is about actual resurrection. It is men with no scripture reference that simply assert that 'graves' does not mean 'graves' but I hope you can see that based on scripture we can not accept that assertion.

Ezekiel 37:1-15 = Resurrections
Ezekiel 37:15-24 = Reign of the Messiah
Ezekiel 38 and 39 = Gog and Magog

Revelation 20:4-5 = Resurrections
Revelation 20:5-7 = Reign of the Messiah
Revelation 20:7-10 = Gog and Magog

That is the outline of both passages, they speak of the same thing.

Nothing of Ezekiel 37 has happened yet,
what happened is that another captivity started in 1948-67.

 

False swearers are in Israel, Esau is in Israel, as prophesied.

"Son of man, thy brethren... the men of thy kindred,
all the house of Israel wholly,
are they unto whom the inhabitants of Jerusalem have said:
get you far from the Lord, unto us is this land given in possession"
Ezekiel 11:15

"The Lord of hosts shall defend them;
and they shall devour and subdue
with sling stones"
Zechariah 9:15

"And I hated Esau and laid his mountains and his heritage waste
for the dragons of the wilderness.
Whereas Edom says; We are impoverished, but let us return
and build the desolate places.
Thus says the Lord, they may build, but I will throw down....

I will be a swift witness against... false swearers....
and them that turn aside the stranger from his right"
Malachi 1:3-4, 3:5

"For the day of the Lord is near...
Deliverers shall come up on mount Zion,
to judge the mount of Esau,
and the kingdom shall be the Lords."
Obadiah 1:15,21

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"I will raise up a shepherd in the land,
which shall not visit those that be cut off....
he shall eat the flesh of the fat, and tear their claws in pieces.
Woe to the idol shepherd that leaves the flock!
The sword shall be upon his arm,
and upon his right eye, his arm shall be clean dried up,
and his right eye shall be utterly darkened"
Zechariah 11:16-17  [the beast/anti-Christ]

"And it shall come to pass in that day
that the prophets shall be ashamed every one of his vision...."
Zechariah 13:4

"Awake, O sword, against my shepherd, and against the man
that is my fellow, saith the Lord of hosts;
smite the shepherd and the sheep shall be scattered:
and I will turn my hand upon the little ones"

Zechariah 13:7

"and I will bring a third part through the fire, and will refine them as silver is refined, and will try them as gold is tried"

Zechariah 13:9

"and they that understand among the people shall instruct many,
yet they shall fall by the sword, and by flame, by captivity, and by plunder,
many days. Now, when they fall, they shall be helped with a little help,
but many will join with them because of intrigue.
And some of them of understanding shall fall to try them,
and to purge, and to make them white, even to the time of the end:
because it is yet for a time appointed"

Daniel 11:33-35

 

 

[Desopixi Seilynam]

On 9/25/2023 at 9:28 AM, Shilohsfoal said:

Is that the kingdom of the south that attacks the kingdom of the north at the time of the end or the kingdom of the north who responds to the attack?

I read Daniel 11:40 like this in the king James:

"And at the time of the end shall the king of the south push at him;
and the king of the north shall come against him like a whirlwind....
and he shall enter into the [their] countries and shall overflow and pass over"

This verse is talking about the wounded/healed king,
the beast representing the final world wide kingdom.
Eventually both the king of the south and north come against the beast,
but they get defeated.

We can draw this from the context of verses 36-39,
"he" "him" in verse 40 onward is referring to
that king that exalts himself above very god.

"He shall enter also into the glorious land and many countries
shall be overthrown.... he shall go forth with great fury to destroy,
and utterly to make away many.
And he shall plant the tabernacle of his palace between the seas in
the glorious holy mountain [Israel];
yet he shall come to his end and none shall help him"

Daniel 11:41-45

 

[Shilohsfoal]

35 minutes ago, Desopixi Seilynam said:

I read Daniel 11:40 like this in the king James:

"And at the time of the end shall the king of the south push at him;
and the king of the north shall come against him like a whirlwind....
and he shall enter into the [their] countries and shall overflow and pass over"

This verse is talking about the wounded/healed king,
the beast representing the final world wide kingdom.
Eventually both the king of the south and north come against the beast,
but they get defeated.

We can draw this from the context of verses 36-39,
"he" "him" in verse 40 onward is referring to
that king that exalts himself above very god.

"He shall enter also into the glorious land and many countries
shall be overthrown.... he shall go forth with great fury to destroy,
and utterly to make away many.
And he shall plant the tabernacle of his palace between the seas in
the glorious holy mountain [Israel];
yet he shall come to his end and none shall help him"

Daniel 11:41-45

 

But Daniel 11:40 is at the time of the end.

No more time for a one world government after the end unless your talking about God's one world government.

 

Daniel 11:40

And at the time of the end shall the king of the south push at him: and the king of the north shall come against him like a whirlwind, with chariots, and with horsemen, and with many ships; and he shall enter into the countries, and shall overflow and pass over.

 

time of the end=they have run out of time.

[Desopixi Seilynam]

21 minutes ago, Shilohsfoal said:

But Daniel 11:40 is at the time of the end.

Yes, and going on in 11:41-45 it declares that in the end a king will plant his palace in the glorious holy mountain. Yet he shall come to his end, and none shall help him.

At the time that king is in the glorious holy mountain,
there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was... [Daniel 12:1]

great hailstones from heaven, strange creatures from below the earth,
and other such plagues, and the king causing all to worship him or die.
[Revelation 8-9, 13 - 17]

We see the kings end happen in Revelation 19:20-21.

And resurrections happen; Rev 20:4-5, Daniel 12:2.

[Shilohsfoal]

2 minutes ago, Desopixi Seilynam said:

Yes, and going on in 11:41-45 it declares that in the end a king will plant his palace in the glorious holy mountain. Yet he shall come to his end, and none shall help him.

At the time that king is in the glorious holy mountain,
there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was... [Daniel 12:1]

great hailstones from heaven, strange creatures from below the earth,
and other such plagues, and the king causing all to worship him or die.
[Revelation 8-9, 13 - 17]

We see the kings end happen in Revelation 19:20-21.

And resurrections happen; Rev 20:4-5, Daniel 12:2.

No.when the king of the north dies in Daniel 11:45,the Lord has come.You see the king of the north is the son of perdition who is consumed.

2 the 2

⁸ And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:

 

The king of the north won't be exalting himself anymore after Daniel 11:45.

[Desopixi Seilynam]

23 minutes ago, Shilohsfoal said:

when the king of the north dies in Daniel 11:45,the Lord has come.You see the king of the north is the son of perdition who is consumed.

Yes, if he is the son of perdition, we see his end in Revelation 19:20-21.

And we therefore see the same resurrections spoken of in Daniel 12:2
also in Revelation 20:4-5.

And it says; "and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus,
and for the word of God, and which had not worshiped the beast (that king) ....
But the rest of the dead lived not again.... this is the first resurrection"
 

And so we know the time of tribulation happens with that king
who places his palace in the glorious mountain, the son of perdition.
In Revelation it is clear that the tribulation happens while
the son of perdition is there, he is part of the tribulation itself.

And so given Revelation, we know how to understand Daniel 11:40 through 12:2.

 

Edit:
When that king is being consumed is when
the deliverance happens, we are raised to be an army coming down in the air in the clouds with Christ to do doom upon all flesh.  The marriage supper of the Lamb.

Edited September 29, 2023 by Desopixi Seilynam

[Shilohsfoal]

16 minutes ago, Desopixi Seilynam said:

Yes, if he is the son of perdition, we see his end in Revelation 19:20-21.

And we therefore see the same resurrections spoken of in Daniel 12:2
also in Revelation 20:4-5.

And it says; "and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus,
and for the word of God, and which had not worshiped the beast (that king) ....
But the rest of the dead lived not again.... this is the first resurrection"
 

And so we know the time of tribulation happens with that king
who places his palace in the glorious mountain, the son of perdition.
In Revelation it is clear that the tribulation happens while
the son of perdition is there, he is part of the tribulation itself.

And so given Revelation, we know how to understand Daniel 11:40 through 12:2.

 

Edit:
When that king is being consumed is when
the deliverance happens, we are raised to be an army coming down in the air in the clouds with Christ to do doom upon all flesh.  The marriage supper of the Lamb.

He doesn't place his palace in Jerusalem .He moves the Tabernacle of his palace to Jerusalem.A Tabernacle is a movable building.It is of his palace meaning it's represents his palace 

Tabernacle of his palace=Embassy

[Revelation Man]

2 hours ago, Desopixi Seilynam said:

And the ten horns are ten kings, which have not received a kingdom as of yet..."
Revelation 17:12

So therefore they are people, not kingdoms, people who are like kings but not really with a kingdom as of yet

That is not what it means. Its speaking SPECIFICALLY about the Beast Kingdom, they are after all called 10 Kings (E.U.) who received no kingdom, which is oxymoronic, or not possible. The Kingdom being spoken of in each case is a Beast Kingdom over Israel and the MSR. So, it is true, those 10 (E.U.) are not yet a Beast Kingdom" over Israel and the MSR. Why is it people fail over and over to understand what a Beast Kingdom is in God's eyes? Kingdoms that DOMINATE like a Powerful Animal, over Israel and the MSR. The 10 = the E.U., there indeed will not be a Beast Kingdom in God's equation (7 heads and 10 Horns) until their JOIN the other 6 with them and the 7th Head (A.C.) doing just that by conquering Israel. Notice, they give their power unto the Beast/A.C. and thus they rule ONE HOUR (42 Months) with the Beast. The A.C. doesn't just TAKE OVER Israel for 42 months, he will be a political entity (E.U. President) beforehand after all he is said to rule 42 months right? BUT ALAS, he makes the 7 Year Agreement !! The 42 months is all about being a Beast over Israel.

2 hours ago, Desopixi Seilynam said:

One class of people that fit this description are elected officials. Surely the president is seen as a king, generally in a similar role, but yet not actually a king. One first place to institute such a practice was, Rome. There is the famous story of the ruler who served his term and then went back to plowing his farm. It's likely ten of those kind will become actual kings for a time with the beast.

So, these points now lose their relevance, imho, when its understood properly. 

2 hours ago, Desopixi Seilynam said:

And so also in verse 10-11 it's talking about kings, people.

"And there are seven kings...... the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth"
Revelation 17:10-11

Yes he is a vessel for a demon, but ultimately a person in the flesh.

The Scarlet Colored Beast is a Demon named Apollyon. He is the 8th King of the Seven Earthy Kingdoms, just like Satan, except Satan is over Apollyon so he has CROWNS on the Earth the Rev. 17 Beast has NO CROWNS. 

The 7 Kings who FALL and the 7 Mountains who ARISE are telling us something unique. No Mountain (King) who arose to power as a Beast was also a KING WHO FELL, but the Last Beast both ARISES & FALLS as the Beast, he's the only one to do that, and that is why his rule is only 42 months. 

3 hours ago, Desopixi Seilynam said:

I think the beast will be a king indwelt by a demon,
technologically possessed by a demon, giving that demon as much
consciousness as possible, but presented to the world as if he was
brought back to life via 'special' technology.

I think the anti-Christ is the devil himself in the flesh actually, born.....
the opposite of the Messiah. God allows it and the miracles he will do.
I believe it will be very glorious, he will fly around like super man
raining fire down on a seeming anti-Christ.

He is a man, he will have to answer for his own sins one way or another. 

3 hours ago, Desopixi Seilynam said:

So 2,490 years?
What does the Bible say?

The 2000 years = the Church Age. The 70 weeks are only 70 weeks of Judgment. 483 years ended with Jesus' death, God rent the temple and left Israel abandoned, there are 7 years of penance left on the 70 weeks judgment. 

The rest is copy and paste scriptures, which I know. 

[Scott Free]

1 hour ago, Revelation Man said:

those 10 (E.U.) are not yet a Beast Kingdom

The E.U. has 27 member nations, not 10, with only 9% of global population. The E.U. only has the resources and personnel for a temporary defensive posture against Asia without the U.S..