Trump shot at rally

[Stewardofthemystery]

4 minutes ago, other one said:

Several thousand people were there out in the sun and the building was white...  I'm not buying that as any excuse.

Not to mention those guys are supposed to be out there protecting Trump.  

[WilliamL]

On 7/15/2024 at 8:32 AM, Marathoner said:

I don't deal with conjecture and aspersions of conspiracies that may or may not exist. Perhaps that's what sets me apart from most in this topic. If the goal of an organization with deep pockets was to hire an assassin, then they would hire a professional with the skill and training.

This was a disturbed young man. Your "theory" fails. 

Actually, the goal, as in the JFK assassination, would be to have one or more skilled shooters, and one disturbed patsy on which to assign the blame.

[Sower]

39 minutes ago, Neighbor said:

Hi, I am interested in that one, where did you find that code? I am not aware of it. I tended roof top package HVAC units for years and led building inspectors  up to them as we had them replaced too. Never was there a rigid rung ladder on  the side of any  of  the buildings.

 

 

I found the requirements in my memory, Neighbor, as 30-40- yrs ago had to install  permanent ladders for building/HVAC/roof inspectors, as they were prima donas when it came to lugging their own tools/ladders.

IBC Requirements for roof access ladder Permanent ladders shall be constructed in accordance with Section 306.5 of the International Mechanical Code. Permanent ladders can access certain unoccupied spaces including nonoccupied roofs that are not required to have a stairway.Jan 6, 2021

Search this at your leisure...It's very easy to find codes for your area, wherever.

https://www.lapeyrestair.com/blog/unoccupied-roof-egress-requirements/

 

 

 

OSHA Ladder Cage Requirements Update: Changing fixed Ladders

Sheezzz.  More laws every day. I remember attending OSHA mandatory ladder climbing class if you can believe that, in the 70's.

[other one]

56 minutes ago, Stewardofthemystery said:

Not to mention those guys are supposed to be out there protecting Trump.  

The Secret Service person (can't say for sure who she was) that the roof was sloped, and it would not be safe for someone to be on it, however the building that the Secret Service was on had a slope about three or 4 times as steep.   Total BS (bovine stool) coming from the SS upper management.  Same old, same old when they want to cover their actions.

[Jayne]

30 minutes ago, other one said:

The Secret Service person (can't say for sure who she was) that the roof was sloped, and it would not be safe for someone to be on it, however the building that the Secret Service was on had a slope about three or 4 times as steep.   Total BS (bovine stool) coming from the SS upper management.  Same old, same old when they want to cover their actions.

Director KImberly Cheatle.

She lied a big ol' lie.

[Stewardofthemystery]

38 minutes ago, other one said:

The Secret Service person (can't say for sure who she was) that the roof was sloped, and it would not be safe for someone to be on it, however the building that the Secret Service was on had a slope about three or 4 times as steep.   Total BS (bovine stool) coming from the SS upper management.  Same old, same old when they want to cover their actions.

Well we know the police and the SS is not going to admit guilt.  They will investigate themselves and find no wrong doing.😊

[Stewardofthemystery]

In the news….Report: Sniper in Building Used by Trump Shooter Saw Him with Rangefinder, Looking at Roof, Returing with Backpack

A Beaver County police officer stationed inside the building used by the gunman who attempted to assassinate former President Donald Trump saw the would-be assassin with a rangefinder, scoping out the rooftop, and had warned command center about him, according to a report.

The Beaver Countian reported Monday evening that the police officer, who was serving as one of three counter-snipers stationed inside the building as a member of the Beaver County Emergency Services Unit, saw the man return with a backpack before he scaled the building.

The outlet reported that a security operations plan had placed each of the three counter-snipers inside of the building looking out of windows towards the rally, with none stationed on the roof.
 

The outlet said that due to a lack of manpower, the men did not have spotters assigned to them, as would be standard operating procedure. Spotters assist snipers with finding and assessing targets, measuring windspeed or distance to a target, or helps to assess impact or make adjustments.
 

Multiple local law enforcement sources claimed a lack of manpower and “extremely poor planning” put Trump’s life in danger.

At least one counter-sniper was from the Monaca Borough Police Department, who was providing security at the rally as a member of the Beaver County ESU, which is the equivalent of a SWAT team, the outlet reported.

CBS News reported that after Crooks was first spotted, he came back, sat down and looked at his phone, and at that point, one of the snipers took a photo of him. Crooks then took out a rangefinder and the sniper radioed to the command post, the network reported.

Crooks then disappeared and came back a third time with a backpack. The snipers called in with information that he had a backpack and was walking toward the back of the building, according to the report. Officers reportedly believe Crooks might have used an air conditioning unit to get on top of the roof.

CBS News said by the time other officers came for backup, Crooks had climbed on top of the building and was positioned “above and behind the snipers inside the building.” The network said two other officers who had heard the sniper’s call tried to get on the roof and that state police started rushing to the scene, but by that time, a Secret Service sniper had already killed Crooks.

On Tuesday, Secret Service Director Kimberly Cheatle acknowledged that there was a decision to put the snipers inside the building instead of on top of the building, citing concern that the roof was “sloped.”

Cheatle told ABC News:

That building, in particular, has a sloped roof at its highest point. And, so, you know, there’s a safety factor that would be considered there that we wouldn’t want to put somebody up on a sloped roof…And, so, you know, the decision was made to secure the building from inside.(End quote)

 

 

[other one]

Lord help us all.....

[other one]

I think I'm getting a bit too emotional concerning all this and need to take a break from it for a while.   I think anger is an emotion, isn't it.

[shanee]

17 hours ago, Stewardofthemystery said:

AP FACT CHECK

Online posts falsely claims sharpshooter was told not to fire on suspect in Trump shooting

A spokesman for the Secret Service said snipers are trained and instructed to act whenever they see a threat, and do not await instructions before taking a shot to neutralize a suspect. He said he couldn’t discuss the specifics of agency communication or the details of the ongoing investigation but said the post was false.(end quote)

Might want to be careful with those fact checks that's how they were fulling people on Facebook and stuff like that.

Not saying yours isn't a good one just saying.

Oh yeah and Google's in on it too

Edited July 17, 2024 by shanee
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