Time Of The Signs, Biblical Politics, Prophesy on Display

[Neighbor]

Okay all, from all over,  where do you think the signs are pointing today regarding  the prophesy of the Bible as a whole, the reveal of Jesus?

Say what?

To my way of thinking there is a dramatic and soon to be very traumatic shift in world power structure with literally  internationally powerful  "robber Barrons" much like those of the 1800's, evidently uniting  within the USA today.

The newly forming USA "DOGE" being a "type" of such an effort by the  powers on this earth under rule of the prince of the air.

My own mind is awash in the thought of how rapidly the gang  warfare of the "oligarchy" is reorganizing, much  like an old Mafia movie might depict turf wars and gangland meetings happening.

The USA is not seen in prophecy far as  most that study such things can find. Yet right now there is sooo much rapidly coming together that lives and emits breath of a super powerful few that run  much of what is present in this world today. And it is happening  right at the USA!

Land, industry, creativity, food supply,  and water rights are all being rolled up into a tightly owned  and controlled unit, much like the few or two hands full  the robber barons did in the 1800's.

Is this just another era, or is this a real advance deep into the end of end times?

How does the power politics of a few point to the soon wiping out of perhaps a third of the world population and then a third yet again, if it does at all?

Are there simply types of antichrists present as has always been among us, or are we looking at The Antichrist today?

 

[In the Clouds]

We do see multi-millionaires and billionaires aligning with the soon to be Trump administration.  We should take note and follow the plans and influences of these high-powered movers and shakers.

The robber barons of the Gilded Age (Industrial Revolution) still impact today's politics, government, finances, and social interactions.  Some of the most influential industrialists were:  Andrew Carnegie, Cornelius Vanderbilt, JP Morgan (think Federal Reserve), Henry Ford, John D Rockefeller,... and more.  The Industrial Revolution was instrumental in building the US and is a very interesting study.  Along with the gains of modernization came the brutalities of power hungry robber barons.

There's going to be a mighty shake-up in who the kings of the hill are.  And, so the story goes.  There's nothing new under the sun.  Keep your eyes open!

 

[AdHoc]

33 minutes ago, Neighbor said:

Okay all, from all over,  where do you think the signs are pointing today regarding  the prophesy of the Bible as a whole, the reveal of Jesus?

Say what?

To my way of thinking there is a dramatic and soon to be very traumatic shift in world power structure with literally  internationally powerful  "robber Barrons" much like those of the 1800's, evidently uniting  within the USA today.

The newly forming USA "DOGE" being a "type" of such an effort by the  powers on this earth under rule of the prince of the air.

My own mind is awash in the thought of how rapidly the gang  warfare of the "oligarchy" is reorganizing, much  like an old Mafia movie might depict turf wars and gangland meetings happening.

The USA is not seen in prophecy far as  most that study such things can find. Yet right now there is sooo much rapidly coming together that lives and emits breath of a super powerful few that run  much of what is present in this world today. And it is happening  right at the USA!

Land, industry, creativity, food supply,  and water rights are all being rolled up into a tightly owned  and controlled unit, much like the few or two hands full  the robber barons did in the 1800's.

Is this just another era, or is this a real advance deep into the end of end times?

How does the power politics of a few point to the soon wiping out of perhaps a third of the world population and then a third yet again, if it does at all?

Are there simply types of antichrists present as has always been among us, or are we looking at The Antichrist today?

 

What complicates the matter is that the Church was not revealed to the Old Testament prophets. Thus, all Old Testament prophecy involves either Israel or the Nations. And then, the Church have to live by FAITH, so precise prophecy is rare. I do not mean that prophecy will not be fulfilled accurately and precisely, but that the prophecy is more designed to keep the servant alert than giving him exact dates. Take Matthew 24:1-31 for example. The astute student of the Word will immediately notice that the context is Jewish throughout. It starts with the Temple and covers false Christs and false prophets (a Jewish problem), those in Jerusalem, Judea and the surrounding mountains, Daniel's people and Daniel, the Sabbath and the Law and ends with Christ bursting through the clouds like lightning "after the tribulation of those days" over Mount Olives and commanding His angels to gather those scattered to the four winds - Israel.

But the same astute student of scripture does not want to see these things. He wants to avoid the days of the Tribulation and to stand before the son of man IN the clouds after rapture (Lk.21:35-36). But on reading Luke 21:35-36 he finds out that this is only possible if he is "counted worthy ...". That implies two things:
1. There will be equally disposed servants who are NOT counted worthy
2. What means "counted worthy"?

[Ray12614]

34 minutes ago, AdHoc said:

2. What means "counted worthy"?

Possibly being an member or this Worthy forum helps ??? 

(No I am not serious) . .  

[Sower]

46 minutes ago, AdHoc said:

1. There will be equally equally disposed servants who are NOT counted worthy

2. What means "counted worthy"?

Beyond the minimum.

"So in the present case I tell you, keep away from these men and let them alone, for if this plan or this undertaking is of man, it will fail; but if it is of God, you will not be able to overthrow them. You might even be found opposing God!” So they took his advice, and when they had called in the apostles, they beat them and charged them not to speak in the name of Jesus, and let them go.

Then they left the presence of the council, rejoicing that they were counted worthy to suffer dishonor for the name"

And every day, in the temple and from house to house, they did not cease teaching and preaching that the Christ is Jesus"
                                                Acts 5:38-40

So you also, when you have done all that you were commanded, say,
‘We are unworthy servants; we have only done what was our duty.’” Luke 17,10

From duty to being spirit led, walking in Christ, doing all things. Beyond..
To whom much is given, much is required.
 

[WilliamL]

5 hours ago, Neighbor said:

The USA is not seen in prophecy far as  most that study such things can find.

Only because they refuse to accept the patrimony of the nation of Joseph, which plays a prominent role in the OT prophecies.

 

 

[Neighbor]

8 hours ago, In the Clouds said:

Keep your eyes open!

And looking up.

I had thought we might have yet another few millennium left, that this time is just another in many, but wow there's a whole lot of shak'n going on.

Makes me rethink and revisit stuff I haven't looked at seriously in several years. The whole earth seems to be rattling. The nations are realigning as are the power brokers on earth today.  

Plus there are more individual candidates for antichrist, The Antichrist, to consider than one can shake a stick at, presuming a literal individual to be on earth already as that deceiver, the man of peace with a covenant to be made with Israel.

Could be soon and very soon we will go to meet the Lord, soon and very soon. It's a  time to be working in the fields for sure. May many be turning about to their repentance from sin against God to worship of Jesus as Lord God and their personal savior. May many testify boldly that  many more hear with urgent understanding under the impetus of the Holy Spirit that never heard before.

 

[Marilyn C]

10 hours ago, Neighbor said:

Okay all, from all over,  where do you think the signs are pointing today regarding  the prophesy of the Bible as a whole, the reveal of Jesus?

Say what?

To my way of thinking there is a dramatic and soon to be very traumatic shift in world power structure with literally  internationally powerful  "robber Barrons" much like those of the 1800's, evidently uniting  within the USA today.

The newly forming USA "DOGE" being a "type" of such an effort by the  powers on this earth under rule of the prince of the air.

My own mind is awash in the thought of how rapidly the gang  warfare of the "oligarchy" is reorganizing, much  like an old Mafia movie might depict turf wars and gangland meetings happening.

The USA is not seen in prophecy far as  most that study such things can find. Yet right now there is sooo much rapidly coming together that lives and emits breath of a super powerful few that run  much of what is present in this world today. And it is happening  right at the USA!

Land, industry, creativity, food supply,  and water rights are all being rolled up into a tightly owned  and controlled unit, much like the few or two hands full  the robber barons did in the 1800's.

Is this just another era, or is this a real advance deep into the end of end times?

How does the power politics of a few point to the soon wiping out of perhaps a third of the world population and then a third yet again, if it does at all?

Are there simply types of antichrists present as has always been among us, or are we looking at The Antichrist today?

 

Hi Neighbor,

I believe you are spot on. Also, I was taught where America is in God`s word. God shows beginnings. And we see 4 beastly kingdoms in Daniel 7. These are easily recognizable today. They each came up after a war. 

Lion with eagle wings that were broken off. These emblems are recognizable as the British Empire (now Commonwealth) and America which came from Britain. These two great powers still work together today.

The Bear. Easily seen as the Soviet Union after WW 1 which eventually became Russia and the CIS. (Commonwealth of Independent states) They have killed millions over the years.

The Leopard. This emblem was used by Charlemagne. It represents the European Union which rose to power after WW 2. It had 4 heads/leaders to start with and now 27 nations involved. Their `free trade` policy has been accepted by much of the world which has led to great multi-nationals controlling much trade. This is leading to great inflation across the world. 

The terrifying kingdom. This has yet to arise but has nearly 2 billion people across the nations that will come together under the Islamic rule. This horrific great power will arise after WW 3.

So, now we see WW 3 on the horizon. God bringing Russia and Iran and many others down to the mountains of Israel. No one comes to their aid, however, Britain and America together ask the leader why are they coming down.

Then when the Russian Federation attack Israel in the Golan heights, (the world says that area belongs to Syria) God will step in and annihilate 4/5ths of the great army. Then there is a power vacuum in the Middle East - no Russian army or Iran`s army. Then it is that the peace maker from Iraq makes a peace treaty with Israel. The world is amazed and cries `Peace and Safety` at last. However, God`s judgment upon a rebellious world starts - the trib.

It is then that East and West come together (with lies around the table) to begin to form a Global Government. The great wealth from both East and West will be unimaginable. The elites will work together to consolidate the wealth and power into a few hands. 

 

 

 

 

[Neighbor]

18 hours ago, WilliamL said:

Only because they refuse to accept the patrimony of the nation of Joseph, which plays a prominent role in the OT prophecies.

 

 

Might you expand on that a bit?

[WilliamL]

On 12/6/2024 at 6:35 AM, Neighbor said:

Might you expand on that a bit?

I've expanded on it a whole lot:

87. The Prophetic Heritage and Destiny of Joseph; Part 1    Beginning of a four-part series about the nation of Joseph's place and role in the End Times.    https://www.worthychristianforums.com/blogs/entry/2927-the-prophetic-heritage-and-destiny-of-joseph-part-1/

88.  Joseph, Part 2: The Heritage of Joseph    
https://www.worthychristianforums.com/blogs/entry/2928-joseph-part-2-the-heritage-of-joseph/

89. Joseph, Part 3: A Patriarchal Prophecy of Josephʼs Future    https://www.worthychristianforums.com/blogs/entry/2929-joseph-part-3-a-patriarchal-prophecy-of-josephʼs-future/

90. Joseph, Part 4: “The Fullness of the Nations”    https://www.worthychristianforums.com/blogs/entry/2936-joseph-part-4-“the-fullness-of-the-nations”/

The above articles provide the basics. The following articles prove the prophetic timing:

79. The Prophesied Restorations of Israel and Judah After 7 Times

Introduction to a six-part series of articles that show how national sovereignty was restored to the descendants of both the Kingdoms of Israel and Judah after the Lord’s prophesied period of 7 times [2520 360-day years] for their dispersions was fulfilled.

https://www.worthychristianforums.com/blogs/entry/2847-the-prophesied-restorations-of-israel-and-judah-after-7-times/

80. The Prophesied Restoration of Israel After 7 Times, Part 1: 1578 – 1744 AD

https://www.worthychristianforums.com/blogs/entry/2848-the-prophesied-restoration-of-israel-after-7-times-part-1-1578-–-1744-ad/

81. The Prophesied Restoration of Israel After 7 Times, Part 2: 1754 – 1783 AD

https://www.worthychristianforums.com/blogs/entry/2849-the-prophesied-restoration-of-israel-after-7-times-part-2-1754-–-1783-ad/

Here is the text of "Joseph, Part 4: “The Fullness of the Nations” --

Joseph, Part 4: “The Fullness of the Nations”

Genesis 48:19 …but truly his [Manasseh’s] younger brother [Ephraim] shall be greater than he, and his seed shall become the fullness of the nations.

Romans 11:25 …blindness in part has happened to Israel UNTIL the fullness/plērōma of the nations shall have come in. 26 And AFTER that all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob: 27 For this is my covenant with them, when I shall take away their sins.

Ephesians 1:7 In Him [Jesus] we have redemption through His blood… 10 UNTO a dispensation of the fullness/plērōma of the times, to head up all things in Christ, both which are in heaven, and which are on earth, [even] in him.

Luke 21:24 And they [the Jews] shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations. And Jerusalem shall be being trodden down by the nations UNTIL the times of the nations be fulfilled/plērōthōsin.

The patriarchal prophecy by Jacob, when he made the sign of the cross with his hands upon the heads of Joseph’s sons Ephraim and Manasseh (Gen. 48:13ff.) – the first instance in the Bible of a laying on of hands – has a much greater significance for our times than most Christians and Jews realize. In part, because Jacob made Joseph “the Nazir/Consecrated One of his brothers” (Gen. 49:26), which consecration passed on through his sons. Christianity, the religion of the cross, was established in Britain by the mid-30’s A.D.

Paul prophesied in Romans 11:25 that when Jacob’s prophecy of “the fullness of the nations” reaches its fulfillment, then, essentially, the End of the Christian Age will come. For God will not begin to restore fallen Israelites to salvation until “AFTER” that time. That time being when the Gospel has been preached to “all the nations” of the earth (Matt. 28:19), primarily through the efforts of Anglo-American evangelists.

Matthew 24:24 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations; and THEN the end will come.

This worldwide evangelism only became possible through the international law-keeping established by the Pax Britannica and the Pax Americana. AFTER this prophesied era of the evangelization of the nations has been fulfilled, Jesus shall return in the clouds of heaven: then “every eye will see Him,” “all the tribes of the earth will wail,” and the Jews will “mourn for Him,” understanding that He is their Messiah “whom they pierced.” Rev. 1:7; Matt. 24:30; Zech. 12:10

So we should look around the world, and judge whether or not this part of Joseph’s destiny has been fulfilled, or is near to it. Is not the Anglo-American hegemony and its Christianity increasingly being resisted and replaced by an international hegemony of an anti-American and anti-Christian New World Order? If so, “the times of the nations” is near to its fulness.