what I learned about oneness pentecostalism

[Luther]

On 2/15/2025 at 2:16 PM, A Freeman said:

Do people ever think (ask God for His Wisdom) about a verse prior to using it as alleged proof for some nonsensical doctrine?

Isaiah was a PROPHET of God.

God's Prophets PROPHESY things that come true, sometimes hundreds or even thousands of years in advance.

This particular PROPHECY states the following:

Isaiah 9:6 (KJV)  For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

Please note well it does NOT say that the Child will be those things, or even that any of these titles will be his name, or that all of these titles are necessarily true/representative of him. It only says that people will call him these things, which they have done, in spades (and often in error).

Well how bout this statement (which you won't find in the Bible but is true regardless):

Ye aren't born again if you do not embrace the Triune God of the Bible*

*Allowance being made, of course, if God has recently saved you and it hasn't been made manifest to your soul yet. 

The Triune God is the basis of our faith. It literally separates Christianity from false religions like seventh day adventists and jehovah's witnesses.  

[Your closest friendnt]

23 minutes ago, Luther said:

Well how bout this statement (which you won't find in the Bible but is true regardless):

Ye aren't born again if you do not embrace the Triune God of the Bible*

*Allowance being made, of course, if God has recently saved you and it hasn't been made manifest to your soul yet. 

The Triune God is the basis of our faith. It literally separates Christianity from false religions like seventh day adventists and jehovah's witnesses.  

This is why we have God's grace. In the Old Testament God gave them a Comandment and He asked Moses to do something that was quite challenging to the Israelites and even to Moses. But thanks to the Lord who had made an exception with Moses and He talked to Moses Face to Face. In this way The Lord God Almighty did not leave any room for confusion and questions in Moses mind when the Lord asked him to make the replica of a Fiery Serpent on a pole and raised it up for all those who were beaten by the fiery Serpents and were in the bring to die to look and live. 

At that time the Israelites and some of the their leaders even Aaron would have freak out. They would have think "What Moses is doing? He is going to kill all of us" as there was a very strick prohibition not to worship other Gods. 

Moses said to people that the Lord will not be the one to heal you but He has appointed the Fiery Serpent to heal you from the deadly bites of the fiery serpents. 

What happened to that Fiery Serpent on the pole? They put him in the Temple and they offered incense for to him and worship him along with God.

Then one day the Lord said to Moses: "pound the Bronze Serpent to dust and dilute it in water and make the people drink it. AMEN

[D. Adrien]

On 3/4/2025 at 9:27 PM, tatwo said:

Greetings @D. Adrien...

Well...dare I say that it was not flesh and blood that revealed that you you brother D. Adrian?

He is known as Father...and to be a Father you need a family. The eternal God is revealed in a spiritual man known as Christ...He is here...and He will be here to at least do His part in the cleanup and judgment of the dragon, the beast, the harlot, the lawless one so we need to grow up into the full measure of Christ...which the grace of God is more that sufficient to accomplish.

Tatwo...:) 

My thought was instead of the word Trinity, the proper descriptor is, Family. Heard this many years ago and made sense to me.

[other one]

2 hours ago, D. Adrien said:

My thought was instead of the word Trinity, the proper descriptor is, Family. Heard this many years ago and made sense to me.

It shouldn't matter what you call it as long as we agree there are three of them and they are in essence one.  Call them a family or trinity or three or whatever, it's what they are that matters.     A rose is a rose, no matter what you call it.

[missmuffet]

This is what the Oneness Pentecostal's believe. It isn't biblical.

https://www.gotquestions.org/oneness-Jesus-only.html

[Indentured Servant]

On 1/4/2025 at 6:54 AM, Daniel Marsh said:

oneness pentecostalism teaches that Jesus was only on God's mind and as such no pre-existence. Logically he is not God. However, they claim he is God the Father. They say, the fullness of the godhead being the Father is in him. When we are born again, we are indwelt with the Holy Spirit., but we are not God. Jesus having the Father in him does not make him the Father too. They are illogical.

Aside from denominational misconception, God, by His own declaration, is "One."

"The LORD is one..."

"The Father and I are One." While controversial among many sects of Christianity, it says what it says... 

The Holy Spirit is the 'extension' of God that comes to earth, but never less-than-God.

Jesus was conceived by that same Holy (set apart) Spirit and was indwelled by the Spirit. No other in history can make this claim. This means He was the first human who possessed the genetic connection to the Father, and the first to be sustained by the Holy Spirit.

 

Edited March 23 by Indentured Servant

[Daniel Marsh]

time for  nap