ai and revisionist history

[ayin jade]

Saw this in the news today....

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Meanwhile, Grok has started to dabble in Holocaust denial, saying that it is “skeptical” of the consensus among historians that six million Jews were murdered in the Holocaust and that “numbers can be manipulated.” It has also said that there is notable “academic debate” about whether that many Jews died as a result of the Nazi genocide — but that is not true. Whether these alarming comments were the result of the same internal programming change is unclear.

 

How many folks will fall for this with ai posting false answers like this?

 

[Michael37]

3 hours ago, ayin jade said:

Saw this in the news today....

 

How many folks will fall for this with ai posting false answers like this?

 

I've found AI very unreliable in some things. Working with the calendar seems to bamboozle it.

[WilliamL]

4 hours ago, ayin jade said:

Saw this in the news today....

"I read the news today; Oh boy...  

I love to turn you on..."

[other one]

An interesting article, so I just went to Grok and asked:::

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OO asked...How many Jews did Germany kill during WWII

 

Grok replied...

The Nazi regime systematically murdered approximately 6 million Jews during World War II, primarily through the Holocaust. This figure is based on extensive historical evidence, including pre-war and post-war population data, deportation records, and execution reports. The genocide targeted Jewish populations across Europe, with major death camps like Auschwitz-Birkenau, Treblinka, and Sobibor responsible for millions of deaths through mass shootings, forced labor, starvation, and gas chambers. The exact number is difficult to pinpoint due to incomplete records and the scale of the atrocities, but 6 million is the widely accepted estimate among historians.

 

[ayin jade]

5 hours ago, Michael37 said:

I've found AI very unreliable in some things. Working with the calendar seems to bamboozle it.

I read today that ai has issues with time and calendars.

[ayin jade]

4 hours ago, WilliamL said:

"I read the news today; Oh boy...  

I love to turn you on..."

I know how bad the news can be with the truth lies and spin, but I also read multiple sources when I read the news and am watchful about their biases and at times outright lies. I dont think it is good to completely ignore the news.

[D. Adrien]

3 hours ago, ayin jade said:

I know how bad the news can be with the truth lies and spin, but I also read multiple sources when I read the news and am watchful about their biases and at times outright lies. I dont think it is good to completely ignore the news.

There is propaganda on both ends of the spectrum. Especially, when it (news), boasts of battle results, be they on a battle field or in politics.

[Alive]

AI is not smart…it simply spits out what it is fed and it is fed by the internet, which contains all manner of junk mixed with accurate information. And the algorithm can be altered.

[other one]

1 hour ago, Alive said:

AI is not smart…it simply spits out what it is fed and it is fed by the internet, which contains all manner of junk mixed with accurate information. And the algorithm can be altered.

My nephew helped write the self learning section of some AI and from talking to him, I would not agree completely.  The toys we have access to on the internet is somewhat so, but the large super computers that will actually run the general AI is pretty much full of most libraries that have been digitized.  He started with the Library of Congress.    The goal is to have access to all knowledge that mankind has known.   And that is dangerous.

[WilliamL]

On 5/19/2025 at 5:52 AM, Alive said:

AI is not smart…it simply spits out what it is fed and it is fed by the internet, which contains all manner of junk mixed with accurate information. And the algorithm can be altered.

Back in the past, there was an old acronym for this: GIGO -- "garbage in, garbage out."

On 5/19/2025 at 7:39 AM, other one said:

the large super computers that will actually run the general AI is pretty much full of most libraries that have been digitized.  He started with the Library of Congress.  The goal is to have access to all knowledge that mankind has known.   And that is dangerous.

Thing is, all of the world's libraries are full of books having both truth and errors, and AI has no way to discern the one from the other. Other, that is, than using of the tactic of "preponderance of evidence," which, too much of the time, leads one to a false conclusion.