Time of the Gentiles

[JohnD]

The signs of the times indicate that the era of God's focus on bringing Gentile believers into the Kingdom are drawing to a close and the emphasis will return again to the Jewish people.

That the groundbreaking for the 144,000 Jewish evangelists could be happening before our very eyes as the world heads into improbable times of peace or calamity...

This is a thread open to opinion, inspiration, hopes, or even dissent... 

What do you think?  

[D. Adrien]

I need a specific sign post to determine exactly where in the flow of prophecy we are all presently standing. Another problem I see is not knowing how quickly events may happen;

a quick slide of events in time or a slow steady plodding?

[Marilyn C]

10 hours ago, D. Adrien said:

I need a specific sign post to determine exactly where in the flow of prophecy we are all presently standing. Another problem I see is not knowing how quickly events may happen;

a quick slide of events in time or a slow steady plodding?

Hi Adrian,

That is a good point. Now I believe God`s first Appointed time is the maturity of the Body of Christ.

`...till we all come to the unity of the faith and the knowledge of the Son of God, to a perfect (mature) man, to the measure of the stature of the fullness of Christ..` (Eph. 4: 13)

And that maturity means that together over all the centuries we have believed (some or all) of the following - Salvation, Baptism, indwelling, gifts, ministries and eternal purposes. 

The timing of that will be just before we see the great northern army coming over Israel`s mountains. (Joel 1 & 2) That is the Day of the LORD God Almighty in judgment (beginning period of time not the specific Day of the Lord. Gk. has both meanings) The Body of Christ is not in that time. (1 Thess.5: 2 - 5)

And in Hebrews (10: 25) we note that we will SEE the Day approaching.

 

[lrs68]

Both Paul and John mention this, and even though everything appears to come down to a specific year, months, day, hour, minute, second.   I still look at it as how many Gentiles is the number God picked that when the last Gentile converts that era ends?   

 

I wonder if God decreed within Himself that the moment this many million or billion Gentiles accept Yeshua as their God, Lord, and Savior the Time of the Gentiles will be fulfilled?

 

I also wonder since God knew when it would happen did God decree this is when the Great Tribulation begins or will be during this portion of the Great Tribulation?

 

Ultimately speaking here, I wonder what that number, that last Gentile conversion will add up to?  How many Gentiles [not the Old Testament Proselytized] [but the New Covenant Gentiles] will that be?

[tatwo]

On 5/31/2025 at 6:46 AM, D. Adrien said:

I need a specific sign post to determine exactly where in the flow of prophecy we are all presently standing.

Greetings Bro...

There are definitely "specific sign posts" as you call them...but they are spiritual and thereby invisible. The outward appearing of the invisible realm of darkness...is present in abundance...few are recognizing them. This is because the dragon is so skilled in his ability to deceive the mind of mans soul...people all around me and on the Worthy forum are definitely not recognizing the "sign posts" for what they are.

So your ask might be difficult to answer...buy that I mean...if I were to tell you what I see...I believe that "you - D. Adrian" may be able to understand...yet the scoffers will come. They are the ones who flock to truth to dispel it...much like the Judaizers followed around behind Paul feverishly dispelling Paul's revelation of the Lord Yahshua Christ.

I have followed what I call the "attack on humanity" looking for the ways the devil seduces the human soul via deception. My two primary research efforts are..."food and finance" simply because they are generally the most impactful upon humanity.

The entire food production capabilities have been drastically and systematically reduced in the U.S. over the last 10 years with most of it in the 5-6 years. This is something I have followed closely for nearly 20 years. I have been in the food production effort for all those years...albeit via affiliations with Local Community Supported Agriculture and our modest 1 acre garden. There is and will be food insecurity in the U.S. increasingly from this point forward.

This will be significantly skewed and hidden for a time yet...primarily due to a propagandized media structure...the gullibility of humanity and the increase of "lab grown food" so to speak.. Along with this comes the ever "ultra processed food like substance" and the new Genetically Modified Organism style of food. These are more likely to administer a pharmaceutical payload verses nutrition...seriously.

This definitely has connections to the "Black horse and horseman of scarcity and famine"...which already has shown itself to use "food as a weapon" which is causing increased level of sickness due to a lack of nutrition leading to starvation and death. That's where I can see the work of the pale horse and it's riders taking place.

This will likely mean nothing to most...so...I will stop here for now.

Tatwo...:)

  

[tatwo]

On 5/31/2025 at 6:46 AM, D. Adrien said:

Another problem I see is not knowing how quickly events may happen;

a quick slide of events in time or a slow steady plodding?

May I explain it like this...?

In the day time...when one can see the sky above...you can see the storm clouds forming in the distance and moving towards you. You are then granted the time and space to prepare as necessary for its arrival...what ever that might be for you. Then exactly as expected it gets to your location...you are prepared and the storm does it's thing while you watch it.

At night however...things playout completely different...in terms of our perception. As for the storm...it operates virtually the same as the storm in the daylight...the difference being...the storm at night is not easily seen. So folks go to sleep and often times are unaware of the approaching storm and thereby generally less prepared...so...when the storm hit's it seems so sudden and to have come out of nowhere.

Now...for the "spiritually immature, unexperienced or those dull of hearing" as the apostle Paul put it...eschatological events are often like the storm at night. The dragon and his beast are invisible because they are spirits. Invisible spirits cannot be seen with the human eye...but they are here and they are doing their destructive thing. 

The work they have been doing is millennia in the making...taking place over many decades and centuries making it hard to identify because when you are able to spread your plans over many decades and generations of mankind...humanity has a hard time following it and recognizing it. Being that these actions are taking place in the invisible spiritual realm...where mere humanity cannot see them...like the storm at night...it comes forth as the darkness has planned and is undetectable to the 5 human senses.

In addition to invisibility due to the cloak of deception and darkness...when the dragons plans do actually come forth on the earth...because most people by far have not recognized the invisible foundational work that took place over time...to one day manifest the evil acts of darkness, people generally do not recognize it as the works of the devil...it looks like the works of humanity to most...and there is that as well.

In other words...they do not have a "spiritual basis of reasoning" for what they are seeing and do not understand the spiritual cause of these evil and destructive events...so they do not understand what is "actually" happening...they believe in a different cause...one more plausible to the human mind. 

So my answer to your question is...it is a slow steady plodding in most cases...that is undetectable to the carnal and immature spiritual mind and often cases has been spread across the centuries...so that when it is time for the the dragons plans to be enacted on the earth...it can be experienced as a seemingly "quick slide" event out of nowhere...of which...mankind has no knowledge or understanding in regards to that which brings these events forth.

There's that for now...

Tatwo...:)

 

Edited June 1 by tatwo

[D. Adrien]

The only specific sign post I see is the nation of Israel having been reconstituted after the Second World War, which is a physical event, or geographical but having any value in being a point from which to base any measurement of time moving forward, I fail to see one. I grasp for a means of measuring time in prophecy currently, and it's just not yet apparent. A great many generalizations. 

Perhaps if Damascus got wiped off the map that would be one also.

 Edit: A hearty hello to everyone reading this thread too!

Edited June 1 by D. Adrien

[other one]

I'd have to look up the scripture, but somewhere it says that bad things happen to Israel and Jerusalem will be trodden underfoot till the times of the gentiles are over or fulfilled.   That could be seen to have happened in 1967 when Israel took over Jerusalem.

[tatwo]

5 hours ago, D. Adrien said:

The only specific sign post I see is the nation of Israel having been reconstituted after the Second World War, which is a physical event, or geographical but having any value in being a point from which to base any measurement of time moving forward, I fail to see one.

Yeh...well you said a mouthful there brother...yes we can see that Israel was reconstituted as a nation as you suggest...and the spiritual ramifications of this event does include a remnant...it is no different than any other nation tribe tongue or people. The enemy is using that fact...that Israel is once again a nation and that it somehow fits into the eschaton in its own unique and special way...however this is all deception on the part of the dragon...which does lead to skepticism as to their importance...so I am with you "Brother D. Adrian" and at the very least skeptical of its significance myself.

It is because those who see a national ethnic people as being included in the citizenship of the Kingdom of Heaven do not realize that the citizenship of the Kingdom of heaven is not physical nor is it ethnic...it is purely Spirit...Paul teaches this explicitly. We are a new creation...we are eternal...not an old physical geographical ethnic reality that has been done away with. So some folks will be unhappy that I said that...I know...yet when this all plays out...the truth will be known.

The issue in view here is the priesthood that administers the covenant. There is very little if any pertinent conversation about priesthoods on any of these forums that I have seen...but I have not seen them all.

I'll put this in play here...it is not a secret...the covenant God made with Himself before creation...before there were men...was always going to be administered by the "Royal Priesthood." The priesthood of Aaron also know as the "Levitical Priesthood" was a priesthood of men...finite humans...it was a type of "workaround" to keep a mostly rebellious Israel in the game to bring forth the "seed of promise"...God is merciful and gracious in the eternal way we must never forget that.

Abraham himself encountered "Melchisedek" the "Royal Priest - of the eternal Priesthood" long before Jacob was born and had any sons. This "Royal Priesthood" was in play then...and was always going to be the way God would administer His Kingdom...aka..."the Government of God"...on the earth. The Levitical Priesthood was for Israel...for a time...it was they who administered the standing covenant of their day...the "Old Covenant"...that time is over for like 2000 years. That priesthood is gone and will never again be of any consequence in terms of what the Lord Yahshua Christ in doing to bring about the revelation of His authority at the end of this age.

The Royal Priesthood is not made up of men...it is purely a spiritual priesthood and it is eternal...and is not in any way reliant upon man or anything in creation for that matter. The "Royal Priesthood" is such...because when you are both the King of kings who sits upon the throne of God you are "Royalty." When that "Royal King" who sits on the throne is also God's "High Priest" in the eternal order of Melchisedek...you have a "Royal Priesthood." A prophetic type of this is found in Zechariah 6...

This eternal Royal Priesthood is bringing the administration of "all authority"...given to our Lord Christ Yahshua by His Father "in heaven and on the earth"...making Him the "plenary source of all authority"...and He is bringing the "government of God" into play here on the earth as you read this. Those who constitute this "Royal Priesthood"...the "Body of Christ" under the immutable leadership of its glorious Head...is not presently waiting, watching and praying for the secret second coming of the Lord Yahshua Christ...that will not happen in that way.

They...the "Sons of God...the Body of Christ" are being prepared to reveal the glory of our God and Father of creation...in the exact manner in which the "first born of many sons"...the "only begotten Himself" did. As a result...they...Head and Body have begun to establish the Truth that the Lord Yahshua Christ...the Son of the living God...is in fact the King of kings. Something that Israel and Rome rejected.

His Father promised Him all the nations and the ends of the earth...and He is going to get them! He is Christ...Head and Body...alive and well on the earth and in the heavens today. He is eternal...no beginning and no end...there is nothing that can threaten Him.

Perhaps you have not heard this have you? And many of you who do...will reject this...fine go back to your creature comforts and trust in them to secure you...I have no issue with that...the Lord Himself warned us against that. If you are "born again" we will meet again...hopefully in this age...I say that because the next age is going to be quite different for the rebellious children of God.

Prophetically D. Adrian...Christ the Son of the living God is being revealed to creation now...as the fulfillment of God the Father's original desire and intent in the putting forth of creation itself...to bring about "a man in His image and likeness." Such a man is "Spirit" not flesh...and He is called Christ.

Tatwo...:)   

    

Edited June 2 by tatwo

[NConly]

6 hours ago, D. Adrien said:

The only specific sign post I see is the nation of Israel having been reconstituted after the Second World War, which is a physical event, or geographical but having any value in being a point from which to base any measurement of time moving forward, I fail to see one. I grasp for a means of measuring time in prophecy currently, and it's just not yet apparent. A great many generalizations. 

Perhaps if Damascus got wiped off the map that would be one also.

 Edit: A hearty hello to everyone reading this thread too!

Some say when Israel became a nation in 1948 that would be the last Generation of Gentiles. Those born in  1948 would be 77 today.

Time could be soon.