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I have reviewed the video and taken notes. What he argues against isn't my view and he makes a number of mistakes. First, he asserts that ALL views of creation "must account for all evil and death in the world that God made". This is just an opinion, because of the FACT that God left out all detail. He doesn't get to demand of God what God has not given us. He begins with human death in Gen 3 and refers to Rom 5:12. Fine, but since God gave no details for understanding "tohu wabohu", God doesn't account for whatever death occurred before God made man. He admits the Bible is silent about when Satan rebelled. However, we KNOW that he did. And where else can we place the rebellion? He acknowledges the millions of years of "geologic columns". He calls the gap "theory" (which I have NOT addressed) "reading between the lines. Bogus. My view comes from the wording of v.2. Then he attributes the gap to Satan "corrupting creation so God had to destroy it". Totally bogus. We DON'T KNOW WHO OR WHAT OR WHY the earth became a wasteland. Those who think God "had to destroy the earth" are speculating. Then he unflinchingly accepts the translation of "without form" as legit, when NO object is without form. Everything is 3 dimensional, and therefore HAS form. So he didn't do his homework on that point. Whatever "tohu" means cannot be "without form". Very lousy translation. He notes the verb in 'gap theory' should be 'became' and addresses the "linear approach". I wonder how many scholars agree with him, since it's hard to find scholars in mass agreement on anything. Then he deals with the "waw consecutive" and claimed v.1-2 includes a "set of conditions present for God's announcement in v.3". However, there is no "announcement" in v.3. So he's confused. He claims "no linear sequence" means no chronology of events. Another opinion, in my opinion. Then he notes a "reverse waw consecutive", and mentions it is a "waw disjunctive" but failed to explain. And didn't note how the Septuagint rendered it, which is the Greek "de" which means "but". So it is a conjunctive of contrast with the first verse!!! Then he claims this "reverse waw consecutive" rules out the verb meaning "became". Another opinion? Since the waw is translated as 'but' in the Septuagint, and it translates "tohu" as "unsightly", should be a clue as to what's going on. But Heiser seems clueless on that FACT. Then he makes another error by saying "linear sequence" means "one thing becoming another". How wrong could he be? The earth didn't change into something other. The earth is the earth. Seems he isn't aware of the FACT that "tohu wabohu" is a description of CONDITION of something. The earth didn't change into something else. It remained the earth. It simply became unable to support human life. Duh. Then he lists several "lethal problems" with gap. 1. judgment of Satan between v.1 and 2. Should be pretty clear from what the Bible does say that it was before God created Adam, since evil Satan didn't show up until A & E were created. Where else would you like to place Satan's fall? What else makes sense? 2. "tohu" suggests judgment, which is false. I've never said that and the word is merely a description of condition, REGARDLESS of how the condition occurred. So just more opinion. And then he admits "tohu" means 'wasteland'!!!!! His noe then brought up Jer 4:23 and Isa 34:11 and admits the context in both are about judgment. But, so what? The point of "tohu wabohu" isn't directly about judgment, but the CONDITION of the land after armies storm through. So "judgment" isn't a part of "tohu wabohu". The words are descriptive of CONDITION. He admits "tohu wabohu" describes the RESULT of judgment, but that doesn't mean the words are about judgment. So he appears rather confused on that point. Then he claims we "can't import the meaning of "tohu wabohu" into Gen 1:2 because there is no context for it". Amazingly naive. In all 3 verses, "tohu wabohu" is used as a description of earth/land. Period. judgment has no bearing on the meaning of the words. He wrongly thinks that gap thinks that God destroyed the earth. Nonsense. Satan and his fallen horde could have, but that is speculation, and I don't speculate. So I leave all that out. All I know is that "tohu wabohu" describes an uninhabitable wasteland, which he actually acknowledged, but then insisted that meaning couldn't be "imported into Gen 1:2". Nonsense. Of course it WAS. Otherwise, Jeremiah was quoting from Gen 1:2 as a description of creation in a context where he was warning Israel of coming disaster and the total destruction of the land!!!!!!! How does creation and total destruction go together? Never. 3. 'darkness' in v.2 doesn't necessarily mean or refer to evil. Who says it does? Kind of a irrelevant comment. A very deep ice pack would obviously leave the surface of earth dark, since light doesn't penetrate deep layers of ice. So, there it is. An easy refutation of Heiser's ideas. Here is what he can't refute: 1. tohu wabohu means what it means in all 3 verses. It can NEVER mean "without form" or "formless". Reality dictates otherwise. 2. v.2 begins with a waw disjunctive, comparable to being a conjunction of contrast with v.1, and the Septuagint translated it that way by using "but". 3. The verb in that exact same form as in v.2 IS translated as "became" in a number of verses throughout the OT. 4. The English translation of v.1-2 contradicts Isa 45:18, which specifically says "God did not create (bara) the earth TOHU". Either He did or He didn't. Isaiah says He didn't. But all the English translations say He did. I guess you get to take your pick. I go with Isaiah and the true meaning of "tohu", which removes any contradiction.

He bought the land for Pharaoh, but he was the lord of Pharaoh's house. Which means that he bought it for himself. I am convinced that Genesis 45:8 is clear enough. When I look at the relationship between Joseph and Pharaoh, Pharaoh looks to me like a clueless man and Joseph looks like a very clever man who has Pharaoh under control. Joseph had already settled his family in Goshen and only then he told Pharaoh. Joseph calls himself “Pharaoh's father” which means that Joseph was the one who told Pharaoh what to do. And the morality that Jesus taught, such as love your neighbor and your enemy, already existed before Jesus. You can find many examples in the Old Testament.

No it doesn't, that is just you again not understanding God's word. Via the 7 Vials God Wrath is FILLED UP. Revelation 15:1 ¶ And 2532 I saw 1492 z5627 another 243 signe 4592 in 1722 heauen 3772 great 3173 and 2532 marueilous, 2298 seuen 2033 Angels 32 hauing 2192 z5723 the x3588 seuen 2033 last 2078 plagues, 4127 for 3754 in 1722 them 846 is filled vp 5055 z5681 the x3588 wrath 2372 of God. 2316 The SEVEN LAST PLAGUES are come and IN THEM are God's Wrath FILLED UP, it does not say n the 7 contains all pf God's Wrath, it SPECIFICALLY SAYS.........IN THEM...........is God's Wrath FILLED UP. Can you add sir, I have a jar full of ping pong balls, with a little room left, I place 7 more in the jar in IN THEM (those 7 BALLS !!!!) is the Jar FILLED UP............Get it? You are clueless on Prophesy brother, its just not your bag. You are all over the place, stop trying to force it man.

The posts above show how abysmally clueless most people are about what God has told us thru His Prophets, His plans for our future. Wars – what wars? There is a lot of talk about World War 3, the Gog/Magog War, Armageddon, etc. The actual fact is – they are not wars at all! They are all events where God uses seemingly natural occurrences, such as earthquakes, hailstorms, plagues and sunstrikes to destroy enemy armies. The exception is when Jesus uses the Sword of His Word at His Return. The so called next Mid East war or W.W. 3: Micah 4:11-12 Now many nations are massed against Israel.....They do not know the Lord's purpose, for He has gathered them for the threshing. Psalms 83:13-15 Scatter Your enemies, O God, like thistledown, like chaff before the wind, like a fire raging through the forested hills. Pursue them with Your tempest, terrify them with Your storm winds. 2 Samuel 22:9-16 The earth quaked, shaking because of the Lord’s anger. Smoke and devouring fire issued from Him. He parted the heavens and came down, thick darkness His covering. God thundered from heaven, lightning shafts flashed. Psalms 50:1-3 The Lord is coming, a consuming fire, around Him a great storm rages. Zechariah 9:14 The Lord will appear over them, His arrows flashing like lightning. Isaiah 29:6 Suddenly, in an instant, punishment will come from the Lord, with fire, etc. Habakkuk 3:14 With his own weapon, You pierced his head, as they stormed out to fight Joel 1:15 The Day of the Lord is near, it comes, a mighty destruction from the Almighty Revelation 6:12-17 The Lamb broke the Sixth Seal, there was a violent earthquake ..terrible signs in the heavens. The great Day of the Lord’s wrath has come and who can stand? Isaiah 30:26 The sun will shine 7 times brighter on the Day the Lord saves His people. A Coronal Mass Ejection of unprecedented magnitude will literally fulfil all the graphic prophesies about the forthcoming actual Day of the Lord’s fiery wrath. The Gog, Magog attack: Ezekiel 38:19-22 I shall bring them to judgement with pestilence and bloodshed. I shall pour torrential rain and hailstorms as well as fire and brimstone on them all. In My anger, there will be a great earthquake in Israel that day. Terror will strike the hearts of Gog’s armies and his men will turn their swords against one another. Joel 2:20 I shall remove the Northern peril far from you and banish them into the desert. The stench and foul smell of them will rise up. Armageddon – at the Return of Jesus: Revelation 19:15-21 Out of His mouth came a sharp sword to smite the nations. Zechariah 14:12-15 The Lord will strike with plague all the nations who warred against Israel Daniel 11:45 The Anti Christ will camp between the sea and Jerusalem and there, he will meet his end, with no one to help him. End of the Millennium: Rev 20:7-10 When the 1000 years has ended, Satan will seduce the nations. They lay siege to God’s city. But fire came down from heaven and consumed them. Ref: REB. Verses abridged. What God requires of His people, is trust and faith that He will deliver and protect them. They must be prepared to take advantage of any situation, but with fervent prayer for the Lords deliverance, trusting in His provision for them. Isaiah 30:15 In calm detachment lies your safety, your strength in quiet trust. Psalm 37:1-29 Trust in the Lord and do good, settle in the Land, find good pasture. Commit your ways to the Lord, trust in Him and He will act. His righteous people will inherit the Land and will live there forever. Isaiah 25:9 On that day, the people will say: See, this is our God, we waited for Him, and He has delivered us. This is the God whom we have trusted, we will rejoice. Jeremiah 39:18 I shall keep you safe, you will not be killed, because you trusted in Me.

It appears to me that, in the fall, there were only Adam and Eve; Cain had not yet been conceived, according to my understanding of scripture. I have wondered about this myself, and I will speculate a little. I have more questions and no answers. I suspect that, initially, childbearing was not to be as painful and laborious as it was intended before the fall. After being naked and without shame, why suddenly did they want to cover and hide their private parts using a fig leaf? Why did God curse Eve and her descendants with the pain of childbearing after that? Do we suppose a sexual sin, commonality, or association between the two? Genesis 2:24-25 Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh. 25 And they were both naked, the man and his wife, and were not ashamed. Suppose this is chronological, not having a mother, or concept-experience of parenting and having a child. How did they understand this command of paternal and maternal, father and mother? When, how, and why did they instantly become ashamed? I have heard some wild theories and expository on this. Nonetheless, it is curious and leaves me clueless. Historically, bringing a child into this world has been a blessing and celebration. Is the sorrow mentioned pertain to bringing a child into this sinful world? Is it the labor, pain, and suffering of delivery, the mother wishing she had refrained from this, and temporarily blaming the father for her pains and sorrow? Or something else?

Thanks. It has been a peaceful Sabbath. Hope for you also. Yes. He told the Jews that He saw the fathers of Israel as the first fruits of the first harvest..........fig tree at her first time. However, they went to Baalpeor and would no longer be the first harvest. This is not a mystery. This is just straight scriptural fact. The Jews (12 tribes) will not be the first harvest. The Gentiles will be. Hosea 9 10 I found Israel like grapes in the wilderness; I saw your fathers as the firstripe in the fig tree at her first time: but they went to Baalpeor, and separated themselves unto that shame; and their abominations were according as they loved. It's a shame that a man that appears to have spent a bunch of time in the Word of God could be so clueless. Hard to process. Brother, neither the Church, nor the seed of the woman, the twelve tribes across the earth will be on earth during the wrath of God. The only ones on earth during the wrath of God will be the woman, those that have fled to a place of protection, the two witnesses, and unbelievers. (including Antichrist, fallen angels, etc)

I didn’t intend the witch pic. YouTube chose it. Of all the pics it could have chosen as my thumbnail. Anyho, I am attempting to up my game with more quality videos on this channel. I guess I should look into ways I can get it out there. I am pretty clueless like that.

Index and summaries of all articles is here: https://www.worthychristianforums.com/blogs/entry/2814-index-and-summaries-of-articles/ Introduction “By the mouth of two or three witnesses may every word be established.” Matt. 18:16; 2 Cor. 13:1; Deut. 19:15; etc. Most Christians know that the story of the First Coming of Christ was revealed in “types and shadows”–allegories– in the Old Testament. One such allegory was Abraham offering up in sacrifice his “only son” Isaac, at or near the place Jesus was later crucified. Another example is the whole Mosaic Passover symbolism of a slain lamb. God staged these and other OT stories to portray the sacrificial Crucifixion of Jesus Christ, God´s “only begotten son.” “Christ our Passover [Lamb] was sacrificed for us.” Gen. 22; Ex. 12; 1 Cor. 5:7 What few Christians realize is the extent to which God likewise used Old Testament allegory to reveal and prophesy about the Second Coming of Christ. Now, according to Divine Law, there must be at least two witnesses to establish a matter. In this blog you will find a series of articles/witnesses, all rooted in biblical and other ancient Hebraic sources, that are in agreement. They establish, in quite a bit of detail, the true order of events of the End Times. All the Old Testament allegories about the Second Coming unequivocably agree: they all portray the doctrine known as Post-Trib, Pre-Wrath, 6th Seal. Gentile Church Versus Hebrew Prophecy God revealed His foreknowledge about the First and Second Comings by means of His people, the Hebrews, the children of Israel. Yet most of Israel “were blinded” (Rom. 11:7) as to the identity of Yeshua being their Messiah, and to the allegorical meaning of their own history. Only to Paul did the Lord reveal deep understanding of these allegories. And only to John did the Lord provide His extensive Revelation of the Latter Days. By the end of the first century A.D., the Church had become a predominantly Gentile institution in both membership and culture. Lacking a Hebraic background, its leaders began to view OT history as only history, and OT prophecy as being opaque, because these Gentiles had little understanding in the subtleties of the Hebrew language–they read the Scriptures in Greek–and next to no knowledge of Jewish lore. Henceforward, the Church became ever more cut off from the Hebraic roots of “the faith which was once delivered to the [Hebrew/Israelite] saints.” Jude 3 By the mid-fourth century A.D., Gentile Church leaders had banned the observance of the Hebrew Sabbath and Feast Days, although all of these contain prophetic significance. Separated from its Hebraic roots, the Gentile Church had regressed until even the prophetic mysteries that Paul taught had become opaque–and about the meaning of the Revelation they were clueless. Now, once again viewed through Hebraic lenses, the Hebraic prophecies are able to be understood as originally intended. I highly recommend that readers print out and carefully study out the posts to follow. These are complex teachings, not easily grasped by a surface reading. The fourth post, the Crib Sheet, is the shortest and simplest.

Those of us with “eternal life” and know it…who are learning how to live from the power and authority of that reality or realm…are preparing to bring God’s glory to this creation in the form of a “Man”…a “Son” that God Himself raises up out of this earth…known as “Christ.” As prophesied…this age then is “our” preparation…for “our” roles and rule in the next age as the “rod of iron.” This is in brief why it is of no concern who rules the earth and any given nation today…for the sons of God…those in Christ Yahshua. The Holy Spirit lead “Sons of God on earth” have no spare desire to waste…especially in the affairs of the “beast, lawless one, prostitute and related systems” as the churches and its Christian constituency seems to have? While they are patiently “waiting and watching for Lord Yahshua’s return”…utterly clueless [blinded by unbelief] in regards to what is enclosing upon them on all sides…which I am presently warning anyone who is reading this…about. Ray…the Lord has come to His people…He is alive in power and authority in us…and He is raising us up to “His standard of righteousness and holiness” thus the tribulation working us to perfection. We are to become the dispensers of the Love of God the Father who desires to reveal Himself to His creation in His Son…yet today. I call today’s gospel…the “Urgent Gospel”…while the reality of evangelism is yet marginally available to the earth…the movement from the immature and carnal children of God to the “Mature Man” is now here. For those who do not see this…and mature in their divine call…the days ahead are going to be perilous. The hope to overcome is found in the living temple of God…which is His people…on the earth abiding in His presence as His Body…which has nothing to do with temporal earthly realities which are steeped in deception…which include the modern church in any and all flavors anywhere today. Tatwo...:)

Well, let's see what an informed YE creationist has to say about that: Evolution is not a theory in crisis. It is not teetering on the verge of collapse. It has not failed as a scientific explanation. There is evidence for evolution, gobs and gobs of it. It is not just speculation or a faith choice or an assumption or a religion. It is a productive framework for lots of biological research, and it has amazing explanatory power. There is no conspiracy to hide the truth about the failure of evolution. There has really been no failure of evolution as a scientific theory. It works, and it works well. I say these things not because I'm crazy or because I've "converted" to evolution. I say these things because they are true. I'm motivated this morning by reading yet another clueless, well-meaning person pompously declaring that evolution is a failure. People who say that are either unacquainted with the inner workings of science or unacquainted with the evidence for evolution. ... Creationist students, listen to me very carefully: There is evidence for evolution, and evolution is an extremely successful scientific theory. That doesn't make it ultimately true, and it doesn't mean that there could not possibly be viable alternatives. YE creationist Dr. Todd Wood, The Truth About Evolution

He also wrote this: Evolution is not a theory in crisis. It is not teetering on the verge of collapse. It has not failed as a scientific explanation. There is evidence for evolution, gobs and gobs of it. It is not just speculation or a faith choice or an assumption or a religion. It is a productive framework for lots of biological research, and it has amazing explanatory power. There is no conspiracy to hide the truth about the failure of evolution. There has really been no failure of evolution as a scientific theory. It works, and it works well. I say these things not because I'm crazy or because I've "converted" to evolution. I say these things because they are true. I'm motivated this morning by reading yet another clueless, well-meaning person pompously declaring that evolution is a failure. People who say that are either unacquainted with the inner workings of science or unacquainted with the evidence for evolution. (Technically, they could also be deluded or lying, but that seems rather uncharitable to say. Oops.) Dr. Wood and I differ on our interpretation of the Bible, but he's too honest to deny that evolutionary theory is highly successful in explaining the facts. He's an honest creationist. And he's honest enough to admit that it's his belief, not a fact.

Notice that Denton now claims that Darwin's claim of "descent with modification" is a "fact." Denton now says all existing life forms evolved from a common ancestor. But Denton also admits the "fact of descent with modification" and "There is no doubt that all extant life forms are related, and descended from a primeval ancestral form at the base of the tree. " This is the guy you're touting as an alternative to Billy Graham, who wrote: "I don’t think that there’s any conflict at all between science today and the Scriptures. I think that we have misinterpreted the Scriptures many times and we’ve tried to make the Scriptures say things they weren’t meant to say. I think that we have made a mistake by thinking the Bible is a scientific book. The Bible is not a book of science. The Bible is a book of Redemption, and of course I accept the Creation story. I believe that God did create the universe. I believe that God created man, and whether it came by an evolutionary process and at a certain point He took this person or being and made him a living soul or not, does not change the fact that God did create man. […] whichever way God did it makes no difference as to what man is and man’s relationship to God." Billy Graham: Personal Thoughts of a Public Man. Chariot Victor Pub., 1997. p. 72 "Increasing complexity" is a creationist idea. Sometimes, as in the reptile/mammal transition, things get simplified. And your fellow YE creationists admit that the theory is good and useful science: Evolution is not a theory in crisis. It is not teetering on the verge of collapse. It has not failed as a scientific explanation. There is evidence for evolution, gobs and gobs of it. It is not just speculation or a faith choice or an assumption or a religion. It is a productive framework for lots of biological research, and it has amazing explanatory power. There is no conspiracy to hide the truth about the failure of evolution. There has really been no failure of evolution as a scientific theory. It works, and it works well. I say these things not because I'm crazy or because I've "converted" to evolution. I say these things because they are true. I'm motivated this morning by reading yet another clueless, well-meaning person pompously declaring that evolution is a failure. People who say that are either unacquainted with the inner workings of science or unacquainted with the evidence for evolution. (Technically, they could also be deluded or lying, but that seems rather uncharitable to say. Oops.) Creationist students, listen to me very carefully: There is evidence for evolution, and evolution is an extremely successful scientific theory. That doesn't make it ultimately true, and it doesn't mean that there could not possibly be viable alternatives. https://toddcwood.blogspot.com/2009/09/truth-about-evolution.html The guy you touted as an expert says you're wrong. As you know, even YE creationists who are familiar with the evidence admit that it indicates common descent of all living things on Earth. Which, as you learned earlier, is not part of Darwin's theory, but is a finding of genetics, not evolutionary theory. As you know, Darwin supposed that God created the first living things. So your assumption is incorrect. Given the religious beliefs of Darwin and other biologists, that's demonstrably false. At a large state university, I took my first course in immunology from a YE creationist professor who had tenure. Again, you've been had by people who probably knew no more about it that you do. This doesn't really matter at all as far as salvation goes. YE creationists, unless they make an idol of their new beliefs, are no less Christian than the rest of us. But there is something that causes great evil as a result of their false doctrines: But eventually, by 1994 I was through with young-earth creationISM. Nothing that young-earth creationists had taught me about geology turned out to be true. I took a poll of my ICR graduate friends who have worked in the oil industry. I asked them one question. “From your oil industry experience, did any fact that you were taught at ICR, which challenged current geological thinking, turn out in the long run to be true?” That is a very simple question. One man, Steve Robertson, who worked for Shell grew real silent on the phone, sighed and softly said ‘No!’ A very close friend that I had hired at Arco, after hearing the question, exclaimed, “Wait a minute. There has to be one!” But he could not name one. I can not name one. No one else could either. One man I could not reach, to ask that question, had a crisis of faith about two years after coming into the oil industry. I do not know what his spiritual state is now, but he was in bad shape the last time I talked to him. And being through with creationism, I very nearly became through with Christianity. I was on the very verge of becoming an atheist. Glenn Morton, Why I Left Young-Earth Creationism YE is a highly-effective athiest-maker.

Your fellow YE creationists disagree with you... Evolution is not a theory in crisis. It is not teetering on the verge of collapse. It has not failed as a scientific explanation. There is evidence for evolution, gobs and gobs of it. It is not just speculation or a faith choice or an assumption or a religion. It is a productive framework for lots of biological research, and it has amazing explanatory power. There is no conspiracy to hide the truth about the failure of evolution. There has really been no failure of evolution as a scientific theory. It works, and it works well. I say these things not because I'm crazy or because I've "converted" to evolution. I say these things because they are true. I'm motivated this morning by reading yet another clueless, well-meaning person pompously declaring that evolution is a failure. People who say that are either unacquainted with the inner workings of science or unacquainted with the evidence for evolution. (Technically, they could also be deluded or lying, but that seems rather uncharitable to say. Oops.) Creationist students, listen to me very carefully: There is evidence for evolution, and evolution is an extremely successful scientific theory. That doesn't make it ultimately true, and it doesn't mean that there could not possibly be viable alternatives. It is my own faith choice to reject evolution, because I believe the Bible reveals true information about the history of the earth that is fundamentally incompatible with evolution. I am motivated to understand God's creation from what I believe to be a biblical, creationist perspective. Evolution itself is not flawed or without evidence. https://toddcwood.blogspot.com/2009/09/truth-about-evolution.html You've confused materials with the structure. As you see, birds lay and hatch from theropod dinosaur eggs. Not just the basic structure; it's the same, down to the microstructure of the shell. All dinosaur eggs, including those of birds use the same materials. But they are constructed in unique ways for theropod dinosaurs, including birds. Cakcium carbonate is the same in all structures. But the way it's formed into different things makes all the difference.

Since Darwin attributed the origin of life to God, you're obviously mistaken. TE is just a religious belief that accepts God's creation as it is. So is gravity. Don't step off any high buildings. You've confusing the observed phenomena of gravity and evolution with the theories that explain them. You have it backwards. Even knowledgeable YE creationists admit it's a very good theory: Evolution is not a theory in crisis. It is not teetering on the verge of collapse. It has not failed as a scientific explanation. There is evidence for evolution, gobs and gobs of it. It is not just speculation or a faith choice or an assumption or a religion. It is a productive framework for lots of biological research, and it has amazing explanatory power. There is no conspiracy to hide the truth about the failure of evolution. There has really been no failure of evolution as a scientific theory. It works, and it works well. I say these things not because I'm crazy or because I've "converted" to evolution. I say these things because they are true. I'm motivated this morning by reading yet another clueless, well-meaning person pompously declaring that evolution is a failure. People who say that are either unacquainted with the inner workings of science or unacquainted with the evidence for evolution. (Technically, they could also be deluded or lying, but that seems rather uncharitable to say. Oops.) Creationist students, listen to me very carefully: There is evidence for evolution, and evolution is an extremely successful scientific theory. That doesn't make it ultimately true, and it doesn't mean that there could not possibly be viable alternatives. It is my own faith choice to reject evolution, because I believe the Bible reveals true information about the history of the earth that is fundamentally incompatible with evolution. I am motivated to understand God's creation from what I believe to be a biblical, creationist perspective. Evolution itself is not flawed or without evidence. Please don't be duped into thinking that somehow evolution itself is a failure. Please don't idolize your own ability to reason. YE creationist Dr. Todd Wood https://toddcwood.blogspot.com/2009/09/truth-about-evolution.html That would be YE creationism. YE is part of a number of religions, including Wicca and Islam.

They are both observed natural phenomena. It's observable in all living populations, including humans. Evidence pretty much nails it. If they were, they wouldn't be so genetically close to other apes. It's why Christians who know about the evidence, tend to accept evolution. I said those who know about the evidence. Evolution is not a theory in crisis. It is not teetering on the verge of collapse. It has not failed as a scientific explanation. There is evidence for evolution, gobs and gobs of it. It is not just speculation or a faith choice or an assumption or a religion. It is a productive framework for lots of biological research, and it has amazing explanatory power. There is no conspiracy to hide the truth about the failure of evolution. There has really been no failure of evolution as a scientific theory. It works, and it works well. I say these things not because I'm crazy or because I've "converted" to evolution. I say these things because they are true. I'm motivated this morning by reading yet another clueless, well-meaning person pompously declaring that evolution is a failure. People who say that are either unacquainted with the inner workings of science or unacquainted with the evidence for evolution. (Technically, they could also be deluded or lying, but that seems rather uncharitable to say. Oops.) Creationist students, listen to me very carefully: There is evidence for evolution, and evolution is an extremely successful scientific theory. That doesn't make it ultimately true, and it doesn't mean that there could not possibly be viable alternatives. It is my own faith choice to reject evolution, because I believe the Bible reveals true information about the history of the earth that is fundamentally incompatible with evolution. I am motivated to understand God's creation from what I believe to be a biblical, creationist perspective. Evolution itself is not flawed or without evidence. Please don't be duped into thinking that somehow evolution itself is a failure. Please don't idolize your own ability to reason. Faith is enough. If God said it, that should settle it. YE creationist Dr. Todd Wood The Truth About Evolution No. They aren't even in the same family. "Looks kinda alike" is not the same things as "being the same." Yes it was a creationist hoax. It involved the Australopithecine known as Lucy. The faked story said that one of the bones was found nearly a mile away. That's false. They were all found at the site. Would you like me to show you how the hoax was perpetrated by creationists? By non-biologists. For the obvious reasons. No, I did not. You could provide all sorts of detail to support your claims, if you had it and wanted to show us. But if you don't want to get into the details, there's really no way to evaluate questions like nuclear fusion or evolution. God says that the Earth brought forth living things. He says man also came from the Earth but that He directly gave man a living soul. Do you think you are a creature of God? Did He make you directly or did He use nature as He does most everything in this world? Most of the world's Christians disagree with your interpretation of the Bible. And show us that scientific data. Evolution is merely the way populations change over time. And we see it happening everywhere. Would you like some examples? I think what you're talking about is common descent, not evolution. And even Darwin thought that God might have made any number of original living things. Genetics has shown common descent, not evolutionary theory. You're confusing analogy with homology. Birds and bats are analogous. Bats and whales are homologous. Homology shows evolution. Analogy most often does not. Evolution is a change in allele frequencies in a population over time. And we see that in all populations, including humans. The dull explanation is that evolutionary theory is the theory that explains it. The theory is accepted by scientists, because of a large number of confirmed predictions of the theory. Would you like know about some of them?

Let's ask an honest YE Creationist: Evolution is not a theory in crisis. It is not teetering on the verge of collapse. It has not failed as a scientific explanation. There is evidence for evolution, gobs and gobs of it. It is not just speculation or a faith choice or an assumption or a religion. It is a productive framework for lots of biological research, and it has amazing explanatory power. There is no conspiracy to hide the truth about the failure of evolution. There has really been no failure of evolution as a scientific theory. It works, and it works well. I say these things not because I'm crazy or because I've "converted" to evolution. I say these things because they are true. I'm motivated this morning by reading yet another clueless, well-meaning person pompously declaring that evolution is a failure. People who say that are either unacquainted with the inner workings of science or unacquainted with the evidence for evolution. (Technically, they could also be deluded or lying, but that seems rather uncharitable to say. Oops.) Creationist students, listen to me very carefully: There is evidence for evolution, and evolution is an extremely successful scientific theory. That doesn't make it ultimately true, and it doesn't mean that there could not possibly be viable alternatives. It is my own faith choice to reject evolution, because I believe the Bible reveals true information about the history of the earth that is fundamentally incompatible with evolution. I am motivated to understand God's creation from what I believe to be a biblical, creationist perspective. Evolution itself is not flawed or without evidence. Please don't be duped into thinking that somehow evolution itself is a failure. Please don't idolize your own ability to reason. Faith is enough. If God said it, that should settle it. Dr. Todd Wood The Truth About Evolution https://toddcwood.blogspot.com/2009/09/truth-about-evolution.html

how clueless can one get? He just doesn't accept any translation other than the KJV, which was translated from 10th century manuscripts, which means there's a lot of "typos" in it since all manuscripts were hand copied. He talks about "the recorded wwords of the Creator" but is obviously clueless of the fact that he rejects the LITERAL HEBREW, which is what Moses wrote, and I've shown from all the verses on biblehub.com how 'tohu wabohu' was used throughout the OT to describe DESTRUCTION but he is trying to force a description of CONSTRUCTION into Gen 1:2, when NO translation does that. Rather, maybe you should have read all the verses I quoted for you that prove my position and refute yours. Who cares HOW he came to his conclusion? He didn't have biblehub.com to ease the research on HOW 'tohu wabohu' is used throughout the OT. What absurdity! I've shown the many many English translations that have used 'tohu wabohu' to describe total destruction of land throughout the OT. I don't need Scofield's recommendation, nor have I used his comments. I don't need them, because I have at my disposal 32 English translations, all of which support my claim that 'tohu wabohu' means the earth became a wasteland. Because that's how the word is translated throughout the OT. So to say "almost nobody agrees with me" is beyond absurd. Kinda gets into the realm of non-reality. I've shown that the verb "was" in the EXACT SAME FORM as found in Gen 1:2 occurs 111 times in the OT. And about 20% of them translate it as either "became" or "become", so you don't know what you are talking about. Almost none of them translate the verb as "was". And where they do, the words are synonymous. EX: Mary WAS the wife of Joseph. Mary BECAME the wife of Joseph. Means the same thing exactly. I do have a problem with lousy translations that didn't have the courage to translate 'tohu wabohu' properly in Gen 1:2 just because God didn't provide any details. Having no details doesn't mean nothing happened. That's just a real stupid assumption. We know how "tohu" is translated elsewhere is the OT, and it is about destruction, not construction, consistently. I want to please God by accepting what the LITERAL HEBREW says. There are many old believers who have no idea about the literal Hebrew. Everything I have quoted agrees with me. What source or sources do you have that prove me wrong? And just quoting the KJV or those who copied it aren't how to prove anything. What scholarly sources do you have, since you haven't appealed to any as of yet.

Some people vote Democrat because they always have, some vote because they are for the Woke agenda which Democrats support...and there are others that are clueless about the dangerous policies of Harris and Walz. I heard a lot of people left Minnesota because of Walz. Under him there was higher crime, higher taxes...plus the Woke nonsense. He signed an Executive Order that children can be taken away from parents if the parents don't give the kids gender affirming care, puberty blockers and sex change operations. Plus he wants MN to be a sanctuary State.

Man showed up then God breathed into his nostrils ... BOOM ... Adam was already alive walking around before the breath was given, thus resided living soul. Like today breath and life when a human dies life within the body lives on for quite awhile, that life is clueless that the breath is gone. In the same way man was clueless of having a soul, until the breath was given. I think metamorphosis had a bigger role in creation rather than being mostly confined to the insect world as it is today.

What you are missing are that two posts where deleted by another one who posted them and then I get this following post Clueless as to why your stuck on lying. And you detect someone is lying? Speculation is not fact. You know or you don't. Sorry to break it to you but we all have sin for you are just like the rest of us. There is none righteous not one. Since no one sins against me and I am not lord over them, not their God and its not written they should answer to my personal belief ..or yours. Thanks for sharing though I tried to be a clear as possible to bring up into discussion the topic of lying. In any regard , I ask that this thread not be derailed off topic , and that people stick to the topic at hand . I think reflection on this topic can be helpful ( including for me too) for our own individual walk with Christ Jesus Thanks; In Christ Jesus always; 1to3

Context.. sin does not send anyone to (forgive me Father) hell. Its do you know Yeshua/Jesus Christ as lord. Clueless as to why your stuck on lying. And you detect someone is lying? Speculation is not fact. You know or you don't. Sorry to break it to you but we all have sin for you are just like the rest of us. There is none righteous not one. Since no one sins against me and I am not lord over them, not their God and its not written they should answer to my personal belief ..or yours. Thanks for sharing though

Eternal security is clearly taught in Scripture. Election to salvation is not taught in Scripture. Election is to service, taught plainly. I'm neither Calvinist or Arminian. I'm "applying" the word 'son' in the way Jesus used it. The prodigal was the son of his father. Rather clear to me. How else can you take it? And the 'father' represents our Heavenly Father, who always waits for his prodigal children, and greets them with love and grace when they have confessed and repented. Then it would seem that you don't believe that fellowship can be broken. Why? The entire subject of 1 John 1 is about fellowship. All will sin, of course. As to backsliding, not all do. I have no idea the percentage that will. But this parable isn't about getting saved. It's about breaking fellowship. In the first century Palestine, it was considered the height of rudeness and crudeness for a son to ask his living father for his cut. The children only got their cut when the father had died. So the prodigal was basically telling his father he wished he was dead because he wanted his cut NOW. That is definitely a break in fellowship. Or the death of it. I think what Jesus taught about the prodigal is essential. Believers need to know how to get back into fellowship and how the Father receives a prodigal who confesses and repents. This is BASIC to Christianity and the Christian life. Unfortunately, there are way too many believers who are totally clueless about all this. How many times do we hear people instruct to apologize to God, and ASK for forgiveness, when 1 John 1:9 tells believers to CONFESS their sins, NOT ask for forgiveness. No verse tells believers to ask for forgiveness. Ignorance abounds among evangelicals. Blame goes to the pastors or seminaries for failing to teach this basic doctrine.

Yet, you still don't know WHAT died "on the day" he ate the fruit. That's just swell. So, on the flipside, what is "made alive", also called "RE-generated" and "born AGAIN"? Only ONE thing fits both scenarios. And you deny that. According to the Bible, which is my source for truth, the death both A&E experienced "on the day" they ate the fruit was their human spirits. What is actually a process is physical death through aging. Note that James was writing to saved Jews. If one thinks that death is eternal, then no one can be saved since all sin. They'd be dead at the first sin. Obviously it can't be physical, because not even Adam dropped when he ate the fruit. In this text, "death" refers to temporal death, or loss of fellowship with the Lord. David wrote that if he regards iniquity, the Lord will not hear him (praying). That is loss of fellowship. The Lord isn't listening. Because that is the ONLY logical reason. And it fits perfectly being RE-generated, RE-born or made alive at the moment of faith. Nothing else fits at all. But you are just ignoring all the implications. Those verses were describing saved people. All saved people have been born again. btw, please describe what being "born again" means. Of course it doesn't. And that is my point. The "mind", also called "heart" is different than the spirit. I also explained that in some places in the Bible, soul and spirit are synonymous. Oh, THAT is rich!! lol You're the one who can't describe WHAT died "on the day" A&E ate the fruit, nor can you describe WHAT is made alive, RE-generated or born AGAIN at faith. So don't tell me what I'm not. You have no idea what died and what is reborn, yet I've shown you the verses where these words are used, and you remain clueless. How logical is THAT? Does this verse have any real meaning to you? What is a "different spirit"? Why ask about death when the verse doesn't? Why try to move the goal posts? Let's just face the fact that even though Adam DID DIE "on the day" he ate the fruit, AND at the moment of faith one is born AGAIN, or RE-generated or made alive, you just don't want to accept what IS totally logical. What isn't logical is to have NO IDEA what DIED "on the day" Adam ate the fruit, or what is made alive, RE-generated or born AGAIN at the moment of faith. Totally illogical to have NO explanation for those words, which mean things. But not to you, apparently.

You embarrass yourself with your absurd statements. And your denial of clear facts. That would be "bohu", the second Hebrew word. You just have to ignore "tohu" altogether to maintain your fantasy. When "bohu" is attached to "tohu" they mean "uninhabitable wasteland", which is how they are used in both Jer 4 and Isa 34, both which describe total destruction of land. Which is what happened to the earth and recorded in Gen 1:2. I only believe what the actual Hebrew words mean, as clearly shown in Jer 4 and Isa 34, passages that prove what "tohu wabohu" mean. Sure they do. But you, otoh, seem to be clueless about the FACT that a word never has contradictory meanings. Or, prove that they do, by giving examples. And proving that "tohu" is one of those kind of words. Everyone who can read and find biblehub.com can prove to themselves that the Hebrew words are "tohu wabohu" in Gen 1:2, Jer 4:23 and Isa 34:11. Those w0rds are "true Hebrew". No one has. They are only opinions, and have the SAME problem that you have. Their faulty understanding of Gen 1:2 which creates a GLARING contradiction with Isa 45:18 and you can't explain away, how "tohu wabohu" are used in Jer 4 and Isa 34, the only other passages where the words occur together, and you seem fine with words that describe total destruction can also be used for God's creation. You really have no understanding of how translations worked before technology. There was no way to check how ANY word was translated elsewhere. But we can because of technology. I have never suggested that anyone ignore anything in the Bible. Esp you, who keeps ignoring how "tohu wabohu" are used in Jer 4 and Isa 34. OK, typo. omnipresent. Which any thinking person would easily realize. I've already been through that. Why don't you at least read what I post? What rubbish. I read more lexicons than you, from all that you post, and what you ignore. You have ignored the facts. What doesn't matter to me is your opinion. And you can't prove anything you claim. Just another opinion of yours.

It does, and apparently in your case so does "clueless." Once again, the dictionary is not your friend. Proxima Centauri, is 4.24 light-years away. This means that it's light takes 4.24 years to reach the earth. Light from Proxima Centauri was visible on day four, the instant it was created. God made it that way.