Muslims have the same God?

[~Shalhevet~]

This is from an e-mail I had with a friend. My view is that Muslims do not have the same God. This is what her pastor told her:

Islam traces it's roots to Abraham (through Ishmael ~ his "first" son). It's just like we say the God of Judaism is the same as the God of Christianity, although with differences in terms of how we view/experience God, so with Islam.

How can they have the same God if they reject Jesus as the Messiah and have a false prophet named Mohammed?

[MorningGlory]

This is from an e-mail I had with a friend. My view is that Muslims do not have the same God. This is what her pastor told her:

Islam traces it's roots to Abraham (through Ishmael ~ his "first" son). It's just like we say the God of Judaism is the same as the God of Christianity, although with differences in terms of how we view/experience God, so with Islam.

How can they have the same God if they reject Jesus as the Messiah and have a false prophet named Mohammed?

The whole thing about islam tracing it's roots to Ishmael is rubbish. The Arabs trace their roots to Ishmael, first son of Abraham, as the Jews trace theirs to Isaac, the 2nd son. However, islam came about in the seventh century and can be traced to the moon god Ba'al, a very ancient deity in Arabia. It just so happens that most Arabs are muslims in that part of the world. Islam is a phoney religion that incorporates parts of Judaism and Christianity into it's theology. Jesus is but another prophet to them; a lesser prophet than Mohammad. As I'm fond of saying, satan tries to imitate God in all things and islam is satan's very own attempt at 'religion'. Pay close attention to the basics; 'allah' offers no salvation at all (he can't, he's not God) and the Qu'ran tells it's readers that God has no son (denying the divinity of the Messiah), that Jesus didn't die on the Cross but was only wounded (denying the Crucifixion) and therefore that He did not rise on the third day (denying the Resurrection) and that they are to make war with Christians and Jews and that the penalty for leaving islam is death. It's pretty obvious to me. You can run these facts by your friend; her pastor is seriously misinformed about islam.

[ayin jade]

If you look at the attributes of God and allah of islam, you will see clearly why they are not the same. Please show this to your friend too.

I wrote this post awhile ago, but it is a good summary of why the allah of islam is not the God we worship.

Some reasons why the allah of islam isnt the God of the bible.

1) Christians believe that God is spirit.

John 4:24 God is a spirit, and they who worship Him must worship in spirit and in truth.

Islam says God isnt spirit.

2) Our Lord is transcendent and immanent.

While both Christians and muslims believe in the transcendence of God, muslims believe He does not interact at all with mankind. We believe God is intimately involved in our lives (immanence).

3) We believe God reveals Himself, not just His law.

Islam believes that allah's will is manifested, but not allah himself. Our Lord reveals Himself all throughout the bible.

4) The Trinity.

God is God the Father, Jesus the Son, and the Holy Spirit. Islam proclaims allah has no son.

5) Our Lord loves us while we sinners.

For God so loved the world, He gave His only begotten Son. While we were yet sinners, He reached out to us in love. Yet for muslims, allah loves no sinner.

6) Our Lord does not want anyone to perish.

2 Peter 3:9 The Lord is not slow concerning His promise, as some count slowness, but is long-suffering toward us, not purposing that any of us should perish, but that all should come to repentance.

Islam says allah desires to punish people.

7) How God regards the Jews.

The Jews are Gods people. The bible tells us this. Allah of islam hates the Jews.

8) Our Lord is unchanging.

Islam believes in the doctrine of abrogation, where allah can change his mind at whim. Our Lord is unchanging.

9) Forgiveness.

We are forgiven on the basis of the atoning work of Jesus. His sacrifice (and our acceptance of Jesus) means we are forgiven and reconciled with the Lord. In islam, forgiveness by allah is based on the whim of allah. You have no way of knowing if you are forgiven or not. The only reasonably sure thing is death by martyrdom.

Allah of islam is NOT the God of Abraham, not the Lord we believe in. Islam is not an offshoot of Christianity. It is a perversion of worship of the true Lord. (Mormons do not worship the same Lord either. They have changed whom He is.)

[Blien]

This is from an e-mail I had with a friend. My view is that Muslims do not have the same God. This is what her pastor told her:

Islam traces it's roots to Abraham (through Ishmael ~ his "first" son). It's just like we say the God of Judaism is the same as the God of Christianity, although with differences in terms of how we view/experience God, so with Islam.

How can they have the same God if they reject Jesus as the Messiah and have a false prophet named Mohammed?

That pastor has never read the Koran. I would tell that lady to stop going to that church.

[Hunterpoet]

This is from an e-mail I had with a friend. My view is that Muslims do not have the same God. This is what her pastor told her:

Islam traces it's roots to Abraham (through Ishmael ~ his "first" son). It's just like we say the God of Judaism is the same as the God of Christianity, although with differences in terms of how we view/experience God, so with Islam.

How can they have the same God if they reject Jesus as the Messiah and have a false prophet named Mohammed?

The whole thing about islam tracing it's roots to Ishmael is rubbish. The Arabs trace their roots to Ishmael, first son of Abraham, as the Jews trace theirs to Isaac, the 2nd son. However, islam came about in the seventh century and can be traced to the moon god Ba'al, a very ancient deity in Arabia. It just so happens that most Arabs are muslims in that part of the world. Islam is a phoney religion that incorporates parts of Judaism and Christianity into it's theology. Jesus is but another prophet to them; a lesser prophet than Mohammad. As I'm fond of saying, satan tries to imitate God in all things and islam is satan's very own attempt at 'religion'. Pay close attention to the basics; 'allah' offers no salvation at all (he can't, he's not God) and the Qu'ran tells it's readers that God has no son (denying the divinity of the Messiah), that Jesus didn't die on the Cross but was only wounded (denying the Crucifixion) and therefore that He did not rise on the third day (denying the Resurrection) and that they are to make war with Christians and Jews and that the penalty for leaving islam is death. It's pretty obvious to me. You can run these facts by your friend; her pastor is seriously misinformed about islam.

MG...this is the best explanation I have ever read, short and to the point...especially about the distinction between Arabs and muslims( which I never realized before). Thank you.

[georgedrw81]

In another language they use the word Tuhan. Tuhan means God. It is used by muslims in conversation interchangeably with Allah unless they pray in the mosque. It is used by the christians in conversation and in the church and the in Bible translations. The twist with the word Tuhan is that when the letter order is changed it becomes the opposite.

Blessings

[vlad]

I guess there is one God for all the people on the globe but (!!!) not one God for all religions.There is the Holy Trinity with Christians. And for Cristians gods of other religions are nonexistant

[MorningGlory]

This is from an e-mail I had with a friend. My view is that Muslims do not have the same God. This is what her pastor told her:

Islam traces it's roots to Abraham (through Ishmael ~ his "first" son). It's just like we say the God of Judaism is the same as the God of Christianity, although with differences in terms of how we view/experience God, so with Islam.

How can they have the same God if they reject Jesus as the Messiah and have a false prophet named Mohammed?

The whole thing about islam tracing it's roots to Ishmael is rubbish. The Arabs trace their roots to Ishmael, first son of Abraham, as the Jews trace theirs to Isaac, the 2nd son. However, islam came about in the seventh century and can be traced to the moon god Ba'al, a very ancient deity in Arabia. It just so happens that most Arabs are muslims in that part of the world. Islam is a phoney religion that incorporates parts of Judaism and Christianity into it's theology. Jesus is but another prophet to them; a lesser prophet than Mohammad. As I'm fond of saying, satan tries to imitate God in all things and islam is satan's very own attempt at 'religion'. Pay close attention to the basics; 'allah' offers no salvation at all (he can't, he's not God) and the Qu'ran tells it's readers that God has no son (denying the divinity of the Messiah), that Jesus didn't die on the Cross but was only wounded (denying the Crucifixion) and therefore that He did not rise on the third day (denying the Resurrection) and that they are to make war with Christians and Jews and that the penalty for leaving islam is death. It's pretty obvious to me. You can run these facts by your friend; her pastor is seriously misinformed about islam.

MG...this is the best explanation I have ever read, short and to the point...especially about the distinction between Arabs and muslims( which I never realized before). Thank you.

[Guest truthorheresy_com]

Muslims have a lot of solid logical points when it comes to facing Christianity. I don't claim to know all the truth or which is the true religion. I was brought up a Christian in the US and that is WHY, I think, I am a Christian. If I were born in Arabia, for example, I would more than likely be a Muslim. If I were born in India I would most likely be a Hindu. But God is God no matter what we think about him (or her?). And I believe as the bible says that "God loved the world so much...", which includes Muslims too, even though they have a different concept of God.

Being that as it is, my God is the Christian style of god. But I believe that all religions have their own style based on how they were indoctrinated as they grew up. But no matter what you think or what your religion thinks God is has no bearing at all on what God really is.

I would say that God is the God of all mankind since he is their creator and it really makes no difference what man calls him. God created all men, no man created himself, therefore we are all creatures belonging to God. I know I didn't choose to be born or even created. I just came into this world and realized that I existed one day. No choice in that at all.

I do agree with that pastor though, that Muslims' definition of God in the Koran is much different than the Christian God. However, there are many very sincere Muslims that pray to God -- at least to the only God they know. And even though the Koran defines their God the wrong way, I believe that the one true God hears their prayers if they are sincere. I wouldn't say that God hears their prayers if for example they are asking God to destroy Jews and Christians, etc. I believe that God looks upon man's heart, not the name of the religion he's with.

On thing I have against Christianity though, is that they are so exclusive. The bible says, "...no man cometh unto the Father but by me". This is really an interpretation that gives them the right to think that their religion is the only true one, and all others are false. The truth is that the bible has been so corrupted that it is astounding that people can actually call it the "word of God". There are so many things in it that God would NEVER have said. Now there are things that man said that God said, that in all probability he didn't really say. And that is most likely the reason that Jesus said things like, "ye have heard that it has been said.... but I say unto you...".

If God is the source of all Truth and Jesus came to the world to bring the Light of God's Truth, then there couldn't possibly be any any one "true" religion in the world. Jesus said that God so loved the WORLD, not only a few million bible toting Westerners. If Jesus is the Truth, then God sent the Truth to all people, everywhere throughout all times -- not to just a few Hebrews.

I can not see eye to eye with everything that it says in the Koran, but I couldn't expect them to accept everything written in the bible either -- and I wouldn't want them to. There is just too much in there that simply couldn't be true!

There is no one religion that could be called the true religion since there is no one religion that has come to such a point. This is obvious if you just take a quick look around at the world and you see that it is mainly religion that has caused so much suffering around the world.

But I think that each religion has truths that other religions don't have. If all religions could be more reasonable and rational with one another and be more tolerant of each other, the world would be a much better place. And if we could all just learn to practice all the good points that our religions have to offer and try to stop the suffering of the innocent and most of ALL stop this senseless war and violence, basically caused by differences in religious beliefs!

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[ayin jade]

I hope you come to know the saving grace of Jesus one day.