Do you believe in hell as an eternal torment?

[Ervin]

Hi everyone. I have a question that I really need to find the answer to and that is does the bible teach eternal non existence as a final punishment or eternal torment?

It seems as if you can sort of interpret the bible as either. But then again maybe you can't.

Please enlighten me with your knowledge!

Thanks

[Gael]

Hell is a very real place and it is a place of eternal torment for those who reject the Lord Jesus.

Luke 16:19-31

Mark 9:43-48

Revelation 20:10-15

There is nowhere in the Bible that speaks of a place of non-existence after death that I have ever seen.

[OneLight]

I hope to enlighten you with His words, not my intelligence.

Three times in Mark 9 we read:

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Their worm does not die

And the fire is not quenched.

"

This is from Isaiah 66:24

“

And they shall go forth and look

Upon the corpses of the men

Who have transgressed against Me.

For their worm does not die,

And their fire is not quenched.

They shall be an abhorrence to all flesh.

”

We also read in 2 Peter 12:17, when speaking about false teachers:

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These are wells without water, clouds carried by a tempest, for whom is reserved the blackness of darkness forever.

"

And in Jude 1:12-13

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These are spots in your love feasts, while they feast with you without fear, serving only themselves. They are clouds without water, carried about by the winds; late autumn trees without fruit, twice dead, pulled up by the roots; raging waves of the sea, foaming up their own shame; wandering stars for whom is reserved the blackness of darkness forever.

"

Revelation 20:10 speaks of the Lake of Fire and Brimstone

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The devil, who deceived them, was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone where the beast and the false prophet are. And they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.

"

Than we read more about who will join them in Revelation 20:14-15

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Then Death and Hades were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. And anyone not found written in the Book of Life was cast into the lake of fire.

"

As always, look the verses up and read them in context for a better understanding.

[Littlelambseativy]

Can't say it better than has been said above.

[He giveth more grace]

"Their worm does not die..."

"but I am a worm, and no man..."

Te soul without God is refered to in the Bible as a worm, it is just an empty soul with nothing good about it.

"...the worm is spread under thee, and the worms cover thee." -multitudes in hell.

This is me, not Scripture, when hell is casted into the lake of fire, I think that that means, in the end, souls with their ressurected bodies will be cast into the magma of the Earth's core, how much torment would that be, but that is just me, I want to make that crystal.

[MorningGlory]

Hi everyone. I have a question that I really need to find the answer to and that is does the bible teach eternal non existence as a final punishment or eternal torment?

It seems as if you can sort of interpret the bible as either. But then again maybe you can't.

Please enlighten me with your knowledge!

Thanks

I believe this should answer your question, Ervin....

Matt 25:41 "Then He will also say to those on His left, 'Depart from Me, accursed ones, into the eternal fire which has been prepared for the devil and his angels ; 42 for I was hungry, and you gave Me [nothing] to eat; I was thirsty, and you gave Me nothing to drink; 43 I was a stranger, and you did not invite Me in; naked, and you did not clothe Me; sick, and in prison, and you did not visit Me.' 44 "Then they themselves also will answer, saying, 'Lord, when did we see You hungry, or thirsty, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not take care of You?' 45 "Then He will answer them, saying, 'Truly I say to you, to the extent that you did not do it to one of the least of these, you did not do it to Me.' 46 " And these will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life."

[Ervin]

Thank you very much everyone. I still have to ask what about the verses that say that wages of sin is death and all this other stuff that Jehovah's witnesses talk about?

Thanks

[~candice~]

Thank you very much everyone. I still have to ask what about the verses that say that wages of sin is death and all this other stuff that Jehovah's witnesses talk about?

Thanks

That verse is a genuine part of the Bible (Ro 6:23). Yes, we have all sinned, and therefore fallen from the state of perfection required, and the only way back is through Jesus Christ.

[OldShep]

Thank you very much everyone. I still have to ask what about the verses that say that wages of sin is death and all this other stuff that Jehovah's witnesses talk about?

Thanks

Beware:

The Jehovah's witnesses, rewrote the Bible, making their own, because they could not stand the Truth found in the ones that have been around for a few hundred years.

ICL~~~Dennis

[JohnD]

Hi everyone. I have a question that I really need to find the answer to and that is does the bible teach eternal non existence as a final punishment or eternal torment?

It seems as if you can sort of interpret the bible as either. But then again maybe you can't.

Please enlighten me with your knowledge!

Thanks

Spirits cannot die.

Since angels are just spirits they cannot be redeemed. That's why their belief in Christ makes no difference about their eternal destination once the eternal spirits sin.

Humanity can be redeemed because we can die in the flesh. Human beings are not just flesh. We have spirits in our bodies. When the bodies of unbelievers are burned up in the lake of fire (the second death) their spirits will continue on in that place. And from Luke 16:19-31 we can deduce spirits can feel pain. So, yes there is an eternal condemnation for unbelieving spirits and fallen angelic spirits. The Bible says so.

Beware the Jehovah's Witnesses. They teach a false Jesus.

Galatians 1:8-9 (NASB95)

8 But even if we, or an angel from heaven, should preach to you a gospel contrary to what we have preached to you, he is to be accursed!

9 As we have said before, so I say again now, if any man is preaching to you a gospel contrary to what you received, he is to be accursed!

2 Corinthians 11:3-4 (NASB95)

3 But I am afraid that, as the serpent deceived Eve by his craftiness, your minds will be led astray from the simplicity and purity of devotion to Christ.

4 For if one comes and preaches another Jesus whom we have not preached, or you receive a different spirit which you have not received, or a different gospel which you have not accepted, you bear this beautifully.