unity at the cost of doctrine

[IreneM]

if you don't think the catholics worship mary find the words to the rosiery

The price was paid to God!!!!

2 post responses in one sorry

In Christ

IreneM

[nebula]

In the old testament a lamb was sacrificed for the sins of the jews

Jesus became our sacrifice  He paid the price for our sin DEATH 

We now have Eternal life because of His Death on the Cross

He was the blood sacrifice for our sin as the lamb was in the old testament

In Christ

IreneM

If it was a payment, to whom was the payment made?

Was it God? (Jesus paying "Himself")

Was it Satan? (God "owes" Satan something?)

Paid the Law, perhaps?

[other one]

I will say it. You must be baptized to be saved. Just like Mark 16:16 and many other texts say. Romans 6 is clear that we are united with Christ when we are baptized with water.

I have a question for you then. When I was a junior in high school our star baseball pitcher went up in fron of the church and professed his belief in Christ and dedicated his life to Christ. He was to be baptized that night and was killed in a car crash that afternoon........ is he not going to have any chance to go to heaven or will he go to hell just because he died before he was baptised????

[ayin jade]

I have a question for you then. When I was a junior in high school our star baseball pitcher went up in fron of the church and professed his belief in Christ and dedicated his life to Christ. He was to be baptized that night and was killed in a car crash that afternoon........ is he not going to have any chance to go to heaven or will he go to hell just because he died before he was baptised????

Jesus saves, not baptism. Baptism is important to a beleiver, but it is not what salvation is based on.

[larryt]

In the old testament a lamb was sacrificed for the sins of the jews

Jesus became our sacrifice  He paid the price for our sin DEATH 

We now have Eternal life because of His Death on the Cross

He was the blood sacrifice for our sin as the lamb was in the old testament

In Christ

IreneM

If it was a payment, to whom was the payment made?

Was it God? (Jesus paying "Himself")

Was it Satan? (God "owes" Satan something?)

Hi Dime,

He paid the debt that man owed to God. As in the Father.

1Cor. 15:23  But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ

[Fr Chuck]

Yes and Yes

Doctrine that is in line with the Gospel is important, and yes we are still all brothers in Chrsit even if we differ on many doctrine issues.

The Jews and the Gentiles differed greatly on doctrine, but they were still all brothers in Chrsit. So to would Baptist and Penticostals and Catholics,

Same saving faith, different doctrines, all brothers in Christ.

[nebula]

It was from a Lutheran congregation that I came to know the Lord growing up.

It was a Baptist youth group from whom I received a much needed "cup of fresh water" while on a retreat with a friend.

It was a Presbyterian who became a steadfast friend for me in high school.

It was a few Mennonites, a couple Assemblies of God'ers, and other various interdenom. people who formed my prayer group in college.

It was a Bretheren in Christ member who gave me much needed strength and encouragement during those years as well.

It was Nazarine denom. girl who blessed me as a roommate.

It was a Methodist minister who assisted me at a ministry in the National parks I participated in one summer.

There comes a point when denominational differences are truly meaningless - and the fact that "we belong to Jesus" is what truly matters.

[Yahsway]

very well said nebula

[Khristeeanos]

The price was paid to God!!!!

So God paid Himself?

Is that what you believe?

I thought we were slaves to sin and death, which means sin and death had control of us.

Nebula wrote:

Paid the Law, perhaps?

See above - we were "owned" by sin, which leads to death.

We didn't belong to God.

[Khristeeanos]

I have a question for you then. When I was a junior in high school our star baseball pitcher went up in fron of the church and professed his belief in Christ and dedicated his life to Christ. He was to be baptized that night and was killed in a car crash that afternoon........ is he not going to have any chance to go to heaven or will he go to hell just because he died before he was baptised????

It doesn't matter what I say or what I believe. All that matters is what the Bible says.

And I could ask a similiar question.

Say a person is lost and then a neighbor invites him to church and he decides to go. He is skeptical and yet decides to go back.

He does and eventually says in his mind that "next week" he is going to become a Christian.

He dies on the way to the church.

Is he then saved?