Parents long ago stood in long lines with their children to see Santa

[Guest man]

 

 

Go ahead and pick apart.   The point is that I gave the example because I knew that without the example my words could be taken wrong.   So you decide to spin my comments the wrong way anyway.  You purposely and knowingly accused me falsely of something I didn't intend.  Yeah, so go ahead and try to pick it apart.

 

 

 

 

No.   It would cross the line into a lie if the parents attempt to convince a child that Santa is real after the child has figured out that Santa isn't real.  If they try to perpetuate the Santa myth at the point when it is time to stop, then it crosses the line.

 

My Dad once tried to dress up as a monster to have a little fun with me when I was a kid. Once I figured out it was him, the jig was up and he had to stop.  Had he continued and endeavored to convince me that he really was who he was portraying and intentionally convinced me of that, then it would have been an act of deception.

 

Santa Claus and Rudolph are make believe and children and parents play along because it's fun.  That's it. 

 

 

 

 

What is "the jig" and why did it have "to stop"?

 

I contend the "jig" is your dad's intentional deception and it had to stop because you knew he was being deceitful towards you.

 

He wasn't being decietful in the sense you are trying to spin it.   It was a game and I knew it was a game.  I didn't take it as a lie or an act of deception.  I was intelligent enough to know the difference. 

 

Unfortunately, you feel the need to spin it as a lie just to have something to argue about. Most of us can intuitively tell the difference between make-believe and a lie.  You and some others are trying to muddy the waters on the issue.

 

I guess you really didn't have anything to pick apart after all.

 

 

 

You didn't answer the questions. 

 

 

What is "the jig" and why did it have "to stop"?     

[Qnts2]

 

 

 

Go ahead and pick apart.   The point is that I gave the example because I knew that without the example my words could be taken wrong.   So you decide to spin my comments the wrong way anyway.  You purposely and knowingly accused me falsely of something I didn't intend.  Yeah, so go ahead and try to pick it apart.

 

 

 

 

No.   It would cross the line into a lie if the parents attempt to convince a child that Santa is real after the child has figured out that Santa isn't real.  If they try to perpetuate the Santa myth at the point when it is time to stop, then it crosses the line.

 

My Dad once tried to dress up as a monster to have a little fun with me when I was a kid. Once I figured out it was him, the jig was up and he had to stop.  Had he continued and endeavored to convince me that he really was who he was portraying and intentionally convinced me of that, then it would have been an act of deception.

 

Santa Claus and Rudolph are make believe and children and parents play along because it's fun.  That's it. 

 

 

 

 

What is "the jig" and why did it have "to stop"?

 

I contend the "jig" is your dad's intentional deception and it had to stop because you knew he was being deceitful towards you.

 

He wasn't being decietful in the sense you are trying to spin it.   It was a game and I knew it was a game.  I didn't take it as a lie or an act of deception.  I was intelligent enough to know the difference. 

 

Unfortunately, you feel the need to spin it as a lie just to have something to argue about. Most of us can intuitively tell the difference between make-believe and a lie.  You and some others are trying to muddy the waters on the issue.

 

I guess you really didn't have anything to pick apart after all.

 

 

 

You didn't answer the questions. 

 

 

What is "the jig" and why did it have "to stop"?     

 

''Jig' is a very old term for a lively dance, but in Elizabethan times the word became slang for a practical joke or a trick'. From a site which explains old sayings.

 

I work in computers. It was a tradition that when a newbie would start work in the computer room, they were told at some point that the phone company had to clean the phone lines. They blow the dust out of the phone lines. Because some dust might come thru the phones hand set, all of the phone hand sets in the computer room had to be put in plastic bags so dust would not get into the computer room. Of course that assignment would fall on the newbie.

 

Some fell for it, and we would come in the next day to find all of the phones hand sets neatly tied in baggies. Others wouldn't fall for the joke so 'the jig was up'.

[1x1is1]

It's not even Thanksgiving yet, and the annual "Christmas is Evil" thread has started . . .

 

So I'll have a go:

 

I knew Santa, the Easter bunny, and all that was a myth when I was a kid, but the holidays were still fun. As much fun as you can have growing up in an essentially non-religious household anyway. I didn't go off the deep end when I figured it out that Santa, etc. were not real. I suppose part of that was noticing the same things Otherone mentioned.

 

Walla.....Are you saying that this topic happens every year in here?  I did not suspect that one, but now I see attraction after reading most of the posts.  I do agree with your memory of it.  And the same goes for Otherone's comment.  This is still interesting tho.  Today this is my safe room or "fallout shelter" from the "nuclear option" in the Senate.  It is a blessing to be among fellow believers.   

[mom2PSmith]

I hope that whatever stand one takes on the "Santa" issue, Jesus would always be the focus of Christmas! He alone is worthy of worship and praise.

Edited November 21, 2013 by mom2PSmith

[OakWood]

This thread is turning into a dogfight. If you don't behave yourself, boys and girls, Santa won't bring you any presents!

[1x1is1]

This thread is turning into a dogfight. If you don't behave yourself, boys and girls, Santa won't bring you any presents!

Ha Ha how appropriate....well said

[other one]

This thread is turning into a dogfight. If you don't behave yourself, boys and girls, Santa won't bring you any presents!

sorry dude never brought me the kind of things he brought to those kids down the road.......   they got spankings all the time and I never needed them.....   so I thought Santa was a rat.......   first time I cursed in front of my mother was about that situation.....   called him a sob in front of mom, and after she sneaked off and laughed for a bit to herself she came back, washed my mouth out and told me all about the deception and where the presents really came from......   Lordy, I do hate that taste of lye soap.  special made by the loving hands of a really cool grandmother for just such occasions.   Must have been about five years old.

[Guest shiloh357]

 

 

 

Go ahead and pick apart.   The point is that I gave the example because I knew that without the example my words could be taken wrong.   So you decide to spin my comments the wrong way anyway.  You purposely and knowingly accused me falsely of something I didn't intend.  Yeah, so go ahead and try to pick it apart.

 

 

 

 

No.   It would cross the line into a lie if the parents attempt to convince a child that Santa is real after the child has figured out that Santa isn't real.  If they try to perpetuate the Santa myth at the point when it is time to stop, then it crosses the line.

 

My Dad once tried to dress up as a monster to have a little fun with me when I was a kid. Once I figured out it was him, the jig was up and he had to stop.  Had he continued and endeavored to convince me that he really was who he was portraying and intentionally convinced me of that, then it would have been an act of deception.

 

Santa Claus and Rudolph are make believe and children and parents play along because it's fun.  That's it. 

 

 

 

 

What is "the jig" and why did it have "to stop"?

 

I contend the "jig" is your dad's intentional deception and it had to stop because you knew he was being deceitful towards you.

 

He wasn't being decietful in the sense you are trying to spin it.   It was a game and I knew it was a game.  I didn't take it as a lie or an act of deception.  I was intelligent enough to know the difference. 

 

Unfortunately, you feel the need to spin it as a lie just to have something to argue about. Most of us can intuitively tell the difference between make-believe and a lie.  You and some others are trying to muddy the waters on the issue.

 

I guess you really didn't have anything to pick apart after all.

 

 

 

You didn't answer the questions. 

 

 

What is "the jig" and why did it have "to stop"?     

 

I can't believe you are really that obtuse. 

[Guest man]

I can't believe you are really that obtuse. 

 

 

Yeah, I wouldn't answer those questions either. If you did you'd have to admit something about yourself. 

[MissPlaced_56]

Good Evening Brothers and Sisters

And that's exactly what we are Brothers & Sisters IN CHRIST JESUS!

 

This thread has been At times alot of fun....and at times it's been a battle ground..

 

Discussion is healthy, BUT treating each other with contempt ISN"T.

 

How about treating each other with some respect and compassion....

not one of us is gonna agree about anything all the time, thats a given

BUT it's how we go about disagreeing thats important!

WE all bring something different to the table,thats the wonderful thing about a discussion,hurting one another has no merit at all.

here's something for us all to think about..

 

“I've learned that no matter what happens, or how bad it seems today, life does go on, and it will be better tomorrow. I've learned that you can tell a lot about a person by the way he/she handles these three things: a rainy day, lost luggage, and tangled Christmas tree lights. I've learned that regardless of your relationship with your parents, you'll miss them when they're gone from your life. I've learned that making a "living" is not the same thing as making a "life." I've learned that life sometimes gives you a second chance. I've learned that you shouldn't go through life with a catcher's mitt on both hands; you need to be able to throw something back. I've learned that whenever I decide something with an open heart, I usually make the right decision. I've learned that even when I have pains, I don't have to be one. I've learned that every day you should reach out and touch someone. People love a warm hug, or just a friendly pat on the back. I've learned that I still have a lot to learn. I've learned that people will forget what you said, people will forget what you did, but people will never forget how you made them feel.”
― Maya Angelou

GBU US ALL!

~~~Miss~~~