Is this God?

[Skyes]

Bravo Fez!!!!!! Amen Brother!!!!

 

Dear Skyes....

     I do believe you would like very much for God to fit into the little box that you have  reserved for Him.......does not work that way ,my friend,,,,,the most blunt,to the point & sincere reply I have read is probably the one you do not wish to entertain,by Fez,,,,

   My beloved Brothers & Sisters are trying to do their very best to show you love and be kind & mean while I just get the feeling that it may be just a little funny to you,,,,,,,you refuse to submit to Christ Lordship,you reject the Word of God ,by your own admission God is not first ,,,,,what do you expect from the God that offers you His Grace by your faith in His Only Begotten Son?

    God gave you free will & you are doing everything in complete opposition to Gods Word....go for it,He will never stand in the way of what you choose but then don't come crying"Why doesn't God just heal me?" Seriously?

    When you come into the realization that you NEED Him & drop to your knees,your life will change & I do pray that your eyes are opened while there is still breath in your body.....RUN TO THE LORD WHILE HE CAN STILL BE FOUND!                                  Love,Kwik

I don't think you have read my other posts. I went to the church since I was a little kid, until I was 20 years old. I am baptized, played in the youth group, and so on. I have accepted Jesus, read the bible, worshipped Him oftenly through songs (I loved Hillsong) and other means, etc. But that never proved me he existed. He never spoke to me, I never heard His voice. I felt Him close tho. But I need more than that. I want to understand Him. 

Today, I don't do any of these things, and I still feel Him close.

Saying to submit is just a way of your own mind to feel safe and protected, thinking now you are saved by God. That is not what I am looking for. All of you are telling me to do things that I have already done, and that never changed anything in my life. 

[Hall7]

. But I don't see the bible or the gospel in the same way anymore.

Hello Skyes... I am also another who went through something similar as you are going through. I went through all the same symptoms of doubt as you are having, and the more I searched through other means than God, the more my faith in God weakened. Have you noticed that your train of thought has changed ever since you began to be involved in wanting to find out the truth about the universe through other means than God?

Many illusions are being created in your mind and life at this time, that's how the forbidden spiritual realms begin to overwhelm ones spirit, mind and life. The enemy is a master of illusions, it will eventually make everything that is bad for the spirit look good, and everything that is good for the spirit look bad; until the spirit, mind and soul are completely consumed by darkness, by the false light... I would recommend taking everyone's above advice, it's the only way out of this, and the longer you wait the harder it becomes to reprogram your mind to it's original self. It will be a battle to rid yourself of what you've filled yourself with, but all battles are won through the power of the Holy Spirit and there is nothing God cannot do when we completely surrender to Him. Look at Otherone and I, we more or less once were where you are, but now we are free and able to relate and understand what people like you are going through when they involve themselves in the ungodly spiritual realm. I hope that one day you can help others as well with what you are learning from this experience.

God be with you...

Thank you for your concerning, friend

Could I ask you, how does God talk to you?

Through His Holy Spirit which dwells in me.

[Skyes]

 

Through His Holy Spirit which dwells in me.

 

Sorry, but I didn't understand that.

Care to explain a bit more for me? For example, you applied for a job and you got an interview, but you want to know of this is a good job and if it is the will of God for you to work there. How do you get your response?

[Hall7]

Through His Holy Spirit which dwells in me.

Sorry, but I didn't understand that.

Care to explain a bit more for me? For example, you applied for a job and you got an interview, but you want to know of this is a good job and if it is the will of God for you to work there. How do you get your response?

Sure, I can do that for you. By the way, have you ever felt the Holy Spirit or know what it feels like? The feeling of being renewed and a new person washed and cleansed from all past burdens, illness and sins? Its a great feeling...

God speaks to us through our hearts and our spirits in which speak to our minds to make the right decisions in life. When we fill ourselves with the Word of God and prayer daily, a renewal of the old self takes place on the inside, we no longer live according to our flesh or according to our worldly thoughts that used to make decisions for us, the Spirit of God within us takes over our spirit and mind, His Spirit which is the Holy Spirit help us to make important decisions in our lives. Every Christian constantly has a battle between flesh and spirit because they are always at war with eachother due to us being part of this world (for now). It's important to understand this in order to make the right decisions in life.

Let's take the example you've given me...How would I know if a certain type of job would be God's will for me. First, I would have to examine my spirit before the job interview. Is my spirit at peace with God? is He in control of my life at this time? Is my spirit attracted to the world more than God? Could the type of job I'm applying for affect my spiritual life in any way? Is pride involved with my decision to want to have this particular job? etc..

When living according to the Spirit of God, All of these thoughts are automatically deciphered and put into a category between spirit and flesh. All worldly thoughts are from the flesh and all spiritual thoughts in which are good for the spirit are of God. That's how God speaks to us most of the time, He makes it feel in our hearts and spirit through His Spirit which are the right decisions to take in our lives.

I've stumbled many times in the past by making decisions out of my own mind when I was distant from God. God never distant' Himself from us, it is always us who distance ourselves from Him. Some will say "why doesn't He listen to me anymore, why is it that it feels like He Has abandoned me?"... Its never Him, it's us who lower our spirits to the world at times, an since God isn't of the world it feels like He isn't here for us. And when that happens we must elevate our spirits back to Him, by the means of prayer, reading His word, and most of all surrendering ourselves completely to Him by letting go of the things of this world in order to live by His Spirit and not by the worldly flesh.

[zhavoney]

Hello everyone. I am new here, and I like the forum so far.

I am 25, and have pure O OCD (purely obsessive), so it feels like my mind is my ''enemy'', and never leaves me alone or in peace. It keeps giving my horrific images, thoughts and scenes all the time.

I am extremelly anxious as well, wich is the cause for the OCD.

So, after a few years, I learned that whenever I prayed asking God to relieve me from this pain, He did, instantly. It seemed like He placed His hands in my head an pulled all the negative thoughts and energy out. It seemed like magic.

It also happens in other situations where I suffer, as in relationships, for example. I suffer a LOT in relationships. If I like a girl and she doesn't like me back, I just happen to sit in my room and cry for weeks, and It takes more than a year for me to forget her (it happenned 3 times already, with 3 different girls). So, I found out that if I pray to God, asking him to relieve me of that pain, He also does the same. I feel instantly at peace. But it is a constant struggle. I have to repeat the prayer everytime I think of her or that I feel bad, or have intrusive thoughts (caused by the OCD).

The question is, is this really God? Or could this be my own mind playing tricks with me?

If it is God, why do I have to keep constantly asking for His help, as if it was a duel of magic against my own mind? Why don't He already relieve me from my torment forever?

How can I get closer to Him, if that is the case? I have tried many things, but I feel like I am far away from Him. I read the bible, I pray a lot every day, I do fastings of all kind. Even stood eating only rice and bread for a week. I felt really close to Him that time, tho.

I also fear that if I pray too much and "abuse" this "power", I will get addicted to it and it won't work anymore, or I will stop living life as a normal, thinking human.

 

Anyway, sorry for the wall of text. I had to get it out of my chest. I hope I can get some opinions on this. Anything will be greatly appreciated. But no flaming, please.

 

God bless.

 

I went through these same types of scenarios. What ended the unknowing and doubt  for me was when I asked  God to fill me with His Holy Spirit. It took a while but I kept asking. 

[kwikphilly]

Dear Skyes....

   What can I say  "Don't shoot the messenger"  Nobody here is telling you to DO anything,we are merely passing on what the Word of God says....though you say you have read it ,it does not seem you have received any revelation ,,,,IDK?

   You see,when we/I say ,,,,"submit" or "commit" or "surrender"....that is really when you come to that realization that you are not DOING anything but letting go of yourself,your will,your heart,your mind,your soul.......it doesn't matter if you were born in the church or in the gutter,doesn't matter if you read the Bible 18 hrs a day or never learned to read.....God is not a respecter of persons......He looks at the earnest heart,the one humbled,asking forgiveness,in need of Him & willing to repent & forsake their own will,,,,,,,are you that person?

    Perhaps you are very close to the Truth,talking about what you have been taught & knowing it is not that simple,,,,john 3:16 is not just words    "Whosoever believes in Him,SHOULD not perish...."   That word "should" gives us a hint that there is more to it than simply saying "I believe"......you said you're not even sure He exists......Skyes,if you EVER met Jesus,there would be no doubt in your mind. Is a person really forsaking their own will to someone they doubt exists?

    There is something else to,I think you are looking to "feel" something exraordinary,magical,supernatural,,,,,,,,nothing about a relationship with God can be built on feelings,it is all about knowing,believing & faith........as long as you are sitting on the fence & dabbling in curiosity with every other god of this world you are going to be deceived & blinded......the enemy will satisfy your every temporal & fleshly desire,,,you can see magical things,you can hear voices,you can touch worldly treasures & you can feel many pleasurable  things...............with God Almighty,we walk by FAITH & not by sight,,,,,,,,,,He wants to be earnestly sought,He wants to be FIRST & above all,,,,,,,He is Sovereign God Almighty & He will have Mercy on who He will have Mercy on.....everything is on His terms & His terms alone......yet,He loves you

                                                                                    With love-in Christ,Kwik

[OneLight]

You trusted in your works, not in God.  God knows the inner most desires we have, and is interested in creating in you a new creations where the old man dies and the new creation lives.  It is God who does the work, not us.  If we could do it ourselves, there would be no need for Christ to of come, and no salvation from our sins.  Scripture tells us our righteousness are as filthy rags.  We can never be "good enough".

 

So you understand, mans doctrine is not embedded deep in me.  His words are.  So you also further understand, I have seldom been in a church, except for short periods of time.  I rely on a relationship with Him, not the doctrine of denominations.  Be sure of what you say before saying it.

How do you know that? You can't say that without knowing it. I did trust in God, more than anything. I still do.

 

You still think the bible is God's words, and that it is irrefutable, wich is prety sad. Most crimes commited by the catholic church in the inquisition derive from the same perspective. The muslims also use the Quran in the same way to explode people and go to "heaven", or the Torah, and so on. That is the problem. People don't think with their own minds anymore, they blindly belive in a book, and wage war against each other to proove wich book is the true God's word. It's quite sad, to be honest.

 

And about your second comment, I never mentioned denominations. Read my post before saying it. And I am fairly sure you carry at least one preach from a pastor to base yourself with.

I know that you trust in your own works by how many times you mentioned what you did compared to haw many times you mentioned how Christ worked through you. Count the "I" statements.

Your example of how men use religion to do horrific things is not disputable, but what you seem to not realize is that anyone can call themselves Christian or Muslim, but completely miss what the books are saying. Those who are real Christians allow the Holy Spirit to create in them a new creation, one like Jesus. Those who do such monstrosities are not being led by God, but men. You really cannot blame scripture for how people abuse it. You clearly show the side of religion without showing the side of a relationship with God.

As for not mentioning denominations, then explain what you meant by "and the "gospel" preached by your pastors and leaders". This sure sounds like speaking about denominations since a pastor has to have a church denomination, even if it is called a nondenominational church. Perhaps you should read your own word as others will read them before posting to ensure what you want to say is what you are saying.

[Sevenseas]

 

Bravo Fez!!!!!! Amen Brother!!!!

 

Dear Skyes....

     I do believe you would like very much for God to fit into the little box that you have  reserved for Him.......does not work that way ,my friend,,,,,the most blunt,to the point & sincere reply I have read is probably the one you do not wish to entertain,by Fez,,,,

   My beloved Brothers & Sisters are trying to do their very best to show you love and be kind & mean while I just get the feeling that it may be just a little funny to you,,,,,,,you refuse to submit to Christ Lordship,you reject the Word of God ,by your own admission God is not first ,,,,,what do you expect from the God that offers you His Grace by your faith in His Only Begotten Son?

    God gave you free will & you are doing everything in complete opposition to Gods Word....go for it,He will never stand in the way of what you choose but then don't come crying"Why doesn't God just heal me?" Seriously?

    When you come into the realization that you NEED Him & drop to your knees,your life will change & I do pray that your eyes are opened while there is still breath in your body.....RUN TO THE LORD WHILE HE CAN STILL BE FOUND!                                  Love,Kwik

I don't think you have read my other posts. I went to the church since I was a little kid, until I was 20 years old. I am baptized, played in the youth group, and so on. I have accepted Jesus, read the bible, worshipped Him oftenly through songs (I loved Hillsong) and other means, etc. But that never proved me he existed. He never spoke to me, I never heard His voice. I felt Him close tho. But I need more than that. I want to understand Him. 

Today, I don't do any of these things, and I still feel Him close.

Saying to submit is just a way of your own mind to feel safe and protected, thinking now you are saved by God. That is not what I am looking for. All of you are telling me to do things that I have already done, and that never changed anything in my life. 

 

 

I'm not really sure what it is you do actually want, but I don't think we have heard it yet.

 

I have read your posts .. please don't hold back

[Fez]

God is not a ATM, an Auto Teller.

 

We don't put prayers in and expect answers out. We know the teller is there, we accept it can do what it does, we trust it will deliver what we ask, but we only go to it when we need it. That is how many people view their "faith" today.

 

We are in the dry period here at the moment. i have just come out of the Kruger National Park, 19,000 square miles God's creation. Everything is dry, brittle, dusty, even along the river edges (some rivers are dry). But in this grey, dry environment, along the river beds, stands every now and again a giant Sycamore Fig tree. They are huge, and beautiful and bright green with leaves. They stand out because of their bright green leaves and their towering size. Underneath of Sudwala mountain there are caves 180 feet deep beneath the rock that stretch back miles. When you look up at the roof of the caves you can see roots from a towering fig 180 feet above that reach down through the rock into the cave for water.

 

Want to know what faith really is? Want to know what a true relationship with God is?

 

Look at the Sycamore Fig and its roots, not the ATM.

 

I can post scripture about barren soils, and rich soils, but you get the picture..

[kwikphilly]

Blessings Brother Fez

        What can I say?   Awesome post Brother........Glory be to our Father!!!

                                                                                     With love-in Christ,Kwik