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So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God. Romans 10:17

 

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Thy words were found, and I did eat them; and thy word was unto me the joy and rejoicing of mine heart: for I am called by thy name, O LORD God of hosts. Jeremiah 15:16

 

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And Jesus answered him, saying, It is written, That man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word of God. Luke 4:4

 

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Let no man beguile you of your reward in a voluntary humility and worshipping of angels, intruding into those things which he hath not seen, vainly puffed up by his fleshly mind, Colossians 2:18

 

The Bible never mentions an angel named Phanuel, let alone an angel who is set over the repentance of those who inherit eternal life.  What blasphemy!  That statement in itself contradicts everything the Word of God teaches.  We read in 1st Timothy 2:5 that Jesus Christ is the ONLY Mediator between God and men, not some angel named Phanuel... "For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus."  Repentance is strictly between a man and Jesus Christ alone.  Only Jesus died for our sins, and shed His blood to pay for them (1st Peter 1:18-19); therefore, we must be diligent to guard and defend against LIARS and imposters who would lead people to believe otherwise.  1st John 2:22 clearly indicts all Christ-deniers as LIARS, guilty before God. 

 

seen and whose words I have heard and written down?’ And he said to me: ‘This first is Michael, the merciful and long-suffering: and the second, who is set over all the diseases and all the wounds of the children of men, is Raphael: and the third, who is set over all the powers, is Gabriel: and the fourth, who is set over the repentance unto hope of those who inherit eternal life, is named Phanuel.’

 

And these are the four angels of the Lord of Spirits and the four voices I heard in those days. Enoch 40:9-10

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Then said I, Woe is me! for I am undone; because I am a man of unclean lips, and I dwell in the midst of a people of unclean lips: for mine eyes have seen the King, the LORD of hosts.

 

Then flew one of the seraphims unto me, having a live coal in his hand, which he had taken with the tongs from off the altar:

 

And he laid it upon my mouth, and said, Lo, this hath touched thy lips; and thine iniquity is taken away, and thy sin purged.

 

Also I heard the voice of the Lord, saying, Whom shall I send, and who will go for us? Then said I, Here am I; send me. Isaiah 6:5-8

 

Was the Son of Man named?  When was Jesus named in Heaven?  This is an attack on the deity of Jesus.  Jesus Himself claimed in Revelation 1:8, "I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty."  Jesus is Eternal, without beginning or end.  Head of Days?  Lord of Spirits?  These terms are NOT found in the Bible.  IF the Book of Enoch were valid, composing well over 100 chapters, there should be numerous New Testament references to it; but there aren't.  Although some people claim that the Bible quotes the Book of Enoch over 100 times, this is simply not true.  Just as the Qur'an, the Book of Enoch borrows from the Word of God.  In sharp contrast to the Book of Enoch, the New Testament often quotes the Book of Genesis. 
 

And in that place I saw the fountain of righteousness Which was inexhaustible: And around it were many fountains of wisdom: And all the thirsty drank of them, And were filled with wisdom, And their dwellings were with the righteous and holy and elect.

 

And at that hour that Son of Man was named In the presence of the Lord of Spirits, And his name before the Head of Days.

 

Yea, before the sun and the signs were created, Before the stars of the heaven were made, His name was named before the Lord of Spirits. Enoch 48:1-3

 

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For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven. Matthew 22:30

 

Without a doubt, the primary claim of the Book of Enoch is that fallen angels had sex with human women and produced 450-feet tall giants upon the earth.  This teaching is ridiculous, unscriptural, and has no solid evidence to support it (Biblically or scientifically).  This is another good reason why the Book of Enoch should continue to be rejected.  It is nonsense.  Also, notice in 69:6 above that the Book of Enoch claims that a demon named Gadreel led Eve astray and introduced weaponry to mankind.  How absurd.  The Bible identifies the serpent which deceived Eve in the Garden of Eden as Satan (Ezekiel 28:13

The name of the first Jeqon: that is, the one who led astray [all] the sons of God, and brought them
 

down to the earth, and led them astray through the daughters of men. And the second was named Asbeel: he imparted to the holy sons of God evil counsel, and led them astray so that they defiled
 

their bodies with the daughters of men. And the third was named Gadreel: he it is who showed the children of men all the blows of death, and he led astray Eve, and showed [the weapons of death to the sons of men] the shield and the coat of mail, and the sword for battle, and all the weapons. Enoch 69:4-6

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And Slander Our Beloved Mother, Eve

 

And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the LORD.

 

And she again bare his brother Abel. And Abel was a keeper of sheep, but Cain was a tiller of the ground. Genesis 4:1-2

 

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These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so. Acts 17:11

 

Love, Your Brother Joe

[FreeinChrist]

 

Why has God allow the devil to continue ?

I believe that God could take Satan out anytime he chose and stop all this madness 

when satan sin in heaven first why did God allow him in the garden of eden and not prevent him from going there 

 

Why has God allow the devil to continue ?  Why did not God kill the devil the moment he sin ?

 

 

As stated many times God wanted to give us a choice, because God wants His creation to choice to love Him, not to be like a robot.  But no God was not surprise He even reveals in the Creation Story His wonderful redemption plan.   Speaking to satan the serpent, He states:  And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed, and her seed: it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise His Heel.  Genesis 3:15  In this verse we see God promise to sent His Son Jesus Christ who at the time of His death had His heel bruise, but by overcoming death with His Resurrection bruise the head of the enemy, Isaiah 25:7-8; Hosea 6:1-2; 13:14.

 

Reading Ecclesiastes 3:1-8, we see that God has a season to everything.  God even reveals the exalt time in which He would sent His Messiah/Christ or His Only Begotten Son, in Daniel 9:24-27.   Paul's writes concerning this:

But when the fullness of the time was come, God sent forth His Son, born of a woman, born under the law.

Galatians 4:4

This is very important because John tells us for what purpose Jesus was come:

He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning.  For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that He might destroy the works of the devil.

I John 3:8

Jesus Christ came to destroy the power of death that the devil had over us for our disobedience to the Father, Hebrews 2:14.   But He also came to help us receive the adoption as sons of God by the Holy Spirit, see Galatians 4:5-7; Romans 8:14-17; Hebrews 2:9-18.

 

God wanted to show to His people that He has called, His Great love for them.  So He knew yes that Adam and Eve would fall, but He didn't care because He love humankind so much that to redeem them, the Word the Second Member of the Godhead/Trinity would become flesh and died physically and raise from the dead so that He might make us member of the Family of God.  John 1:1; 12;14; 29

 

51)  Behold, I show you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,

52)  In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet; for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.

53)  For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.

54)  So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.

55)  O death, where is thy sting?  O grave, where is thy victory?

56)  The sting of death is sin; and the strength of sin is the law.

57)  But thanks be to God, who giveth us the victory, through our Lord Jesus Christ.

I Corinthians 15:51-56

Yes Jesus has already given us victory over death, but we must wait til He returns the Second time, because although He knew no sin, He became sin for us, II Corinthians 5:21, so that the first time Our Savior came was to take care of our sin problem, but we will all truly be blessed when He comes again with our salvation, Hebrews 9:28.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Why has God allow the devil to continue ?

I believe that God could take Satan out anytime he chose and stop all this madness 

when satan sin in heaven first why did God allow him in the garden of eden and not prevent him from going there 

 

Why has God allow the devil to continue ?  Why did not God kill the devil the moment he sin ?

 

 

Devil simply means "one who does evil". This is why Christ called Judas  Iscariot a devil. John 6:  70 Then Jesus replied, "Have I not chosen you, the Twelve? Yet one of you is a devil!"

 

Satan simply means "The adversary of God". This is why Christ called Peter Satan. Because  Peter was acting like a adversary. Matthew 16:23 But He turned and said to Peter, "Get behind Me, Satan! You are an offense to Me, for you are not mindful of the things of God, but the things of men."

 

As soon as Simjaza and his 200 followers had sinned against God by mating with women and creating monsters on the earth.  God buried them in the desert in the middle east. Where they remain to this day alive but unable to move because of all the  tons of mountains covering them. This is the Chains of darkness that Apostle Peter spoke about.  2 peter 2:4 For if God did not spare the angels who sinned, but cast them down to hell and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved for judgment;

 

so you see if God was to kill satan the devil it would have meant all of us who did not know and follow Christ from birth.

 

You really think mountains hold demons ?

 

For the record, he is not a demon....

 

then whatt is he 

 

 

 

JERRY SPRINGER!

Sorry, it was there and I took it.

 

 

LOL; don't apologize for something that funny, just awesome.

 

[zhavoney]

For the Last time.......zhavoney

 

It is not part of the biblical canon as used by Jews, apart from Beta Israel. Most Christian denominations and traditions may accept the Books of Enoch as having some historical or theological interest or significance, but they generally regard the Books of Enoch as non-canonical or non-inspired.[3] It is regarded as canonical by the Ethiopian Orthodox Tewahedo Church and Eritrean Orthodox Tewahedo Church, but not by any other Christian group.                                                   wikapedia

Please read the ToS(terms of service) ........if YOU choose to accept the Book of Enoch as part of the Bible then that is fine but do not post here claiming that it is part of the Bible,,,,,,,,or bashing the roman catholics  with your allegations of their intent & purposes........I am sure our readers can hear enough of that on the Discovery channel or Nat Geo ,please try to pay attention to members like "other one",he personally regards the Book of Enoch to be valid & goes on to explain why,though it is non-canonical & not widely accepted as the Inspired Word of God..................you are entitled to your own opinions but to try to confuse our readers is very disrespectful of this Ministry,especially after  I have very politely asked all members to be mindful of stating personal preferences as "matter of fact' 

    You can go on the internet & read many reasons why people believe this Book should be accepted as the Inspired Word of God as you can read many reasons why it is not.............it does not change the fact that there are 66 Books in our Bible(we are not talking about catholic bibles).......& the Book of Enoch is not included

 

I don't need the internet. i listen to The Spirit of God. You can of course believe what you wish but I tell you the truth when I say the roman catholic canon along with the King James canon, The niv canon Etc. are not acceptable to the Lord of heaven and earth. they will be removed once the King and his Saints come and reposes the earth and put everyone and everything in it's proper place.

 

This is why we are told to 15 Be diligent to present yourself approved to God, a worker who does not need to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.

[kwikphilly]

God Bless you Brother Joe.....and Amen!!!!!!

 

You Are

So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God. Romans 10:17

What You Eat

Thy words were found, and I did eat them; and thy word was unto me the joy and rejoicing of mine heart: for I am called by thy name, O LORD God of hosts. Jeremiah 15:16

You See

And Jesus answered him, saying, It is written, That man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word of God. Luke 4:4

Beloved

Let no man beguile you of your reward in a voluntary humility and worshipping of angels, intruding into those things which he hath not seen, vainly puffed up by his fleshly mind, Colossians 2:18                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        posted by Fresno Joe

                                                                                                                                                                    With love-in Christ,Kwik

[Sevenseas]

I've been reading some here and my general impression is:   

 

I dunno why folks can't just accept what scripture teaches

 

 

When you drag the deep blue sea and human reasoning and gathered works of demonology NOT found in the Bible and add some

conjecture and sprinkle it with subjective dislikes and cook on high with personal revelation for an undisclosed amount of time......

 

That's just not a good recipe  (please excuse my sense of humor lightly peppered with sarcasim and whimsy)

[Openly Curious]

I have yet to understand what does all that stuff about monster's buried in the desert have to do with the topic of the thread?   

[Openly Curious]

 

For the Last time.......zhavoney

It is not part of the biblical canon as used by Jews, apart from Beta Israel. Most Christian denominations and traditions may accept the Books of Enoch as having some historical or theological interest or significance, but they generally regard the Books of Enoch as non-canonical or non-inspired.[3] It is regarded as canonical by the Ethiopian Orthodox Tewahedo Church and Eritrean Orthodox Tewahedo Church, but not by any other Christian group.                                                   wikapedia

Please read the ToS(terms of service) ........if YOU choose to accept the Book of Enoch as part of the Bible then that is fine but do not post here claiming that it is part of the Bible,,,,,,,,or bashing the roman catholics  with your allegations of their intent & purposes........I am sure our readers can hear enough of that on the Discovery channel or Nat Geo ,please try to pay attention to members like "other one",he personally regards the Book of Enoch to be valid & goes on to explain why,though it is non-canonical & not widely accepted as the Inspired Word of God..................you are entitled to your own opinions but to try to confuse our readers is very disrespectful of this Ministry,especially after  I have very politely asked all members to be mindful of stating personal preferences as "matter of fact' 

    You can go on the internet & read many reasons why people believe this Book should be accepted as the Inspired Word of God as you can read many reasons why it is not.............it does not change the fact that there are 66 Books in our Bible(we are not talking about catholic bibles).......& the Book of Enoch is not included

 

 

I don't need the internet. i listen to The Spirit of God. You can of course believe what you wish but I tell you the truth when I say the roman catholic canon along with the King James canon, The niv canon Etc. are not acceptable to the Lord of heaven and earth. they will be removed once the King and his Saints come and reposes the earth and put everyone and everything in it's proper place.

 

This is why we are told to 15 Be diligent to present yourself approved to God, a worker who does not need to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.

 

Well if you don't need the internet then "Why are you here? 

Since you are rejecting the biblical cannon as the word of God then how do you "rightly divide" the word of truth? 

[OneLight]

I don't need the internet. i listen to The Spirit of God. You can of course believe what you wish but I tell you the truth when I say the roman catholic canon along with the King James canon, The niv canon Etc. are not acceptable to the Lord of heaven and earth. they will be removed once the King and his Saints come and reposes the earth and put everyone and everything in it's proper place.

 

This is why we are told to: 15 Be diligent to present yourself approved to God, a worker who does not need to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.

Are you saying that you reject scripture? How is it that you accept salvation since this is from scripture. If you read John carefully, you will notice the Holy Spirit brings back to memory what we have heard (scripture, since we did not walk with Christ).

[other one]

 

When it comes to the "Why" of Satan being allowed to continue I would have to say that I believe it is for the purpose of God making Himself known.

 

It would be a whole lot easier if he  just took the Johnny Cash approach...

[other one]

 

Why has God allow the devil to continue ?

I believe that God could take Satan out anytime he chose and stop all this madness 

when satan sin in heaven first why did God allow him in the garden of eden and not prevent him from going there 

 

Why has God allow the devil to continue ?  Why did not God kill the devil the moment he sin ?

 

I think it's a huge matter of trust.    The entity we call Satan turned on God and talked a third of the angels to go with him.....   Other than judging the angels, we are told that we can't even conceive what God has in store for us when we get our new eternal bodies........    I think it's important for him to be able to trust us before we are given a resurrected body.