Does God punish his people when they did wrong ?

[Qnts2]

 

My question is 'what do you mean by His people'.

 

His people are Israel, and His people are the church/Christians.

 

Most of Israel is under the Mosaic covenant, which is a bilateral covenant.

 

The church/Christians/Jews and Gentile who believe on Jesus are under the New Covenant, which is a unilateral covenant.

A unilateral covenant means one person is responsible for fulfilling all, and a bilateral covenant is when one person promises certain things contingent on the other people involved fulfilling their responsibilities under the covenant.

 

The Mosaic covenant had punishments for Israels failure to fulfill their obligations.

 

The New Covenant does not have punishments since Jesus died for the sins. In the New Testament, God is called the Father, and believers who are under the New Covenant are called the sons of God/children. When a child does wrong, a good Father will discipline. Discipline is to teach.    

Punish / discipline is the same thing.  And you answered your own question

 

Punish and discipline are not the same thing.

 

Discipline is for the purpose of training. Punishment is a legal term, for being found guilty. In the Mosaic covenant, to violate some of the laws results in a penalty, which is the punishment. Believer in Jesus are called disciples, which means a learner of Jesus.  Because believers are trained up in love, there is no fear of punishment.  

 

The best verses I can think of are the following:

 

1 John 4:18 There is no fear in love; but perfect love casts out fear, because fear involves punishment, and the one who fears is not perfected in love.

 

Hebrews 12:11 All discipline for the moment seems not to be joyful, but sorrowful; yet to those who have been trained by it, afterwards it yields the peaceful fruit of righteousness.

 

Adding definitions of the Greek words.

 

Discipline or chastisement:

 

 

paideia

Pronunciation

pī-dā'-ä (Key)

Part of Speech

feminine noun

Root Word (Etymology)

From παιδεύω (G3811)

Dictionary Aids

Vine's Expository Dictionary: View Entry

TDNT Reference: 5:596,753

Trench's Synonyms: xxxii. παιδεία, νουθεσία.

Outline of Biblical Usage

1. the whole training and education of children (which relates to the cultivation of mind and morals, and employs for this purpose now commands and admonitions, now reproof and punishment) It also includes the training and care of the body

2. whatever in adults also cultivates the soul, esp. by correcting mistakes and curbing passions.

   1. instruction which aims at increasing virtue

 

Punishment

 

 

kolasis

Pronunciation

ko'-lä-sēs (Key)

Part of Speech

feminine noun

Root Word (Etymology)

From κολάζω (G2849)

Dictionary Aids

Vine's Expository Dictionary: View Entry

TDNT Reference: 3:816,451

Trench's Synonyms: vii. τιμωρία, κόλασις.

Outline of Biblical Usage

1. correction, punishment, penalty

[OneLight]

Galatians 6:7-10

Do not be deceived, God is not mocked; for whatever a man sows, that he will also reap. For he who sows to his flesh will of the flesh reap corruption, but he who sows to the Spirit will of the Spirit reap everlasting life. And let us not grow weary while doing good, for in due season we shall reap if we do not lose heart. Therefore, as we have opportunity, let us do good to all, especially to those who are of the household of faith.

It is apparent that we are reaping what we sowed. It is not God punishing us for what we did. It may look that way because He is allowing the fruit of our work to prevail, come to light. All God is doing is what scripture tells us.

[Littlelambseativy]

All actions have consequences and if the action is against God's will for you or a nation he will punish for disobedience.

[Guest]

Does God punish his people who did wrong...

 

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Punish and discipline are not the same thing....

 

 

Is One His Child

 

As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent. Revelation 3:19

 

Really?

 

Thou shalt also consider in thine heart, that, as a man chasteneth his son, so the LORD thy God chasteneth thee. Deuteronomy 8:5

 

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Your Touch

 

For whom the LORD loveth he correcteth; even as a father the son in whom he delighteth. Proverbs 3:12

 

Is Such What A Comfort

 

But when we are judged, we are chastened of the Lord, that we should not be condemned with the world. 1 Corinthians 11:32

 

Thank You Abba

 

For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father. Romans 5:15

 

I Love You LORD

I Love You

[1to3]

Yes God chastises His own.

Hebrews 12:5,6

"And you have forgotten the exhortation which speaks to you as to sons;

My son do not despise the chastening of the Lord,

Nor  be discouraged when you are rebuked by Him;

For who the Lord loves He chastens,

And scourges every son whom He receives"

 

Poverbs3:12 for whom the Lord loves, He corrects

Just as a father the son in whom he delights

 

God must love me, not only because the bible tells me so,

but also because I have received and continmue to receive the chastening of the Lord.

 

 

But God is also very gentle when he chastens, what I mean by that is that He will show you in a way that you will be able to receive, without letting your pride come in the way to receive.

 

Likewise like Him we are to be gentle as servanrs of God.

 

2 timothy 2:24 And a servant of the lord must not quarrel but be gentle to all,able to teach, patient,

in humility correcting those who are in opposition, if God perhaps will grant these repentance, so that they may know the truth

and that they may come to their senses and escape the snare of the devil, having been taken captive by him to do his will.

Edited December 3, 2014 by 1to3

[Guest jdrew001]

Yes he did. Look at when the children of Israel went to the Wilderness because they refused to go into the promise land.

 

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[rjp34652]

Does God punish his people who did wrong? Each of my friend has a different idea on this subject. One of them said God never punishes anyone but let people realize his fault by himseld and become to regret. Is it real?

 

I quote from Ezekiel on this one.   The scripture is a two edged sword, confirming God's justice on one hand and mercy toward the righteous on the other.   Read and weep.  Bold faced type is mine.

 

"Because you disheartened the righteous with falsehood when I did not cause him grief, but have encouraged the wicked not to turn from his wicked way and preserve his life..."

- Ezekiel 13:22

 

This is a heavy line.  It justifies judgment of the wicked in terms of death and in the larger context of the chapter promises deliverance to the righteous by God's own hand.   It strongly suggests that not all grief comes from God.   Those who live in the secular culture of America today know exactly what I'm referring to.

 

IF GOD DOES NOT JUDGE AMERICA, HE WILL HAVE TO APOLOGIZE TO SODOM AND GOMORRAH.

 

and that's just me, hollering from the choir loft...

[cristianprince67]

Does God punish his people who did wrong? Each of my friend has a different idea on this subject. One of them said God never punishes anyone but let people realize his fault by himseld and become to regret. Is it real?

I don't think God punishes anyone. He's very forgiving and understanding.

[Guest]

Does God punish his people who did wrong?

 

Each of my friend has a different idea on this subject.

 

One of them said God never punishes anyone but let people realize his fault by himself

 

and become to regret.

 

Is it real?

 

I don't think God punishes anyone.

 

He's very forgiving and

 

understanding.

 

 

It's Very

 

But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us. Romans 5:8

 

Real

 

And the King shall answer and say unto them,

 

Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.

 

Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire,

 

prepared for the devil and his angels: Matthew 25:40-41

[OneLight]

 

Does God punish his people who did wrong? Each of my friend has a different idea on this subject. One of them said God never punishes anyone but let people realize his fault by himseld and become to regret. Is it real?

I don't think God punishes anyone. He's very forgiving and understanding.

 

 

You fail to understand that people choose which life they want to live.  God forewarns everyone in His word and we have a whole lifetime to make our decision.  You also forget that He sent His only Son, Jesus, to die for our sins, to take our rightful place for what we did against Him.  To say that God will just forgive people because He understands is like a slap in the face to Jesus.  He sent His Son for a reason.  There is no other way to God but through His Son, period.

 

Now, if you are talking about life's challenges, we all have them.  We all make mistakes, and we all loose a little because of our choices.  This is not God punishing us for our mistakes, but how our choices direct our future.  Bad choices create bad results.  If this were not true, then nobody would have a reason to walk in His will.