Adams fault??

[creativemechanic]

I heard an argument made by a woman that it's Adams fault  that Eve picked the fruit and ate it. Namely because as head of the household and the one who God initially warned about the danger,  he should have ensured that Eve knew not to touch the fruit and because she didn't obey, thus when she disobeyed, Adam failed in his duty as man and leader of the home.

 

Personally I think that one of the stupidest,biased, fact blind, buck passing arguments I ever heard, because the Bible clearly says that when Eve is approached by the serpent, she repeats the instructions given by God, showing that she had been warned and wasn't ignorant, thus chose to disobey out of her own informed decision.

 

Thoughts

[Guest shiloh357]

I heard an argument made by a woman that it's Adams fault  that Eve picked the fruit and ate it. Namely because as head of the household and the one who God initially warned about the danger,  he should have ensured that Eve knew not to touch the fruit and because she didn't obey, thus when she disobeyed, Adam failed in his duty as man and leader of the home.

 

Personally I think that one of the stupidest,biased, fact blind, buck passing arguments I ever heard, because the Bible clearly says that when Eve is approached by the serpent, she repeats the instructions given by God, showing that she had been warned and wasn't ignorant, thus chose to disobey out of her own informed decision.

 

Thoughts

actually what that woman said was absolutely correct.  Adam was told not eat of the fruit before Eve was created.  We don't know the conversation that took place between Adam and Eve, but we do know that the Bible places the blame solely on Adam for the fall of man (Rom. 5:12-21).  It was the result of Adam's disobedience that Jesus came to pay the penalty for. 

 

She didn't say what God said.  She said that God said they were not touch it.  But God didn't say that.  He said they were not to eat of it.  Eve added to what was commanded by God.  Whether Adam told her not to touch it or not, we don't know.  I Tim. 2:13-14 states that when Eve ate of the fruit, she was deceived, but Adam committed that sin with both eyes open.  He knew he was being disobedient.

 

The way the story reads in Genesis, it appears that Adam was present when Eve took of the fruit but didn't stop her.  Adam failed.  I think the woman that you mentioned is absolutely correct.  Nowhere in the Bible does Eve share the blame for man's fall.

[OakWood]

I think there are many ways that you can look at this. Eve was naive and foolishly believed what the serpent had told her. Adam should have known better but maybe he was taken in by her charms, who knows?

God reserved the greater punishment for Eve in my opinion because of the pains of childbirth. However, you could argue that Adam's punishment was greater because he has to work hard and toil the land. So it's hard to say who is most to blame.

I think it tells us that women are not meant to be the leaders, the men are because women cannot be trusted to make decisions of big responsibility. I know that sounds sexist, but I don't mean it to be too literal, I'm just saying that it points out that we have different biological roles.

[other one]

I think there are many ways that you can look at this. Eve was naive and foolishly believed what the serpent had told her. Adam should have known better but maybe he was taken in by her charms, who knows?

God reserved the greater punishment for Eve in my opinion because of the pains of childbirth. However, you could argue that Adam's punishment was greater because he has to work hard and toil the land. So it's hard to say who is most to blame.

I think it tells us that women are not meant to be the leaders, the men are because women cannot be trusted to make decisions of big responsibility. I know that sounds sexist, but I don't mean it to be too literal, I'm just saying that it points out that we have different biological roles.

LoL    and I guess Adam did....

[Willa]

Have to agree with Shiloh on this one because the Bible in 1Tim.2:13-14 squarely puts the blame on Adam. But if you want to talk about passing the buck, notice that in the Garden when God confronted Adam with his sin, he replies with "This woman that YOU gave me"! Now, it seems to me that blaming God for his transgression would also be a big no no. It makes me duck my head every time I read it. When my kids pulled stuff like that my eyes would be blazing, so I can imagine the eyes of God in that instance.

[clark thompson]

I heard an argument made by a woman that it's Adams fault  that Eve picked the fruit and ate it. Namely because as head of the household and the one who God initially warned about the danger,  he should have ensured that Eve knew not to touch the fruit and because she didn't obey, thus when she disobeyed, Adam failed in his duty as man and leader of the home.

 

Personally I think that one of the stupidest,biased, fact blind, buck passing arguments I ever heard, because the Bible clearly says that when Eve is approached by the serpent, she repeats the instructions given by God, showing that she had been warned and wasn't ignorant, thus chose to disobey out of her own informed decision.

 

Thoughts

Prior to the fall man was not the head of the household but they were equals then changed with the fall, Eve was tempted by Satan but had no support by Adam her husband to do right because He was not tempted but willingly sin without being tempted.

[Guest]

I heard an argument made by a woman that it's Adams fault  that Eve picked the fruit and ate it. Namely because as head of the household and the one who God initially warned about the danger,  he should have ensured that Eve knew not to touch the fruit and because she didn't obey, thus when she disobeyed, Adam failed in his duty as man and leader of the home.

 

Personally I think that one of the stupidest,biased, fact blind, buck passing arguments I ever heard, because the Bible clearly says that when Eve is approached by the serpent, she repeats the instructions given by God, showing that she had been warned and wasn't ignorant, thus chose to disobey out of her own informed decision.

 

Thoughts

 

 

Stupidest, Biased Or Blind

 

Therefore, just as sin came into the world through one man, and death through sin, and so death spread to all men because all sinned— Romans 5:12 (ESV)

 

The Bible Clearly Says She's Spot On

 

For as in Adam all die, so also in Christ shall all be made alive. 1 Corinthians 15:22 (ESV)

 

Nevertheless It Goes On

 

For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; Romans 3:23

 

To Say She Is Not

 

For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. Romans 6:23

 

Sinless

 

If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us. 1 John 1:10

 

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Even Women

 

I will praise thee; for I am fearfully and wonderfully made: marvellous are thy works; and that my soul knoweth right well. Psalms 139:14

 

Need Jesus

 

For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. John 3:16

[kwikphilly]

Blessings Shiloh....

    You took the words right out of my mouth,or rather, RIGHT OUT OF GODS WORD!!!!!It is pretty clear what happened & also that that woman has read Genesis with Understanding

 

Prior to the fall man was not the head of the household but they were equals then changed with the fall, Eve was tempted by Satan but had no support by Adam her husband to do right because He was not tempted but willingly sin without being tempted.                                                                 posted by clark thompson

Not bad clark,not bad at all!!!-lol                                                                                                                                   Love-Kwik

[Zemke]

The unity they had is something we can only partially experience and comprehend  this side of eternity. But the fall doesn't change God forming Adam first and then eve. The responsibility is Adams. Doesn't matter what dialogue or story we attribute to the couple. It's the oldest story of the term "man up". 

 

I agree with the OP, it's just a story that has a chance of being stupid.  

[creativemechanic]

let me clarify. Yes God places blame on adam and yes he took the fruit  while knowing better- not disputing that, but the impression  this lady gave is that eve taking the fruit was somehow his fault not hers.

Apparently, a grown woman  isnt responsible for her actions, so blame the husband because she didnt quote Gods instructions exactly.

The Bible never says whther Adam gave Eve the exact instructions that God gave him(maybe not or maybe he did and she misquoted him) or that if he was there to stop her.

BUT

 

Besides, God said dont eat  it, wouldnt touching be involved in the eating??? So either way, clearly contact with said fruit is wrong.Which she disobeyed.

 

 The lady was adamant on it being his fault that his wife  ignored Gods simple rules and  listened to a talking snake.

 

THATS why i call it buck passing.

Biased because of something i realised about male and female fault  taking, but thats another story