Keith Posted December 28, 2014 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 733 Topics Per Day: 0.10 Content Count: 3,017 Content Per Day: 0.43 Reputation: 128 Days Won: 1 Joined: 01/01/2005 Status: Offline Birthday: 04/09/1966 Share Posted December 28, 2014 Hello and welcome, Mr. Nice! Great topic for conversation. Looking forward to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Nice Posted December 28, 2014 Group: Removed from Forums for Breaking Terms of Service Followers: 0 Topic Count: 3 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 118 Content Per Day: 0.03 Reputation: 14 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/28/2014 Status: Offline Author Share Posted December 28, 2014 First let me make my above question clear. I agree with man it is impossible to walk blamessly before our God, but through God all things are possible. If all things are possible through Him who is able to keep us from stumbling, Jude 24-25, and who will provide a way of escape from all temptation, 1 Corinthians 10:13, why do peple believe we can not walk blamessly in this life? This is walking blameless through His Spirit (the Helper, Comforter, Spirit of Truth, Spirit of Grace, etc.), the same Spirit through whom Christ was able to offer Himself without blemmish on the cross. This brings up another question. Could Jesus have sinned having come as a man who was tempted just as we are? If we cannot walk blameless why did Christ command us to be perfect as our Father in heaven is perfect? Why did Paul pray that we would be able to walk blameless until the Lord returns, Philippians 1:8-11? How could John say "as He is so are we in this world", 1 John 4:15-21? How can we prove ourselves to be blameless and innocent children of God in a perverse generation, Philippians 2:14-16, if we continue to commit willful sin? Why are we told we can extinguish all the flaming arrows of Satan if we have faith, Ephesians 6:16, if we cannot walk without committing sin as a Christian? I have many more questions but I will wait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneLight Posted December 28, 2014 Group: Royal Member Followers: 22 Topic Count: 1,294 Topics Per Day: 0.21 Content Count: 31,762 Content Per Day: 5.23 Reputation: 9,762 Days Won: 115 Joined: 09/14/2007 Status: Offline Share Posted December 28, 2014 Welcome. Now that you have 5 posts, you can post in almost all other forums. Here is a link to the forums themselves. You can see that some forums have sub-forums, each forum title explains what the topics should be. The Outer Court is the only area where nonbelievers can post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wingnut- Posted December 29, 2014 Group: Royal Member Followers: 39 Topic Count: 101 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 7,673 Content Per Day: 1.31 Reputation: 7,358 Days Won: 67 Joined: 04/22/2008 Status: Offline Share Posted December 29, 2014 welcome to worthy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willa Posted December 30, 2014 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 68 Topic Count: 186 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 14,242 Content Per Day: 3.33 Reputation: 16,657 Days Won: 30 Joined: 08/14/2012 Status: Offline Share Posted December 30, 2014 Welcome. There is a balance. To those who think when they are saved they can continue to live a sinful lifestyle, God admonishes to turn away from wickedness and walk in the Spirit. To those who continually fail in their struggle against sin and cannot forgive themselves, He comforts with the the knowledge that He sees them as bearing in themselves the righteousness of Christ. God tries to spare us the misery of the hell we make of our lives by living in sin. He came to bring us an abundant life full of joy, peace and the fruit of the Spirit. I do agree with Shiloh. Blessings, Willa Romans 4:20-25; 5:20-6:2, 23;, 7:4; 8:1, 31-34 Galatians 5: 13-14, 16-18; 6:7-9 John 10:10; 13:34-35 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Nice Posted December 30, 2014 Group: Removed from Forums for Breaking Terms of Service Followers: 0 Topic Count: 3 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 118 Content Per Day: 0.03 Reputation: 14 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/28/2014 Status: Offline Author Share Posted December 30, 2014 Please provide scripture for what you believe otherwise it will only be opinions of man and not necessarily truth. Even the verse you have at the bottom of your post states the opposite of what you believe. The people had to turn from their wicked ways (do them no longer) in order for their sins to be forgiven and their prayers heard. His command has always been to obey His voice with the result of destruction if we do not. Christ's death on the cross opened the way so that we can obey God's voice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FaithGirl Posted December 30, 2014 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 11 Topic Count: 16 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 190 Content Per Day: 0.04 Reputation: 117 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/03/2012 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/26/1970 Share Posted December 30, 2014 Welcome to worthy mr nice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Robinson Posted December 30, 2014 Group: Senior Member Followers: 6 Topic Count: 22 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 903 Content Per Day: 0.20 Reputation: 516 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/01/2011 Status: Offline Birthday: 05/03/1952 Share Posted December 30, 2014 I think I know where you're going with this, Mr. Nice--and if I'm wrong, please correct me--but trying to say it's works that keep you sanctified is like traveling by pogo stick though a minefield: you're never able to truly rest, and you're always afraid the slightest misstep will destroy you. That's no way to live. Jesus did it all, does it all, and will continue to do it all for me. I rest in that promise, and brother, it's sweet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shiloh357 Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 F If we cannot walk blameless why did Christ command us to be perfect as our Father in heaven is perfect? The word "perfect" in the Greek is not referring to flawless perfection. It refers to maturity and completeness with God as our plumline. We are not commanded to be as flawless as He is; that would be an absurd, unreachable goal as God's perfection cannot be obtained by any creature. Why did Paul pray that we would be able to walk blameless until the Lord returns, Philippians 1:8-11? In the Greek it means to live inoffensively. It doesn't mean to live without committing a single sin, as you seem to interpret it. It means that the world cannot accuse us of hypocrisy or of being two-faced, living one way and preaching something else. It is referring to the general character of the Christian life being blameless and faultless. But in no way does it mean we are live without ever committing a single sin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fez Posted December 30, 2014 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 683 Topics Per Day: 0.12 Content Count: 11,128 Content Per Day: 2.00 Reputation: 1,352 Days Won: 54 Joined: 02/03/2009 Status: Offline Birthday: 12/07/1952 Share Posted December 30, 2014 F If we cannot walk blameless why did Christ command us to be perfect as our Father in heaven is perfect? The word "perfect" in the Greek is not referring to flawless perfection. It refers to maturity and completeness with God as our plumline. We are not commanded to be as flawless as He is; that would be an absurd, unreachable goal as God's perfection cannot be obtained by any creature. Why did Paul pray that we would be able to walk blameless until the Lord returns, Philippians 1:8-11? In the Greek it means to live inoffensively. It doesn't mean to live without committing a single sin, as you seem to interpret it. It means that the world cannot accuse us of hypocrisy or of being two-faced, living one way and preaching something else. It is referring to the general character of the Christian life being blameless and faultless. But in no way does it mean we are live without ever committing a single sin. It is referring to the general character of the Christian life being blameless and faultless. But in no way does it mean we are live without ever committing a single sin. Agreed! Like this... Gen 17:1 When Abram was ninety-nine years old the LORD appeared to Abram and said to him, "I am God Almighty; walk before me, and be blameless, Gen 17:2 that I may make my covenant between me and you, and may multiply you greatly." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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