A healthy Marriage poem

[Ezra]

Adam tried to blame eve and God for that matter for his act of sin. God had none of that and put the blame on adam.

Talk about bias! While this may be somewhat off-topic, God put the blame squarely on both, but if you look closely, the woman was held more responsible than the man, because she caused him to sin. He could have resisted,but sometimes husbands will do anything for their wives. The question is: "Who presented Adam with the temptation"?  Let's review carefully who said (and did) what (Gen 3:6,9-13 KJB):

⁶ And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat...

⁹ And the LORD God called unto Adam, and said unto him, Where art thou?

¹⁰ And he said, I heard thy voice in the garden, and I was afraid, because I was naked; and I hid myself.

¹¹ And he said, Who told thee that thou wast naked? Hast thou eaten of the tree, whereof I commanded thee that thou shouldest not eat?

¹² And the man said, The woman whom thou gavest to be with me, she gave me of the tree, and I did eat.

¹³ And the LORD God said unto the woman, What is this that thou hast done? And the woman said, The serpent beguiled me, and I did eat.

 

While this was a classical case of passing the buck, the truth of the matter is that had Eve not wandered off on her own to chit-chat with the Devil, none of this would have happened.  Hence the LORD asked Eve "What is this that THOU hast done?" Adam was indeed guilty of disobedience, and Scripture holds him ultimately responsible.  But who started the ball rolling?

 

Which brings us to the OP.  Clearly Scripture has been quoted improperly, therefore a false conclusion has been reached.  But the lesson here is that when one of the spouses wanders off to chit-chat with someone else, you can be sure there will be serious consequences.  And when one of the spouses withholds from the other what is their matrimonial due, then Satan will make sure he destroys the marriage.  Hence the Scripture itself (1 Cor 7:5 KJB and forget the other versions): Defraud ye not one the other, except it be with consent for a time, that ye may give yourselves to fasting and prayer; and come together again, that Satan tempt you not for your incontinency. [incontinency = akrasia = lack of self-control]

[ayin jade]

 

Adam tried to blame eve and God for that matter for his act of sin. God had none of that and put the blame on adam.

Talk about bias! While this may be somewhat off-topic, God put the blame squarely on both, but if you look closely, the woman was held more responsible than the man, because she caused him to sin. He could have resisted,but sometimes husbands will do anything for their wives. The question is: "Who presented Adam with the temptation"?  Let's review carefully who said (and did) what (Gen 3:6,9-13 KJB):

⁶ And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat...

⁹ And the LORD God called unto Adam, and said unto him, Where art thou?

¹⁰ And he said, I heard thy voice in the garden, and I was afraid, because I was naked; and I hid myself.

¹¹ And he said, Who told thee that thou wast naked? Hast thou eaten of the tree, whereof I commanded thee that thou shouldest not eat?

¹² And the man said, The woman whom thou gavest to be with me, she gave me of the tree, and I did eat.

¹³ And the LORD God said unto the woman, What is this that thou hast done? And the woman said, The serpent beguiled me, and I did eat.

 

While this was a classical case of passing the buck, the truth of the matter is that had Eve not wandered off on her own to chit-chat with the Devil, none of this would have happened.  Hence the LORD asked Eve "What is this that THOU hast done?" Adam was indeed guilty of disobedience, and Scripture holds him ultimately responsible.  But who started the ball rolling?

 

Which brings us to the OP.  Clearly Scripture has been quoted improperly, therefore a false conclusion has been reached.  But the lesson here is that when one of the spouses wanders off to chit-chat with someone else, you can be sure there will be serious consequences.  And when one of the spouses withholds from the other what is their matrimonial due, then Satan will make sure he destroys the marriage.  Hence the Scripture itself (1 Cor 7:5 KJB and forget the other versions): Defraud ye not one the other, except it be with consent for a time, that ye may give yourselves to fasting and prayer; and come together again, that Satan tempt you not for your incontinency. [incontinency = akrasia = lack of self-control]

 

 

 

I never ever said eve was blameless.

 

She too tried to pass the blame and the Lord didnt let her do that either. But adam still tried to pass the blame to her. God held adam accountable for his sin as well as holding eve accountable.

[*Zion*]

 

Adam tried to blame eve and God for that matter for his act of sin. God had none of that and put the blame on adam.

Talk about bias! While this may be somewhat off-topic, God put the blame squarely on both, but if you look closely, the woman was held more responsible than the man, because she caused him to sin. He could have resisted,but sometimes husbands will do anything for their wives. The question is: "Who presented Adam with the temptation"?  Let's review carefully who said (and did) what (Gen 3:6,9-13 KJB):

⁶ And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat...

⁹ And the LORD God called unto Adam, and said unto him, Where art thou?

¹⁰ And he said, I heard thy voice in the garden, and I was afraid, because I was naked; and I hid myself.

¹¹ And he said, Who told thee that thou wast naked? Hast thou eaten of the tree, whereof I commanded thee that thou shouldest not eat?

¹² And the man said, The woman whom thou gavest to be with me, she gave me of the tree, and I did eat.

¹³ And the LORD God said unto the woman, What is this that thou hast done? And the woman said, The serpent beguiled me, and I did eat.

 

While this was a classical case of passing the buck, the truth of the matter is that had Eve not wandered off on her own to chit-chat with the Devil, none of this would have happened.  Hence the LORD asked Eve "What is this that THOU hast done?" Adam was indeed guilty of disobedience, and Scripture holds him ultimately responsible.  But who started the ball rolling?

 

Which brings us to the OP.  Clearly Scripture has been quoted improperly, therefore a false conclusion has been reached.  But the lesson here is that when one of the spouses wanders off to chit-chat with someone else, you can be sure there will be serious consequences.  And when one of the spouses withholds from the other what is their matrimonial due, then Satan will make sure he destroys the marriage.  Hence the Scripture itself (1 Cor 7:5 KJB and forget the other versions): Defraud ye not one the other, except it be with consent for a time, that ye may give yourselves to fasting and prayer; and come together again, that Satan tempt you not for your incontinency. [incontinency = akrasia = lack of self-control]

 

 

Are you saying that Adam did not have his own mind to refuse to sin?  Just Eve chose to listen to the serpent, so Adam chose to listen to Eve.  It is easier to blame someone else for your own mistakes instead of accepting them as your own, because all actions, including mistakes, have consequences.  Blame them both for choosing to do something wrong that they had every freedom to decide against.  To say it is all Eve's fault is equally bias, and if you think about it, an irresponsible way of dealing with the issue.

[missmuffet]

 

 

Adam tried to blame eve and God for that matter for his act of sin. God had none of that and put the blame on adam.

Talk about bias! While this may be somewhat off-topic, God put the blame squarely on both, but if you look closely, the woman was held more responsible than the man, because she caused him to sin. He could have resisted,but sometimes husbands will do anything for their wives. The question is: "Who presented Adam with the temptation"?  Let's review carefully who said (and did) what (Gen 3:6,9-13 KJB):

⁶ And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat...

⁹ And the LORD God called unto Adam, and said unto him, Where art thou?

¹⁰ And he said, I heard thy voice in the garden, and I was afraid, because I was naked; and I hid myself.

¹¹ And he said, Who told thee that thou wast naked? Hast thou eaten of the tree, whereof I commanded thee that thou shouldest not eat?

¹² And the man said, The woman whom thou gavest to be with me, she gave me of the tree, and I did eat.

¹³ And the LORD God said unto the woman, What is this that thou hast done? And the woman said, The serpent beguiled me, and I did eat.

 

While this was a classical case of passing the buck, the truth of the matter is that had Eve not wandered off on her own to chit-chat with the Devil, none of this would have happened.  Hence the LORD asked Eve "What is this that THOU hast done?" Adam was indeed guilty of disobedience, and Scripture holds him ultimately responsible.  But who started the ball rolling?

 

Which brings us to the OP.  Clearly Scripture has been quoted improperly, therefore a false conclusion has been reached.  But the lesson here is that when one of the spouses wanders off to chit-chat with someone else, you can be sure there will be serious consequences.  And when one of the spouses withholds from the other what is their matrimonial due, then Satan will make sure he destroys the marriage.  Hence the Scripture itself (1 Cor 7:5 KJB and forget the other versions): Defraud ye not one the other, except it be with consent for a time, that ye may give yourselves to fasting and prayer; and come together again, that Satan tempt you not for your incontinency. [incontinency = akrasia = lack of self-control]

 

 

Are you saying that Adam did not have his own mind to refuse to sin?  Just Eve chose to listen to the serpent, so Adam chose to listen to Eve.  It is easier to blame someone else for your own mistakes instead of accepting them as your own, because all actions, including mistakes, have consequences.  Blame them both for choosing to do something wrong that they had every freedom to decide against.  To say it is all Eve's fault is equally bias, and if you think about it, an irresponsible way of dealing with the issue.

 

Yes,Eve blew it   

[Guest shiloh357]

The Bible squarely puts the lion's share of the blame on Adam, not Eve.   Romans 5:12-21 mentions nothing about Eve.  It was Adam's sin that brought death to the world.

[missmuffet]

The Bible squarely puts the lion's share of the blame on Adam, not Eve.   Romans 5:12-21 mentions nothing about Eve.  It was Adam's sin that brought death to the world.

Yes,I see that.

 

This understanding helps to explain the emphasis on “Adam’s sin” in the New Testament (Romans 5:12). Adam was created first and placed in the Garden of Eden to care for it along with Eve. Adam then actively participated in breaking the one rule God gave him to obey. If Adam had not been present when Eve spoke with the serpent, it would be more difficult to understand why the first sin is emphasized as being Adam’s.

http://www.gotquestions.org/Adam-with-Eve.html

[Ezra]

The Bible squarely puts the lion's share of the blame on Adam, not Eve.   Romans 5:12-21 mentions nothing about Eve.  It was Adam's sin that brought death to the world.

But it was Eve's stupidity that led Adam to go along with his beautiful wife.  Eve must have been an extremely beautiful woman.  And yes, Adam -- knowing the dire consequences --  could have said "Sorry, but I won't join you in this foolishness", but he did not.  That's why God asked her "What hast thou done?"  We could add parenthetically "thou stupid woman".  If we think about it, Eve chose to be deceived, just as people today chose to be deceived. But Adam deliberately chose to disobey (for his own sake or for her sake, we are not told) therefore Adam is held squarely responsible.  And all of humanity is paying the price.

[Ezra]

Are you saying that Adam did not have his own mind to refuse to sin?

Let's face it.  Many husbands will go along with their wives' foolishness simply because they love them, and desire to please them. Having your own mind has nothing to do with that.  Emotions have everything to do with it.

[Steve_S]

At this point I would settle for just a healthy marriage thread! Can we be slightly less harsh in tone on this stuff? 

[Guest shiloh357]

Ezra,

 

The Bible says that Eve was deceived, but Adam was not, meaning that Adam was disobedient on purpose.   The Bible puts the blame on Adam, not on Eve.  You really need to come to grips with that.