No KJV Bible please?

[AllTheGoodNamesAreTaken]

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"What did Yeshua say to those preachers/teachers/scholars/ lawyers/ scribes/ pharisees who read, studied, meditated and mumbled/repeated and memorized(all of it) Scripture daily "

Good point. Did they have the Textus Receptus Jeff? You often ignore my questions, which is fine. You obviously follow your path to salvation, as do I. I will always answer for what I believe to be truth to anyone who asks me.

Amen Bopeep, I don't think there will be an examination other than our hearts and minds. Again, I may be wrong. Perhaps it depends on the KJV?

Butero, you don't need my approval, if I think differently than you then maybe I am wrong.

 

Edited August 22, 2015 by AllTheGoodNamesAreTaken

[Ezra]

Good point. Did they have the Textus Receptus Jeff?

Perhaps Jeff may or may not respond, but to answer the question, the Textus Receptus pertains to the New Testament but the Traditional Hebrew Text, which is known as the Massorah or the Masoretic Text, was indeed the text of Christ and all the scribes and Pharisees. Modern Bible versions have instead relied on Kittel's Biblia Hebraica, which is a corrupted Hebrew Text, relying on various corruptions such as the Samaritan Pentateuch to"correct" the Bible.  So Jesus and the scribes all had the Hebrew text which supports our Old Testament in the KJB.  Palestinian Jews did not rely on the modified Greek Septuagint.

Coming back to some of the issues raised:

1. How people run their businesses or ministries is their business, and they will answer to God.

2. The majority of Christians have no idea that the Bible was under attack by the so-called scholars beginning in the 17th and 18th centuries and culminating in the 19th century with the corrupt Greek Text of Westcott & Hort as well as their Revised Version (RV).

3. All modern versions are modifications of the Revised Version and cannot be trusted because the underlying Hebrew and Greek texts are corrupt.  The propaganda promoting modern versions was so powerful (and the monetary rewards were so significant) that most evangelists, pastors, teachers, and even Bible scholars such as Scofield were deceived.

4. Those who know better have a duty to inform those who may not be aware of these issues. If they still prefer the corrupt bibles, that is their decision and they will give account.

5. Preachers and teachers have a moral obligation to closely examine these issues, and yet most evangelical and fundamentalist preachers have accepted the word of "scholars" rather than thorougly investigate the matter. Does it matter?  Does every word of God matter? Does every jot and tittle matter?

6. Efforts to up-date the KJV have failed miserably because people were not content to address only the items that needed to be updated. The NKJV is a failure.

 

[Ezra]

 

I would ask one thing of you, why the KJV over a printed Bible that pre-dates it? Just curious.

That's a very good question. Why not Wycliffe's, or Tyndale's, Coverdale's, or Matthew's, or the Great Bible, or the Bishop's Bible, or even the Geneva Bible? There were many English translations in existence around 1600 AD, but they all had deficiencies. The Puritans in the Church of England were what you might call Fundamentalist Calvinistic Christians, and it was primarily at their insistence that King James I agreed to a new English translation directly out of the Hebrew and Greek, but comparing all existing translations in order to make"out of many ONE GOOD translation", and with no biased commentary. The KJV leans towards Tyndale.

There were 54 translators originally, but through attrition, they were reduced to 47.  Having this large number was a tremendous safeguard from personal biases and interpretations.  But above all these men (many of them Puritans) were absolutely outstanding scholars and at the same time very sincere, devoted, and godly men. Their goal was to glorify God, not themselves.  

They were grouped into six companies, and all had a chance to review all the work of the others.  The end result was the Authorized Version of 1611. What we have today has been modified for spellings, punctuation, orthography, etc. but the text is essentially the same as the original KJV. I have a reprint of the original (which includes the Apocrypha, but they made it clear that the Apocrypha was not Divinely inspired).

[missmuffet]

There is also not going to be an entrance exam about how much of the Bible we know or have read.

Of course not, but our lack of knowledge can keep us from getting to heaven.  The Bible actually says that God's people are destroyed for lack of knowledge.  That is why the Bible being correct matters to me.

Our lack of knowledge will not keep anyone out of heaven if they believe in Jesus Christ.

[OneLight]

So a couple of days ago I was in a Lifeway Store, and had to used the bathroom, as I head for the bathroom, I notice a sign asking for old Bibles, but was astonished to see on the bottom of the sign no KJV Bible please, being a KJVP some might even call me a KJVO, I was a little offended; most of my old Bibles are KJV not all, but most. 

Just wondering do think I was wrong to be offended?

It could be that they have many KJV already and are looking for other versions.  Don't let things like that bother you.

[hmbld]

My first thought was maybe they have an intended destination for these bibles and that audience does not receive KJV very well?

Or maybe they are collecting all non-KJV to destroy these " corrupted" copies?  Lol just kidding.  If not concerned enough to ask them, why worry or assume?

[MorningGlory]

There is also not going to be an entrance exam about how much of the Bible we know or have read.

Of course not, but our lack of knowledge can keep us from getting to heaven.  The Bible actually says that God's people are destroyed for lack of knowledge.  That is why the Bible being correct matters to me.

Our lack of knowledge will not keep anyone out of heaven if they believe in Jesus Christ.

I was actually going to post a very similar thought, bopeep.  I will add that as long as a believer has the basics down (and we all know what those are,)  accepts Jesus as the Messiah and follows Him then I'm sure they will be okay.  I'm not a Bible memorizer myself; I'm more of a look it up as I have the need type of learner.  For some, the KJV is simply too hard to read and, if other versions keep them reading and learning, then they shouldn't worry about it.  It's not like they're reading the Qu'ran.

[missmuffet]

There is also not going to be an entrance exam about how much of the Bible we know or have read.

Of course not, but our lack of knowledge can keep us from getting to heaven.  The Bible actually says that God's people are destroyed for lack of knowledge.  That is why the Bible being correct matters to me.

Our lack of knowledge will not keep anyone out of heaven if they believe in Jesus Christ.

I was actually going to post a very similar thought, bopeep.  I will add that as long as a believer has the basics down (and we all know what those are,)  accepts Jesus as the Messiah and follows Him then I'm sure they will be okay.  I'm not a Bible memorizer myself; I'm more of a look it up as I have the need type of learner.  For some, the KJV is simply too hard to read and, if other versions keep them reading and learning, then they shouldn't worry about it.  It's not like they're reading the Qu'ran.

Actually the basics is John 3:16.But then when we become a Christian we want to learn as much as we can about God.We are free to learn from a reliable source that we feel comfortable with and can learn the most.That is not always the KJV.But if someone has only the comprehension to ask Jesus Christ into their life and they never do pick up a Bible they will go to heaven.It is a free gift.

[missmuffet]

There is also not going to be an entrance exam about how much of the Bible we know or have read.

Of course not, but our lack of knowledge can keep us from getting to heaven.  The Bible actually says that God's people are destroyed for lack of knowledge.  That is why the Bible being correct matters to me.

Our lack of knowledge will not keep anyone out of heaven if they believe in Jesus Christ.

I was actually going to post a very similar thought, bopeep.  I will add that as long as a believer has the basics down (and we all know what those are,)  accepts Jesus as the Messiah and follows Him then I'm sure they will be okay.  I'm not a Bible memorizer myself; I'm more of a look it up as I have the need type of learner.  For some, the KJV is simply too hard to read and, if other versions keep them reading and learning, then they shouldn't worry about it.  It's not like they're reading the Qu'ran.

I do not do well with memorization.I have a couple of verses memorized but that is it.

[hmbld]

Or maybe they are collecting all non-KJV to destroy these " corrupted" copies? 

I can only hope that is the case. 

Appreciate your conviction, yet some simply have trouble reading the version you accept, so I hope that is not the case lol.  Just stating the unknown can't really be judged by us.