DID YOU CHOOSE GOD ! ,OR DID HE ALREADY CHOOSED YOU ?

[MorningGlory]

14 hours ago, OakWood said:

If God cannot change his mind then he has no power at all.  With God all things are possible, yet you are saying that it is impossible for him to change his mind.

Good point.

[Guest shiloh357]

8 minutes ago, MorningGlory said:

14 hours ago, OakWood said:

If God cannot change his mind then he has no power at all.  With God all things are possible, yet you are saying that it is impossible for him to change his mind.

 

Again, in order to say that God can change his mind, then we need to say that it is possible for God to be in error.   Do you really want to go down that road??   For God to change his mind, means that we don't really have much of a guarantee of salvation.   How do you know that God won't say, "you know, I have decided to change my mind about saving mankind?"  

Your notion that God can literally change his mind calls into question who God is, and whether or not we can really trust Him.     When it says that with God all things are possible, it is within a certain context and is not to be taken at face value.   The Bible teaches that it is impossible for God to lie or to sin.   It is impossible for God to die. 

There are things that are impossible with God.  You are taking a very shallow, face-value approach to this issue and you are not really thinking it through when it comes to how it affects the promises that God has made to us as Christians.    How can we have any assurance of salvation if, at any moment, God could call off salvation, change his mind and cancel the second coming of Jesus, and decide to just send us all to hell, after all??   You need to really stop and consider the very real theological implications of what would happen to us if God changes his mind.

[Littlelambseativy]

How do you square the argument that God can change (His mind) with Malachi 3:8 I am the Lord I do not change.

 

[Your closest friendnt]

Jesus has died, that will never change, (that 's why the scripture says that they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb and their testimony), and  he is raised from the dead and he is sitted on the Throne and he has all authority, God gave it to him, everything God had he gave it to Jesus and that can never change. 

Even if someone suggest that if he change his mind, which it is impossible, ( and no one can make it possible by saying "with God all things are possible", cause even if someone does, he is not within the contex. Even Jesus when he was chalenge he did not say that, but he said; you shall not tempt God, and go behind me Satan.

Jesus is stuck with us, whether he is please with us or not.

[Your closest friendnt]

11 minutes ago, Littlelambseativy said:

How do you square the argument that God can change (His mind) with Malachi 3:8 I am the Lord I do not change.

 

You can figure it out for yourself, It is self explainatory, you don't need someone to help you with that, just study the contex, and why he said that. 

You have added "his Mind" is that within the context, and within what specific matter that he is addressing and what was the need that he had to say that.

Because with the new covenant many and a lot of things have change, and there some things that we don't know them yet but they have change. And consider one more thing so as to be politically correct, is that the Lord God has actually change. He left everything, the former Glory to become like the children, and bring the redeemed  children to God in the Heavens, and God Honour him and he gave a Glory grater than the Glory he had before. Which Glory he could not have it before unless he humble him self to become like the children and obey his Father all the way to the Cross. 

[Guest shiloh357]

29 minutes ago, Littlelambseativy said:

How do you square the argument that God can change (His mind) with Malachi 3:8 I am the Lord I do not change.

 

precisely.

[Your closest friendnt]

The Lord God he gave famine many times, and some times to the very extrem and an oppressor with a great army, that they resorted after there were no more mice, cats and dogs left or any other unclean animal, that they ate their children.

The manna was not falling on the dessert seven days but six.

Manny of them were born, grow old and died, in the dessert and the only food that they had was Manna. They never tasted any other food, and they never show the vegetation grow and the fruits and the flowers, and the rain, and many of the animals, wondering if the animals survived, and if they did, which I doubt it, was it on Manna?

And all the people eaten by the Lions and also crousified the centuries ahead of Christ, was is because of there obedience or their disobedience? 

 

[SINNERSAVED]

3 hours ago, shiloh357 said:

That is not saying anything about God needing to correct a mistake or change his mind.   It was a statement made by pagan sailors who didn't know God.   I would not that verse to build any kind of doctrine on.

huh.....

[gdemoss]

God changes his mind without changing his person.  

I was his enemy so he sent a messanger to me to reconcile me unto himself.  I was lost and dead in tresspass and sin.  Gods ears were closed unto my prayers until I received His messanger and righteously approached Him in humility agreeing with Him about what he said of me.  He changed His mind about me because I changed my face.

God changes not.  God changes His position on the created thing when said created thing changes its position with sin.

I have to conform unto God.  The more I do that the more He changes His mind about me.  I have increased in favor with God as I have been proven to walk with Him and be as He is in this world.  Praise God that I can change through the faith operation of God who molds me at my request to be like Him. For I am ashamed everytime it is revealed that I am not yet molded into His perfect selfless image.

[Your closest friendnt]

19 minutes ago, SINNERSAVED said:

huh.....

I have to be carefull, not to assume that I know or that I figure this one out, and even if somehow I do, you can always say, or change your mind or perhaps hide from me, and say; that's not it. Because that could mean more than one thing.

God can change his mind as you can see in the story of Jonas, to us good when he started by intending to do harm. Because he is merciful and kind and he rewards repentance with good istand of bad or punishment. 

If in the old when he had a rule ofan eye against eye he did that, how about today when he was still here on earth and before he shed the blood of the new covenant he was practicing no more an eye against eye, but forgiveness, turn the other chick, mercy, having more than one coat and giving away the other, been himself punish for us, died for us, many things he change so he can do good to us.  

Thank you for your huh.... I work around it.