Alan Hales Posted January 21, 2016 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 9 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 406 Content Per Day: 0.13 Reputation: 102 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/14/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted January 21, 2016 The difference between natural facts and Biblical truths. A natural fact is, “Information used as evidence”, for instance, a pain in a person’s body, Is informing them that it’s evident that something is wrong. [And that is a natural fact]. But the Biblical truth says, by the stripes of Jesus we are healed, Jesus has taken our sicknesses, Infirmities and pains. And faith in what the Bible says, will always overrule natural facts. Once as I was scrolling through the TV channels, I saw Sherlock Holmes, and he said to Watson, “We have been looking at the facts, we need to look at the truth”. What are you looking at today, The natural facts, or the Biblical truths?. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angels4u Posted January 21, 2016 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 56 Topic Count: 1,664 Topics Per Day: 0.20 Content Count: 19,764 Content Per Day: 2.39 Reputation: 12,164 Days Won: 28 Joined: 08/22/2001 Status: Offline Share Posted January 21, 2016 Amen- You said: But the Biblical truth says, by the stripes of Jesus we are healed, Jesus has taken our sicknesses, Isaiah .53:5 …4Surely our griefs He Himself bore, And our sorrows He carried; Yet we ourselves esteemed Him stricken, Smitten of God, and afflicted.5But He was pierced through for our transgressions, He was crushed for our iniquities; The chastening for our well-being fell upon Him, And by His scourging we are healed.6All of us like sheep have gone astray, Each of us has turned to his own way; But the LORD has caused the iniquity of us all To fall on Him.… Jesus went to the cross to die for our sins and through His stripes we are healed ! (He forgave and forgives our sins if we accept Him as our personal Lord and Savior) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FresnoJoe Posted February 11, 2016 Group: Graduated to Heaven Followers: 207 Topic Count: 60 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 8,651 Content Per Day: 1.17 Reputation: 5,761 Days Won: 4 Joined: 01/31/2004 Status: Offline Birthday: 03/04/1943 Share Posted February 11, 2016 On 1/21/2016 at 4:01 AM, Alan Hales said: The difference between natural facts and Biblical truths. A natural fact is, “Information used as evidence”, for instance, a pain in a person’s body, Is informing them that it’s evident that something is wrong. [And that is a natural fact]. But the Biblical truth says, by the stripes of Jesus we are healed, Jesus has taken our sicknesses, Infirmities and pains. And faith in what the Bible says, will always overrule natural facts. Once as I was scrolling through the TV channels, I saw Sherlock Holmes, and he said to Watson.... “We have been looking at the facts, we need to look at the truth”....What are you looking at today, The natural facts.... or the Biblical truths?.... Amen Beloved, The Nature But ask now the beasts, and they shall teach thee; and the fowls of the air, and they shall tell thee: Or speak to the earth, and it shall teach thee: and the fishes of the sea shall declare unto thee. Who knoweth not in all these that the hand of the LORD hath wrought this? In whose hand is the soul of every living thing, and the breath of all mankind. Job 12:7-19 Of The Truth Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father. John 14:12 Is Jesus Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us. Romans 8:34 Love, Your Brother Joe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willa Posted February 16, 2016 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 68 Topic Count: 186 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 14,242 Content Per Day: 3.33 Reputation: 16,658 Days Won: 30 Joined: 08/14/2012 Status: Offline Share Posted February 16, 2016 There may be some error floating around Christian circles in this area. There are "name it and claim it" people who say that in spite of the pain, people should claim that they are healed. So once I did this because they told me my healing is done in heaven so I should confess it as though it were already done. So I did this in spite of considerable neck pain which prevented me from moving my head. As I walked home God started talking to my heart, telling me I had lied. He told me that like a witness in a court, I could only testify to things I had seen, heard, felt, smelled etc. So I repented of my sin as I walked. Within a few hours the pain and stiffness had left me. A doctor cannot investigate symptoms unless he is informed of them. If we go to the doctor and claim we are fine and nothing hurts but we have a broken bone and are experiencing muscle contractions and we hide the swelling, the bone won't be set and won't repair itself properly. I can't imagine the Good Physician healing us if we lie to Him either. Since one of the Hebrew names of God is the God Who heals, we should always acknowledge Him as the ultimate healer. It is God Who created our bodies in a such a way that they can repair themeselves to a large extent most of the time. But help from man is sometimes necessary so that they heal correctly. Sometime God does miracles and repairs things that may take several surgeries, and even does it better. But this is not always the case. Our God is full of grace and tender mercies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vendtre Posted February 17, 2016 Group: Removed from Forums for Breaking Terms of Service Followers: 2 Topic Count: 9 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,420 Content Per Day: 0.47 Reputation: 322 Days Won: 4 Joined: 01/31/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted February 17, 2016 Why does it have to be a choice between the two? God gave us the natural facts and a brain for a reason. To ignore the natural facts is to ignore the creation of God. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplejeff Posted February 17, 2016 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 12 Topic Count: 12 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 7,689 Content Per Day: 2.38 Reputation: 2 Days Won: 20 Joined: 06/30/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted February 17, 2016 The blessings of Abraham. Alan Hales posted a topic in Worthy Welcome The blessings of Abraham. Galatians 3: 29 says, “If you are Christ’s then you are Abraham’s seed and heirs according to the promise”, What Promise, That in Abraham shall all the families of the earth shall be blessed. Look at Yahweh's WORD: That's VERY GOOD ! for everyone included in the PROMISE. On January 21, 2016 at 4:01 AM, Alan Hales said: The difference between natural facts and Biblical truths. A natural fact is, “Information used as evidence”, for instance, a pain in a person’s body, Is informing them that it’s evident that something is wrong. [And that is a natural fact]. But the Biblical truth says, by the stripes of Jesus we are healed, Jesus has taken our sicknesses, Infirmities and pains. And faith in what the Bible says, will always overrule natural facts. Once as I was scrolling through the TV channels, I saw Sherlock Holmes, and he said to Watson, “We have been looking at the facts, we need to look at the truth”. What are you looking at today, The natural facts, or the Biblical truths?. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reinitin Posted February 24, 2016 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 13 Topic Count: 51 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 2,366 Content Per Day: 0.78 Reputation: 2,150 Days Won: 9 Joined: 01/10/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted February 24, 2016 not sure if this is even the natural fact your speaking to But, Paul said, every man is without excuse cause all creation testifies to the truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkins Posted March 4, 2016 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 1 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 289 Content Per Day: 0.05 Reputation: 45 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/25/2008 Status: Offline Share Posted March 4, 2016 On 1/21/2016 at 5:01 AM, Alan Hales said: The difference between natural facts and Biblical truths. A natural fact is, “Information used as evidence”, for instance, a pain in a person’s body, Is informing them that it’s evident that something is wrong. [And that is a natural fact]. But the Biblical truth says, by the stripes of Jesus we are healed, Jesus has taken our sicknesses, Infirmities and pains. And faith in what the Bible says, will always overrule natural facts. Once as I was scrolling through the TV channels, I saw Sherlock Holmes, and he said to Watson, “We have been looking at the facts, we need to look at the truth”. What are you looking at today, The natural facts, or the Biblical truths?. Modern humans are brainwashed by education to think that everything should be evidenced for them to believe. This is not how this reality works. In this reality, humans have to rely on faith to reach a truth. First, there are different categories of truths and not all of them can be evidenced. History, especial the part older than 2000 years, can hardly be evidenced. The nature of history as a category of truths is that it is a result of human witnessing which can hardly be evidenced. An event or a figure was famous enough in the past for humans to choose to record them down, that's basically what history is. All today's humans even lost almost all the first hand documents written in ancient scrolls for any piece of history older than 2000 years. We have to put our faith in believing the existing second handed writings to get a clue on what could possibly happened. Human history as a whole demand faith to believe. Do black holes exist? Is the earth revolving around the sun? 99% humans don't even bother to examine the evidence. Or will you be able to show me your evidence of the existence of black holes ? In the end, we choose to swallow with faith about what have been said by a small group of humans acting as direct witnesses (i.e., those we call scientists) in order to get to such a truth. So even in the case of science, 99% human actually don't have the direct evidence before they get the truth that black holes exist (or do they?). That's the typical way of how a truth is conveyed among humans in our reality! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ezra Posted March 4, 2016 Group: Royal Member Followers: 16 Topic Count: 134 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 8,142 Content Per Day: 2.35 Reputation: 6,612 Days Won: 20 Joined: 11/02/2014 Status: Offline Share Posted March 4, 2016 2 hours ago, Hawkins said: Modern humans are brainwashed by education to think that everything should be evidenced for them to believe. This is not how this reality works. In this reality, humans have to rely on faith to reach a truth. Amen. Blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed (Jn 20:29). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kan Posted March 5, 2016 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 5 Topic Count: 10 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,661 Content Per Day: 0.49 Reputation: 1,292 Days Won: 2 Joined: 12/21/2014 Status: Offline Share Posted March 5, 2016 On 2/11/2016 at 0:37 PM, FresnoJoe said: Amen Beloved, The Nature But ask now the beasts, and they shall teach thee; and the fowls of the air, and they shall tell thee: Or speak to the earth, and it shall teach thee: and the fishes of the sea shall declare unto thee. Who knoweth not in all these that the hand of the LORD hath wrought this? In whose hand is the soul of every living thing, and the breath of all mankind. Job 12:7-19 Of The Truth Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father. John 14:12 Is Jesus Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us. Romans 8:34 Love, Your Brother Joe Even the beasts have it right... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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