YOUR Church has put a DRESS CODE in place!

[kwikphilly]

The funny thing is that Jesus wore garments without "seams",,,,,,,,if anyone wants to do a bit of research of the garments of Jesus day it is very interesting,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,only royalty,kings,emperors had garments that were woven in one piece,,,,,,,regular folks could not afford or take the time & laborious effort to do so,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

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John 19:23
When the soldiers crucified Jesus, they took his clothes, dividing them into four shares, one for each of them, with the undergarment remaining. This garment was seamless, woven in one piece from top to bottom.

Generally the soldiers would just tear people clothes & take the material,,,,,,,Jesus garments were divided,not torn......hmmmm?

He dressed as He is,,,,,,,,,,,,,King of kings,Lord of lords             Praise Jesus                      With love-in Christ,Kwik

[Lavender]

Women wear pants for different reasons.  There are other pants than jeans such as dress pants.

What if a woman is wearing pants because of a problem with her legs that she is trying to hide? 

What if a woman is wearing pants because she feels vulnerable wearing skirts or dresses whereas she feels safer wearing pants? 

What if a woman is wearing pants because she has worn them since leaving school and hasn't worn a dress or skirt since?  Not because she is trying to be like a man but because she just doesn't feel comfortable wearing skirts or dresses.

What if a woman is wearing pants because they are warmer than skirts and dresses? 

What if a woman is wearing pants because they are more practical for carrying out the tasks she needs to do that day?

There are probably other reasons women wear pants that I can't think of at the moment.

19 hours ago, Butero said:

Jeans clearly are not feminine, just as a flowery dress is not masculine.  We recognize this immediately with men, but with women, they can wear anything and nobody cares.   

 

 

[Guest Thallasa]

On ‎08‎/‎04‎/‎2016 at 9:58 PM, hmbld said:

Great. Now I gotta find a seamless one piece tunic!!

  

[Guest Thallasa]

16 hours ago, Ezra said:

What Christians generally forget is that we are a Royal Priesthood.  At the very least we should see what God expected from His priests in terms of dress and outward appearance (which were to conform to inward purity also).  Scripture calls them "holy garments -- for glory and for beauty" (Exod 28:2).  The principles are there in the Torah, and all these things are given for our learning.

 In my opinion , modesty and an effort to cleanliness ,is all that is reasonable . People will end up not going if it is too strict , but if reasonable , it can be enforced , in especially not  having the attention drawn to the body . Jeans ,trousers does'nt matter, but they should not show the contours of their body , they should be loose  around the derriere  parts..

I do not want to be staring a a b..... in front of me . Bad enough, when you can escape from the sight but in front of one for at least an hour  ?       

[LadyKay]

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You couldn't tell if Pat was a man or a woman based on clothing or hair style, and he was trying to find out. 

I have never been mistaken for a man by putting on a pair of jeans. Even with my jeans on I still clearly look like a women. Anyway, just for info. Women jeans are "women's clothing" because jeans made for women are cut differently then jeans made for men. A man would not to able to wear a pair of women's jeans very well and the same goes for a women trying to wear a pair of men jeans. They just won't fit right. Therefor if I am wearing jeans made for a women, I am wearing women's clothing and not in violation of the Old Testament Law that you say we are suppose to be following. I am guessing the same was true back in Bible days. Women's robs were cut and made differently then men's robes. But they still robes and everyone wore them.

[kwikphilly]

Blessings Lavender(Sweet Lavender)

    My sentiments exactly,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Personally, I do not know why any person does what they do unless they tell me & even then I still am not the one they have to answer to ............it is,in my opinion,between them & God........it is not for me to judge them I can only hold myself accountable to do what I am lead to do,,,,,I can share that with others & if they are convicted as I am ,then so be it & if not,,,,,,,it has nothing to do with me & I have no opinion on what they choose to do(or wear etc,,,)

   I had a dear friend tell me that she is just amazed how people these days sit in church playing & texting on their phones,,,I said" how do you know they are not looking up the Scriptures referred to in the sermon?" And she replied,"Well,I didn't realize that because I don't have a cell phone & know nothing about them..."  

   I think it is very much the same thing when we see people walking in to church with a sloppy or what we may consider"less than appropriate" attire for church,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,we have no idea about the Relationship between that person & the Lord,if we are presented with a "ministry moment" & that person "asks",we can answer according to what the Holy Spirit prompts us to say,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,for them,& I leave it at that,,,,,,,just my 2 cents-lol

                                        God Bless you Sweet Sister,you are well on your way to taking the High Road,you are off to a beautiful & fantastic journey with Jesus!                                                                With love-in Christ,Kwik

[LadyKay]

3 hours ago, Butero said:

I know of women that wear jeans manufactured and sold as men's clothes all the time, and I ran into a guy in California wearing pants that belonged to his girlfriend, and you wouldn't have know if he hadn't said so.  There are times where you can't tell it is a woman.  Not all women have obvious curves because of their weight.  Some have deep voices.  Some have short hair.  The fact is, that it doesn't matter if you can tell it is a woman, anymore than it matters if you can tell a man in drag when you see him.  I don't look at it as ok if I see a man wearing a dress just because I can point to him and say to myself, that is a guy in a dress.  He is still committing sin. 

What are you so angry about? This was a topic was about church dress codes. How did we get on men wearing dresses? I'm really confused here. Do you mean to say that if you see a women in jeans you can't tell that it is a women? There for since you can't tell that its a women  the women is committing a sin?  

[MorningGlory]

6 hours ago, Butero said:

It doesn't make a hill of beans of difference.  I could ask the same questions about a guy.

What if a man wears a dress for different reasons?  There are different kinds of dresses, from those with a flowery print to jean skirts.

What if a man is wearing a skirt because his skin gets chaffed if he wears pants?

What if a man wears a skirt or dress because he feels like it gives him a force field around his whole body and he is safer than when he wears pants?

What if a man wears a skirt or dress because he read the book, "Jessie's Dream Skirt" and started wearing dresses and skirts back to when he was a child?  It is not that he is a homosexual or intentionally looking at it as he is dressing like a girl, but he just feels more at home in a dress?

What if a man wears a dress because they are more comfortable in a hot climate?

What if a man wears a dress because they don't keep sliding down all the time when he is working, and he hates suspenders?

There are many what ifs to excuse people committing sin.  We use similar excuses with thieves for instance.  What if a man steals because he is hungry and he plans to steal your property to pawn it and buy food?  It is still theft.  The answer is that it doesn't matter.  It is also a fact that most women wore a dress all the time until the 20th century, and the majority did most of the time until the 60s and 70s.  They did so for all tasks.  Amish women still do that today, and many live in very cold climates. 

Sorry, Butero, but in my line of work I sometimes have to be up on the catwalks over the heads of dozens of men.  I would not be up there in a dress........ever!  You simply can't cover every situation and person with the same statements.  I would be indecent and immodest climbing ladders and walking up there in a dress.  As for church, I think a dress is best but I HAVE worn slacks, jeans and pant suits; it depends on the accepted dress of the women in the church.

[hmbld]

10 minutes ago, Butero said:

I will try to address both MG and Lady Kay.  First, to Lady Kay.  Yes, that was the original topic, but since I made reference to the fact I would be more likely to leave a church for letting down standards and that I considered women wearing pants to church sinful, it went down this road.  I made reference to men in a dress to show how hypocritical many women and even some men are.  Both men and women will attack men that wear a dress, but they defend women in pants.  Let me show you how silly I find this double standard.

Lets suppose that a guy wants to wear a prom dress instead of a tux to his High School Prom.  If I use your standards for women, he would be just fine to do so if he has the dress made for him.  That means it will automatically be a man's dress.  Then he must make sure you can tell he is a man.  So long as he meets those two criteria, he meets your smell test, the same one you use to defend women wearing jeans. 

To MG, there are ways a woman can wear a dress and be completely decent in a situation like that.  For one thing, in a case that extreme, they could wear leggings and a dress over them.  Some women actually wear them alone.  Problem solved, and the woman still looks feminine.  In addition to that, there is no reason for a woman who did work in a job where she had to wear pants to wear them anytime while off work. 

I wonder where you came to learn men must wear pants, and women must wear dresses.  Is this applicable worldwide?  I have ancestors from Scotland.  

[Lavender]

11 minutes ago, Butero said:

I am saying that pants pertain to a man and dresses to a woman.  

You mostly keep mentioning dresses.  Do you distinguish between dresses and skirts?  Are they both acceptable in your eyes?