No One Knows about that Day or Hour

[missmuffet]

13 minutes ago, MorningGlory said:

That is denying Scripture where we are told that no one knows, not even Jesus Himself.

God the Father,God the Son and God the Holy Spirit are the only ones who know when Jesus will come back.

Question: "If Jesus was God, why did He not know when He would return?"

Answer: Speaking of Jesus' Second Coming, Matthew 24:36 (and Mark 13:32) tells us, “No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.”

When Jesus spoke these words to the disciples, even He had no knowledge of the date and time of His return. Although Jesus was fully God (John 1:1, 14), when He became a man, He voluntarily restricted the use of certain divine attributes (Philippians 2:6–8). He did not manifest them unless directed by the Father (John 4:34; 5:30; 6:38). He demonstrated His omniscience on several occasions (cf. John 2:25; 3:13), but He voluntarily restricted that omniscience to only those things God wanted Him to know during the days of His humanity (John 15:15). Such was the case regarding the knowledge of the date and time of His return. After He was resurrected, Jesus resumed His full divine knowledge (cf. Matthew 28:18; Acts 1:7).

Matthew 24:36 clearly states that the Father alone knows when Jesus' return will be. Verses such as John 5:30; 6:38; 8:28-29; 10:30; 12:49; 14:28, 31; and Matthew 26:39, 42 demonstrate Jesus' submission to the Father as well as their Oneness in the Godhead. Yes, they are both God. But some things Jesus had apparently chosen to "give up the rights" to be privy to during His earthly ministry (see Philippians 2:5-11). Jesus, now exalted in Heaven, surely knows all, including the timing of His Second Coming.

http://www.gotquestions.org/Jesus-know-return.html

[Montana Marv]

3 hours ago, WilliamL said:

Saying "no one knows," and saying "no one will ever know," are two entirely different things: but you keep on insisting on making them the same.

William

We will know when the Rapture happens when it happens and not before (unexpected, when one least expects it).  Yes one will not know until the event happens.  Then we will know and Jesus Christ will know as He will have caught up His Bride..

If one says that the Holy Spirit revealed to them when the Rapture will happen,  they have been deceived.  For Only God the Father Knows its time.  If one says that the Scripture has revealed the time of the Rapture, they also are deceived, because Only God the Father Knows.

What else do you want to know.  When the Father reveals to the Son, go fetch your Bride and bring her up, it will be known to most all.  Until that time it will remain a mystery.

In Christ

Montana Marv

[Montana Marv]

2 hours ago, Marilyn C said:

The Lord Jesus Christ seated at the  right hand of the Father, in the Godhead, says to His Body (Body of Christ) by His Holy Spirit, -

 

`But you, brethren are NOT IN DARKNESS, that that day  should over take you as a thief. You are children of the light....`(1 Thess. 5: 4 & 5)

`...exhorting one another, & so much more as you see the day approaching.` (Heb. 10: 25)

 

Marilyn.

 

 

 

Marilyn

So do see the day approaching.  There is one clue.  As in the days of Noah, there was eating and drinking, marrying and given in marriage before Noah entered the Ark..  This environment exists now and has for the past 40 or 50 years, but it getting worse.  Gays are now allowed to marry in some States.  Mankind is in decline and retro-bate.

In Christ

Montana Marv

[WilliamL]

3 hours ago, SINNERSAVED said:

  Matthew 24:36   But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.

This is the verse Marv says 'proves' no one will ever know beforehand when Jesus will come.

These are the verses that immediately follow that verse:

3 hours ago, SINNERSAVED said:

Matthew 24:37   But as the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

  Matthew 24:38   For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark,

  Matthew 24:39   And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

This is what Scripture tells us about what Noah knew:

Gen. 7:1 Then the LORD said to Noah, ...   4 “For after seven more days I will cause it to rain on the earth forty days and forty nights, and I will destroy from the face of the earth all living things that I have made.”

So obviously these verses, taken with the above from Matt. 24:37-39, 'prove' that we will know 7 days beforehand when the Lord will come!

 

See how much we can "prove" from one single passage? Amazing, isn't it? The Bible is so simple to understand when we read it this way....

[SINNERSAVED]

1 minute ago, WilliamL said:

This is the verse Marv says 'proves' no one will ever know beforehand when Jesus will come.

These are the verses that immediately follow that verse:

This is what Scripture tells us about what Noah knew:

Gen. 7:1 Then the LORD said to Noah, ...   4 “For after seven more days I will cause it to rain on the earth forty days and forty nights, and I will destroy from the face of the earth all living things that I have made.”

So obviously these verses, taken with the above from Matt. 24:37-39, 'prove' that we will know 7 days beforehand when the Lord will come!

 

See how much we can "prove" from one single passage? Amazing, isn't it? The Bible is so simple to understand when we read it this way....

that was good, and having the scriptures available in a chapter also helps to know what the verses are talking about , we cannot ever pick and choose any verse we want and not read it in its context,

 great job William, thank you and blessings to you

[ENOCH2010]

3 hours ago, MorningGlory said:

Thank you, SS.  You just posted most of the verses that speak to the PreTrib Rapture. Can't get much clearer.

MG please read Mat 24:29 again, it says AFTER the tribulations .........  NOT pre-trib

[MorningGlory]

7 minutes ago, ENOCH2010 said:

MG please read Mat 24:29 again, it says AFTER the tribulations .........  NOT pre-trib

It says after the tribulations of those days.....it does NOT say after The Tribulation. 

 

[MorningGlory]

1 hour ago, Montana Marv said:

Marilyn

So do see the day approaching.  There is one clue.  As in the days of Noah, there was eating and drinking, marrying and given in marriage before Noah entered the Ark..  This environment exists now and has for the past 40 or 50 years, but it getting worse.  Gays are now allowed to marry in some States.  Mankind is in decline and retro-bate.

In Christ

Montana Marv

Just to be precise.........gays are allowed to marry in every state thanks to the Supreme Court decision of 2015.

[ENOCH2010]

6 minutes ago, MorningGlory said:

It says after the tribulations of those days.....it does NOT say after The Tribulation. 

 

WOW !!

[Montana Marv]

29 minutes ago, WilliamL said:

This is the verse Marv says 'proves' no one will ever know beforehand when Jesus will come.

These are the verses that immediately follow that verse:

This is what Scripture tells us about what Noah knew:

Gen. 7:1 Then the LORD said to Noah, ...   4 “For after seven more days I will cause it to rain on the earth forty days and forty nights, and I will destroy from the face of the earth all living things that I have made.”

So obviously these verses, taken with the above from Matt. 24:37-39, 'prove' that we will know 7 days beforehand when the Lord will come!

 

See how much we can "prove" from one single passage? Amazing, isn't it? The Bible is so simple to understand when we read it this way....

The comparison is before the flood; eating, drinking, marrying and giving in marriage.  So shall it be with with the coming of the Lord (Rapture), not the 2nd Coming.  This environment exists right now, not so when people are hiding in caves for there will be no eating, drinking, marrying and giving in marriage., before the 2nd Coming.

In Christ

Montana Marv