Why do people say, Catholics are Christians ?

[kwikphilly]

Blessings Dove,,,,Spidey

     You do not have to answer to anyone but the Lord,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,I am done with this thread,it is unedifying & nonsense,,,,,,,,,,,,the anti-catholic tag team is not something worth responding to,,,,,,,,,,,,Pray for them Worthy Family                         Love,Kwik

[MorningGlory]

2 minutes ago, kwikphilly said:

Blessings Dove,,,,Spidey

     You do not have to answer to anyone but the Lord,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,I am done with this thread,it is unedifying & nonsense,,,,,,,,,,,,the anti-catholic tag team is not something worth responding to,,,,,,,,,,,,Pray for them Worthy Family                         Love,Kwik

I agree, Kwik.  They do need prayer, as we all do.

[Guest]

1 minute ago, algots said:

You yourself admitted that the Catholic Bible has man-made books that are elevated to Scripture, remember?

Anything you disapprove is man made huh? A bunch of little Popes in here LOL

[spiderman1917]

5 minutes ago, algots said:

Answer the question. Who are these friends in heaven and why do they pray?

 

Luke Chapter 16 talks about the Rich man going to Abraham's bosom and Abraham talking to the Rich man.  Obviously Abraham was concerned about him and alive in Heaven.

Revelation 5:8, where John depicts the saints in heaven offering our prayers to God under the form of "golden bowls full of incense, which are the prayers of the saints." But if the saints in heaven are offering our prayers to God, then they must be aware of our prayers.  If they are aware of our prayers...then they must be aware of us...and if they are one in mind and heart with God....and we are one body in Christ as Scripture says...then they care about us and want to help.

On Mount Tabor we see Moses and Elijah appearing to the Apostles. 

Hebrews 12:1  Wherefore seeing we also are compassed about with so great a cloud of witnesses, ""

Im not telling you to do what goes against your conscience.  I'm simply saying it isn't Satanic.  If you want to say that asking the Saints for help is worthless, then you can I'm sure give a good reason for why you believe it is worthless.  

  It actually is not condemned anywhere.  Mediums are condemned, necromancy, voodoo, and Seances are condemned in Scripture, but such things are also condemned by Catholicism.

[Your closest friendnt]

1 minute ago, Joline said:

Anything you disapprove is man made huh? A bunch of little Popes in here LOL

That's is an excellent statement.

[1to3]

44 minutes ago, SINNERSAVED said:

you are promoting man made traditions which is a abomination to God it is all in the bible and you have had your agenda?  , and it is out in the open now so you was not honest to start with and now it un folds , you cannot go against the bible , or continue to Sin and say , you believe, it make no sense why would you attempt to test everyone and not only that, if you are placing God first , and know the bible , you already know this, but hey you do what you want and gather others to your way of thinking , for it is not the ways of God, and you have been told, it is not scriptural , and you are leading others astray , like in your other posts, and so you have been found out ?

Well, well, well

Spoken by a someone who created a post endorsing the reading of Enoch as a good supplement to the bible?But chastising with your budy, a young man and accusing him of all sort of accusations?

There i was reading the post never hearing much about the books of Enoch and was going along the la-di-da path of reading along with those including you SS endorsing it and than when I began to look it up and read it for myself, something in me stopped me, something was very wrong  and I had to pray about it.

I truly was grieved when i wrote from Holy Scripture from the bible that I this book is wrong.You can truly mislead a new christian by endorsing reading this fantasy garbage

But how you come down on others so fiercely . WOW!

what did I get from You SS and your buddy?

You called me all kinds of untruths and your buddy went along to say that i should be reported because I said that I did not think this book of Enoch was o.k?

Interesting you said nothing to Patrioch who also disagreed with that book.

Its o.k for you to endorse the book of Enoch but  hey  because you think its o.k well than it is?

The book of Enoch is no more endorsed by the Holy Word of God in the format that you expose- on than are using of beads to pray. And my posts exposed that.

 

What did I get from You SS and your buddy?

You called me all kinds of untruths and your buddy went along to say that i should be reported

Interesting you said nothing to Patriot who also disagreed with that book.

 

 

 

[Guest]

30 minutes ago, algots said:

Answer the question. Who are these friends in heaven and why do they pray?

 

Here is an excerpt from wiki concerning the communion of the saints...................................

The persons who are linked in this communion include those who have died and whom Hebrews 12:1 pictures as a cloud of witnesses encompassing Christians on earth. In the same chapter, Hebrews 12:22-23 says Christians on earth "have come to Mount Zion, and to the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to innumerable angels in festal gathering, and to the assembly of the firstborn who are enrolled in heaven, and to a judge who is God of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect."

Roman Catholic, Orthodox, and Anglican views[edit]

In Catholic terminology, the communion of saints is thus said to comprise the church militant (those alive on earth), the church penitent (those undergoing purification in purgatory in preparation for heaven), and the church triumphant (those already in heaven). The damned are not a part of the communion of saints. The Roman Catholic Church, the Old Catholic Church, the Eastern Orthodox Church, the Oriental Orthodox Church, the Church of the East and some elements in the Anglican Communion point to this doctrine in support of their practice of asking the intercession of saints in heaven, whose prayers (cf. Revelation 5:8) are seen as helping their fellow Christians on earth.^[5]

Roman Catholic and Orthodox churches refer to this doctrine in support of the practice of praying for the dead (as they interpret 2 Timothy 1:16-18). The Anglican tradition has been ambivalent about prayers for the dead historically, sometimes embracing and other times rejecting the practice.

[Hippie333]

Locked -

The reason this thread is locked -

"When you are right ...and go about it the wrong way ....YOU are wrong" - to again have to make a point of this with the same people ... while you have the ability and the knowledge to have an extremely educational ...and good discussion, you have turned it into a board full of clanging cymbals. We have repeatedly publicly and privately asked for this type of behavior to stop. Being right in your theology does not give one person here the right to put themselves over another and speak to them like they are incapable of having a loving , decent discussion. While this thread ( and others involving you guys and gals) contains a great deal of good information...it's TOTALLY DEVOID OF ANY LOVE.... I am sure myself and the other moderators don't have to point fingers at people and name names.... this is the last warning on the subject of speaking as gentle as a dove to others I want to give the same group of people. The next action is time off / or permanent time off. Please consider how you type things out when debating/discussing items on the boards.... ALL OF US HAVE THE ABILITY TO PROOF READ....WAIT TO HIT ENTER.... PRAY ABOUT IT.... EVEN WAIT 24HOURS BEFORE RESPONDING....whatever it takes to control ourselves... Please and thank you...

God Bless,

Hip