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Oneness claims that John 14:10 states that Jesus is God the Father


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2 hours ago, Your closest friendnt said:

where is the everlasting Father. 

Please, The reference to the Scriptures that support with clarity, the message that is supposed to convey. 

When Jesus spoke about baptizing in Matthew 28:19, He said:

 Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,

Jesus Himself called them each as a separate deity.  Father - Son - Holy Spirit - God, being a title as in God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit.

You can also find this in 1 John 5:7

For there are three that bear witness in heaven: the Father, the Word, and the Holy Spirit; and these three are one.

The picture makes perfect sense when placed beside scripture.

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8 hours ago, OneLight said:

What I said, so people will know, is that I believe int eh Trinity.  There are many scriptures that show us this.  So there is no misunderstanding, here is a picture that shows what I believe.

Shield-Trinity-Scutum-Fidei-English.png

That is what I believe also. That is what many people here have tried to get across. But unfortunately, even that diagram is refuted by some of the most amazing nonsense I've encountered in this topic among Christians anywhere. 

Those that say Jesus is not God the son, absolutely cannot be, as example. Sadly , that diagram won't help them I don't believe. 

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1 hour ago, Happinessity said:

That is what I believe also. That is what many people here have tried to get across. But unfortunately, even that diagram is refuted by some of the most amazing nonsense I've encountered in this topic among Christians anywhere. 

Those that say Jesus is not God the son, absolutely cannot be, as example. Sadly , that diagram won't help them I don't believe. 

Do you believe in magic? 

This is a serious question.  and it is a biblical question. 

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Not to but into your conversation, but you should define magic

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8 minutes ago, other one said:

Not to but into your conversation, but you should define magic

Thank you, for not getting offended. 

As we see the Egyptians, at the time of Faraw doing the same magical things Moses  the was doing. 

It is not a good definition, but I am trying to let those magical events define it. 

I am going some place with that. 

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17 minutes ago, Your closest friendnt said:

Do you believe in magic? 

This is a serious question.  and it is a biblical question. 

What would compel you to ask that? 

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1 minute ago, Happinessity said:

What would compel you to ask that? 

I am looking for honest people. 

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7 minutes ago, Your closest friendnt said:

I am looking for honest people. 

I don't know where you are headed, but if I can help yes I do know magic exists

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1 minute ago, other one said:

I don't know where you are headed, but if I can help yes I do know magic exists

Thank you, then when you read the events that happened in Egypt, at the time of Moses, you do not denied them,

with magic it is possible that they may have really happened, and you don't really need a lot to be convinced that they really happened.  

Then you understand that the wars that took place, I making reference to older times, it was not only between the armies but also between the Gods of the warring parties. 

 

 

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5 hours ago, Behold said:

 

Your triangle is one very clear contradiction within itself.

For example.....your triangle states that God is the Son, as long as you dont call God "The Father".

That math does not add up.

Another would be.....that your  triangle states that the Son is not the Holy Spirit.....However, each believer has the Holy Spirit, and this is known as "CHRIST IN YOU".....as in JESUS CHRIST in you, as in Jesus Christ the SON, is in you........yet, its the Holy Spirit.........or as another scripture states.....(Romans 8:1)...."Christ be IN you".

No, it is not a contradiction at all.  The Father is not the Son, nor the Son the Father.  The Father is not the Holy Spirit, nor the Holy Spirit the Father.  Jesus is not the Holy Spirit, nor the Holy Spirit Jesus.  Each are addressed separately in scripture.  What you fail to see is that all three, Father, Son and Holy Spirit, are one in every way, but separate.  I gave scripture in another reply you can see above that demonstrates this.

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