Jesus' Return II

[Guest Thallasa]

On ‎25‎/‎06‎/‎2017 at 5:27 PM, iamlamad said:

Truth! But some people wear preconceived glasses that prevent them from reading and understanding the intent of the Author. They read into scripture their preconceived theories.

How true  , and what a problem for the truth !! 

[Guest Thallasa]

1 hour ago, HAZARD said:

 

 Sorry, Jerusalem is not Mystery Babylon, never was, never will be. The rcc will be in kahoots with the antichrist in some way or another during the tribulation. She's been leading people to the pits of hell since the days of Nimrod.

 

The city Babylon was built by Nimrod, the mighty hunter (Gen. 10:8-10). It was the seat of the first great apostasy against God after the flood. Here the Babylonian Cult was invented by Nimrod and his Queen, Semiramis. It was a system claiming the highest wisdom and ability to reveal the most divine secrets. This cult was characterized by the word "Mystery" because of its mysteries. Beside confessing to the priests at admission to this cult, one was compelled to drink of "mysterious beverages," which says Salvert (Des Sciences Occultes, Page 259) was indespensible on the part of those who saught initation into these mysteries.

 

The "mysterious beverages' were composed of wine, honey, water, and flour. They were always of an intoxicating nature, and untill the aspirants had come under the influence of it and had their understanding dimmed they were not prepared for what they were to see and hear. The method was to introduce privately, little by little, information under seal of secrecy and sanction of oath that would be impossible to reveal otherwise.

 

This has been the policy of the Roman Church and the secret of the power of the priests over the lives of men whom they could expose to the world for their sins that have been confessed to them. Once admitted, men were no longer Babylonians, Assyrians, or Egyptians, but were members of a mystical brotherhood, over whom was placed a Supreme Pontif or High Priest whos word was final in all things in thelives of the brotherhood regardless of the country in which they lived. The ostensible objects of worship were the Supreme Father, the Incarnate Female or Queen of Heaven, and her Son. The last two were only objects of worship, as the Supreme Father was said not to interfere with mortal affaires (Nimrod 111, Page 239).

 

This system is believed to have come from fallen angels and demons. The object of the cult was to rule the world by these dogmas. Much more can be said but to simplify things, Damasus, Bishop of the Christian Church at Rome, was elected to the office of Supreme Pontif. He had been bishop for twelve years, having been made suchin 366 A. D. through influence of the monks of Mount Carmel, a college of the Babylonian religion originally founded by the priests of Jezebel and continued to this day in connection with Rome. So, in 378 A. D., the babylonian system of religion became part of Christendom, for the bishop of Rome, who later became the supreme head of the organized church, was already Supreme Pontiff of the Babylonian Order. All the teachings of pagan Babylon and Rome were gradually interspersed into the Christian religious organization. Soon after Damasus was made Supreme Pontiff, the rites of Babylon began to come to the front. The worship of the Roman Church became babylonish, and under him, the heathen temples were restored and beautified and the rituals established. Thus, the currupt religious system under the figure of a woman with a golden cup in her hand, making all nations drunk with her fornication, is called by God "MYSTERY BABYLON THE GREAT."

The first practice that grew up after this union was the introduction of the worship of the saints, especially of the virgin Mary. Thousands of pagans entered the church in those days who were accustomed to worshiping the gods of towns and places, who were not thoroughly Christianized. The veneration of saints and holy men became a worship. Saints were considered lesser dieties, whos intercession availed with God. Places connected with the lives of holy men were considered sacred and pilgrimages were started. Relics or bones of saints were believed to have miraculous power. The worship of the virgin Mary was set up in 381 A. D., three years after Damasus became bead of the Babylonian Cult.

Just as the Babylonian cult worshiped the "Queen of Heaven and her Son" and did not worship the Supreme Father because he simply did not interfere with mortal affairs, so the Roman Chrurch has a similar worship in that they worship Mary as the mother of God and her Son. The image of mother and child was an object of worship in Babylon long before Christ was born. From Babylon it spread to the ends of the Earth. The original mother was Semiramis, the beautiful queen of Nimrod, who was a paragon of unbridled lust and licentiousness.

In the "mysteries," which she had the chief part in forming, she was worshiped as Rhea (Chronicon Paschal, Volume 1, Page 65), the great "Mother of the God's" with such atrocious rites as identified her with Venus, the mother of all impurity. She raised Babylon, where she reigned to eminence among the nations as the great seat idolatry and consecrated prostetution (Hesiod, Theogonia, Volume 36, Page 435). The apocalyptic emblem of the harlot with cup in hand was one of idolatry derived from ancient Babylon, as they were exhibited in Greece, for thus the Greek Venus was originally represented (Herodotus, Historia, Book 1, cap. 199, Page 92).

Ironicilly the Roman Church has taken this as her emblem. In 1825 a medal was struck bearing the image of Pope Leo X11 on one side and on the other side Rome symbolized by a woman with a cross in her left hand and a cup in her right hand and a legend around her "Sedet Super Universum"; that is, "The whole world is her seat."

From this original practice, practically all nations have copied a similar worship, but in each land the same figure is carried out under different names. In Egypt the mother and child are known as Isis and Osiris; in India, Isi and Iswara; in Eastern Asia, Cybel and Deoius; in pagan Rome, Fortuna and Jupiter-puer; In Greece, Ceres or as Irene with Plutus in arms, etc. In Thibet, China, and Japan the Jesuits were suprised to find the counterpart of the madonna (the Italian name for virgin) and her child as devoutly worshiped as in Rome itself. Shing Moo, the mother of China, is there represented with child in her arms and a glory around her exactly as if a Roman artist had paintd her. Where did these nations get this common worship if not from Babylon before the dispersion by God in the days of Nimrod (Gen. 11). Thus the worship of Mary in connection with her Son is of Babylonian origin for there is no mention of such worshipin Scripture.

  I will ignore this .......

[HAZARD]

1 minute ago, Thallasa said:

  I will ignore this .......

That's how you learn. Catholics ignore many of Gods scriptures.

[Guest Thallasa]

25 minutes ago, HAZARD said:

That's how you learn. Catholics ignore many of Gods scriptures.

You can read the scriptures till the cows come home ",but  will be ever hearing (reading ) ,but not understanding , ever seeing but never perceiving "....

If I am a Catholic ,then I am a very old one ,before the RCC established in Ireland ,but you will not understand  such things .

 

[Anonymous Aristotle]

1 hour ago, HAZARD said:

 

 Sorry, Jerusalem is not Mystery Babylon, never was, never will be. The rcc will be in kahoots with the antichrist in some way or another during the tribulation. She's been leading people to the pits of hell since the days of Nimrod.

 

The city Babylon was built by Nimrod, the mighty hunter (Gen. 10:8-10). It was the seat of the first great apostasy against God after the flood. Here the Babylonian Cult was invented by Nimrod and his Queen, Semiramis. It was a system claiming the highest wisdom and ability to reveal the most divine secrets. This cult was characterized by the word "Mystery" because of its mysteries. Beside confessing to the priests at admission to this cult, one was compelled to drink of "mysterious beverages," which says Salvert (Des Sciences Occultes, Page 259) was indespensible on the part of those who saught initation into these mysteries.

I've shortened your post brother to ask for clarification on the part about the city of Babylon, Nimrod, the Babylonian cult, and Queen Semiramis. 

From which of Noah's family did Nimrod spring? And Queen Semiramis? 

 

[fixerupper]

1 hour ago, HAZARD said:

The great whore is not Jerusalem, never was, never will be. And, the Antichrist will only have power and rule over the revised old Roman Empire. The rest of the world may be affected in some ways but the antichrist will not rule America, Australia or any country outside the Old Roman Empire territory.

I must have asked you, what Roman Empire is prophesied?  

[Anonymous Aristotle]

8 minutes ago, Thallasa said:

You can read the scriptures till the cows come home ",but  will be ever hearing (reading ) ,but not understanding , ever seeing but never perceiving "....

If I am a Catholic ,then I am a very old one ,before the RCC established in Ireland ,but you will not understand  such things .

 

May I say you look maaaaavelous, for your age if you're a Catholic in Ireland.  

[Guest Thallasa]

12 minutes ago, Anonymous Aristotle said:

May I say you look maaaaavelous, for your age if you're a Catholic in Ireland.  

Well I am not now in Ireland ,but in France ,and have the gift of a long view ,very long .

I like the humour . My views on much of the bible do not correspond with either  the RCC, or the  Reform Church . Yes I am very old, as I was reborn a long long time time ago .

Edited June 26, 2017 by Thallasa

[Anonymous Aristotle]

11 minutes ago, Thallasa said:

Well I am not now in Ireland ,but in France ,and have the gift of a long view ,very long .

I like the humour . My views on much of the bible do not correspond with either  the RCC, or the  Reform Church . Yes I am very old, as I was reborn a long long time time ago .

Ah, OK. I saw the Ireland reference and thought you lived on the Emerald isle. 

You're as young as you feel you know.  (touches self) Oh, great, I'm 160. 

 

[Sister]

5 hours ago, iamlamad said:

I disagree. The moment we were born again we entered everlasting life.

The reward will probably be how many cities we will judge.

iamlamad

Why do you disagree?  I am looking for more scriptures, have you got any?

I always preached that we will be picked up, then Christ will destroy the nations, but where did I get that from?  Just looking for proof and trying to find why I believed that.  Where did I get it from?  What scripture?

The reward is life back from the dead.  To be risen like Christ was and be with him.