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2 hours ago, enoob57 said:

Revelation 12:10 (KJV)

[10] And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.

notice who the accuser is....

Here is a little wisdom that we won't hear preached in the churches today.........overcoming the accuser happens when we will be able to say with Jesus that the devil hath nothing in me.  Meanwhile Jesus said we should AGREE with the adversary along the way, lest he hand us over to the Judge.  That means to judge ourselves so that we won't be judged with the world.  How I love His word, our only wise God, He never ceases to amaze!  And on top of that we sure are to judge and discern any within the church who claim the name of Jesus......ESPECIALLY teachers/preachers since they get judged more strictly.

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7 hours ago, Justin Adams said:

I see this as a definite warning to stay away from the Korporate Kool-aid.

As individuals we are being isolated from ecumenical extremism. But even watching the wrong things can be a main-line into the conscious and unconscious thoughts of these all encompassing movements.

The thinking, studying, praying, individual Christians will have to tend their lamps carefully and make sure that their vigilance is not compromised by what seems to be on the horizon.
A kind of mass heresy of feel-good religious union.

If 'everyone is doing it', take a second look!

 

yes i also believe its important what we fill our heads with and not to expose ourselves to lots of wrong things a friend of mine illustrated this perfectly and nearly creeped me out.

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If 'everyone is doing it', take a second look!

ah far from the maddening crowd meets the road less travelled eek

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54 minutes ago, existential mabel said:

yes i also believe its important what we fill our heads with and not to expose ourselves to lots of wrong things a friend of mine illustrated this perfectly and nearly creeped me out.

ah far from the maddening crowd meets the road less travelled eek

Mabel,this man gives me the creeps when I see his eyes :( 

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9 hours ago, Justin Adams said:

I see this as a definite warning to stay away from the Korporate Kool-aid.

As individuals we are being isolated from ecumenical extremism. But even watching the wrong things can be a main-line into the conscious and unconscious thoughts of these all encompassing movements.

The thinking, studying, praying, individual Christians will have to tend their lamps carefully and make sure that their vigilance is not compromised by what seems to be on the horizon.
A kind of mass heresy of feel-good religious union.

If 'everyone is doing it', take a second look!

 

I listened to a Christian radio station on my way back from Church today. On Sun they feature a different church service, today must have been Episcopalian/Anglican or RC, the priest or minister when he prayed - prayed for the unification of the Church and I had to shutter when I heard that & wondered what kind of propaganda they must be getting coming down from the head office of their denomination.

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Of course Kenneth and Gloria Copeland embrace a false doctrine and are little anti-Christs. They have called themselves little gods for all of their ministy's time. Their ministry  is of and for their god the evil one. They were educated and trained under Oral Roberts.

That said, I share that it is not especially good to pan  the church of my Lord Jesus  as being ecumenical ( all embracing ) and evil. There is the evil that is ecumenical,  there is the evil that is the popedom; but the universal church  is that church which  Jesus has brought to us.

John recites as inspired of God an account of Jesus which includes in English transliteration the following of Jesus' universal ( catholic) church:

...“I do not ask for these only, but also for those who will believe in me through their word,  that they may all be one, just as you, Father, are in me, and I in you, that they also may be in us, so that the world may believe that you have sent me. The glory that you have given me I have given to them, that they may be one even as we are one,  I in them and you in me, that they may become perfectly one, so that the world may know that you sent me and loved them even as you loved me.  Father, I desire that they also, whom you have given me, may be with me where I am, to see my glory that you have given me because you loved me before the foundation of the world."...

Jesus' church is catholic (universal). The popedom  is not.

To go about condemning  "the church" or the churches  is an error for the church is what Jesus established. It serves only an evil purpose to go about declaring all churches to be irrelevant, to do so is to declare that which Jesus established as irrelevant.

From Matthew Henry:

-Matthew Henry's Method for Prayer-

....."Pray for the Universal Church

For the universal church, wherever dispersed, and for all the interests of it.

Our heart’s desire and prayer to God for the gospel-Israel is that it may be saved. Romans 10:1(ESV)

Do good to Zion in your good pleasure; build up the walls of Jerusalem. Psalm 51:18(ESV) Peace be within her walls and security within her towers. For our brothers and companions’ sake, we will now say, “Peace be within her.” Psalm 122:7-8(ESV)

O that we may see the prosperity of the gospel-Jerusalem all the days of our life and peace upon Israel. Psalm 128:5-6(ESV) And that, thus, we may have reason to answer the messengers of the nations, saying, “The LORD has founded Zion, and in her the afflicted of his people find refuge.” Isaiah 14:32(ESV)

Save your people, O Lord, and bless your heritage; be their shepherd and carry them forever. Psalm 28:9(ESV) Give strength to your people, and bless your people with peace; Psalm 29:11(ESV) cover them with favor as with a shield. Psalm 5:12(ESV)

Grace be with all who love the Lord Jesus Christ with love incorruptible; Ephesians 6:24(ESV) for you know those who are yours, and give to all who name the name of Christ to depart from iniquity. 2 Timothy 2:19(ESV)

We pray for all who believe in Christ, that they may all be one; John 17:20-21(ESV) and since there is one body and one Spirit and one hope that belongs to our call, one Lord, one faith, one baptism, and one God and Father of all, Ephesians 4:4-6(ESV) give to all Christians to be of one heart and one way. Jeremiah 32:39(ESV)

Let the word of the Lord in all places speed ahead, and let it be honored. 2 Thessalonians 3:1(ESV)"

 

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On ‎10‎/‎29‎/‎2017 at 7:01 AM, Davida said:

Not me, it seemed he was waiting to get the correct words from his head deceiver.  Copeland was choosing the exact words he wanted to say. He knows he is making war against the Protestant movement.

speaking from a person who used to tape things of this nature for them when I was in the TV business years ago, I can pretty much assure you that this was all theatrics.

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On 29/10/2017 at 10:57 PM, Davida said:

Copeland a big wolf among a pack of wolves. I can't stand to listen to his lying theatrics--he speaks the opposite of Truth. The ecumenical movement is from the pit. This is why it is so important for Christ following ,Bible believing Christians to stay in the word and pray for more discernment every day and stand against the siren call lead by the Roman Catholic Church- who is at some point is going to be calling the fundamentalist Bible believing evangelicals who obstruct them- they are enemies of God  mark my words.

So glad others recognize this. However, beware. The reformation, which despite rumors to the contrary, is not over. and those who cling to the beliefs of the whore are not yet come out from her. She will be destroyed, and to avoid being destroyed with her the angel of Rev. 18 calls everyone to come fully out. The reformation wasn't just about protesting the errors of Rome, it was to repudiate everything Rome holds dear and practice and preach a gospel that contradicts and opposes everything the whore has in her cup.

So do a little research. What doctrines does Rome view as being the foundation of all her dogmas and which Protestantism still cleave to?

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10 minutes ago, brakelite said:

So do a little research. What doctrines does Rome view as being the foundation of all her dogmas and which Protestantism still cleave to?

Oh brother. Dare we even? Before we get bashed and chased away. The reformation modified papist-paganism and 'lightly healed' its gospel. When a thing is 'reformed' it is molded and rebuilt. But not necessarily its chassis.

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4 minutes ago, Justin Adams said:

Oh brother. Dare we even? Before we get bashed and chased away. The reformation modified papist-paganism and 'lightly healed' its gospel. When a thing is 'reformed' it is molded and rebuilt. But not necessarily its chassis.

Truth is always more convincing when people discover it for themselves. Can the false abominations of Antichrist be built on solid foundations?

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http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/obit/2009/12/oral_roberts_and_his_green_buick.html

 

More secular commentators will remember him as a thief for Jesus, inventor of the "blatant money hustling so necessary to stay on prime time," as Martin Gardner wrote about him in a New York Review of Books essay in 1987. It was Oral Roberts who perfected the screaming and begging for money onstage and paved the way for the televangelist hustlers of the '90s: Jimmy and Tammy Faye Bakker, Jimmy Swaggart, Benny Hinn.

 

Roberts was one of the founders of the prosperity gospel, the notion that God blesses faithful believers with riches and good health. This theology has lately been proliferating in American megachurches,

 

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      Sahih Bukhari (11:626) - "The Prophet said, 'No prayer is harder for the hypocrites than the Fajr and the 'Isha' prayers and if they knew the reward for these prayers at their respective times, they would certainly present themselves (in the mosques) even if they had to crawl.' The Prophet added, 'Certainly I decided to order the Mu'adh-dhin (call-maker) to pronounce Iqama and order a man to lead the prayer and then take a fire flame to burn all those who had not left their houses so far for the prayer along with their houses'."
      Abu Dawud (4346) - "Was not there a wise man among you who would stand up to him when he saw that I had withheld my hand from accepting his allegiance, and kill him?" Muhammad is chastising his companions for allowing an apostate to "repent" under duress. (The person in question was Muhammad's former scribe, who left him after doubting the authenticity of divine "revelations" - upon finding out that grammatical changes could be made. He was brought back to Muhammad after having been captured in Medina).
      al-Muwatta of Imam Malik (36.18.15) - "The Messenger of Allah said, "If someone changes his religion - then strike off his head."
      Reliance of the Traveller (Islamic Law) o8.1 - "When a person who has reached puberty and is sane voluntarily apostatizes from Islam, he deserves to be killed." (o8.4 affirms that there is no penalty for killing an apostate).
      Writer Salman Rushdie was accused of blasphemy and became the subject of a fatwā issued by Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini, the Supreme Leader of Iran, in February 1989.
      "Saudi Arabia court gives death penalty to man who renounced his Muslim faith" - http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/saudiarabia/11431509/Saudi-Arabia-court-gives-death-penalty-to-man-who-renounced-his-Muslim-faith.html
      A non-muslim asks a question about the punishment for apostasy. The answer was:  "If a Muslim apostatizes and meets the conditions of apostasy – i.e., he is of sound mind, an adult and does that of his own free will – then his blood may be shed with impunity. He is to be executed by the Muslim ruler or by his deputy – such as the qaadi or judge, and he is not to not be washed (after death, in preparation for burial), the funeral prayer is not to be offered for him and he is not to be buried with the Muslims.  " - https://islamqa.info/en/20327


    • Guest Robert
      By Guest Robert
      In reading this study, I found some very disturbing trends amongst "evangelicals" as listed by this study:
      - 46 percent believe that God accepts the worship of all religions, including Christianity, Judaism and Islam.
      - 52 percent agree that sex outside of marriage is wrong
      - only 27 percent agree that the Bible alone is the written word of God.
      There's more listed in the study, found here:
       
      http://thestateoftheology.com/
    • By John Robinson
      Looks like apostasy to me. What a nut.
       
      http://www.charismanews.com/opinion/watchman-on-the-wall/48891-presbyterian-minister-doesn-t-believe-in-god-yet-defends-his-christianity
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