Oneness or Trinity?

[other one]

8 hours ago, Jesus_Freak_2003 said:

That's it no backup or anything?

 

That's it.  If you were open to know why it might be worth the effort of typing it all out, but looking at the thread it appears that isn't your agenda.

So I simply answered your question.

 

 

 

[Justin Adams]

I can understand what you are saying and though I would not readily call you an 'Heretic' as some would, I can see that to an Israeli, for instance, a 3-person union as Yahweh can be quite off-putting. One God is their dogma.

Three is a rather unique idea and is seen in many aspects of creation. You can have a 'three-that is ONE Whole' in many forms.

That we are too dumb to get it is not the point. They (all three persons) are approachable by believers; individually or as One God.

That some groups have differing concepts based on scripture is not surprising really considering the mix of human backgrounds that have these beliefs.

If a person was to continue in studying scripture, then they should understand at some point about the Trinity.

Each must find out the Truth of our God for themselves. So I would tend to forego human doctrine for the time being and focus on what God actually says about Himself in His-Story.

[frienduff thaylorde]

6 hours ago, Justin Adams said:

I can understand what you are saying and though I would not readily call you an 'Heretic' as some would, I can see that to an Israeli, for instance, a 3-person union as Yahweh can be quite off-putting. One God is their dogma.

Three is a rather unique idea and is seen in many aspects of creation. You can have a 'three-that is ONE Whole' in many forms.

That we are too dumb to get it is not the point. They (all three persons) are approachable by believers; individually or as One God.

That some groups have differing concepts based on scripture is not surprising really considering the mix of human backgrounds that have these beliefs.

If a person was to continue in studying scripture, then they should understand at some point about the Trinity.

Each must find out the Truth of our God for themselves. So I would tend to forego human doctrine for the time being and focus on what God actually says about Himself in His-Story.

Justin,   Have you ever noticed that the early church was far too busy walking LIKE JESUS and preaching the gospel , to ever write about such concepts.

Its true by grace I came to understanding it enough to ONLY strengthen my faith .    The simple saying OF JOHN is enough and VERY TRUE.  the three are ONE.

Men have warred over this , and all the while WHO is preaching and teaching the LIFE saving GOSPLE that so many need to hear.

Jesus never said to the many , depart from me , cause you didn't KNOW IT ALL.    HE SAID depart from me ye who worked inquity .

While its true I seek spiritual wisdom, knowledge , understanding and hunger for it , for charity to be fed on my heart all the time, 

THE WHY is so dire .    IT SURE AINT to look wise, it sure aint to be recognized.   NOPE let GOD get all that.   ITS TO JUST walk pleasing unto HIM>

I  got a feeling ya know this.    Bro , the church is in shambles , the world in the pits, and the all inclusive grows, we have a major judgment at the door.

WE need to be getting the people focused on Christ and getting ready to endure an all out betrayal and great tribulation.     Cause its on the way

and the delusion HAS ABOUNDED NOW.    We running out of time.    I know most mock at this.  BUT I am telling us BY THE SPIRIT We are running out of time

and MANY will go under the delusion and many will soon betray us , with ONE MIND ONE HEART unto the beast.   

[Heleadethme]

On 11/2/2017 at 11:30 PM, Jesus_Freak_2003 said:

I believe in One single God not father son and holy spirit... Does anyone agree?

How I was given to understand it, is that God is one.......one Person, one God......but HE came in the flesh in His Son, and HE comes by His Spirit as well.  I am not sufficient for these things, but just try to believe His word with His help.  If we try too hard to grasp it logically, the truth will evade us.  

[OneLight]

Some do not like how I explain this, but it is the simplest explanation I can think of.

God is not the name of the Father, Son or Holy Spirit.  "God" is like a title.  God is plural, not singular.  In the OT, God is " 'elohiym ", which is plural.

Here is a very simple explanation of the word 'elohiym found at Blue letter bible lexicon

(You would do yourself a favor if you dug deeper into the word.)

1. (plural)

   1. rulers, judges

   2. divine ones

   3. angels

   4. gods

2. (plural intensive - singular meaning)

   1. god, goddess

   2. godlike one

   3. works or special possessions of God

   4. the (true) God

   5. God

[simplejeff]

"Elohim" ,   "Echad",   find same in Old Testment and New Testament

referring to men.

(particular,  'peculiar' men)

[OneLight]

18 minutes ago, simplejeff said:

"Elohim" ,   "Echad",   find same in Old Testment and New Testament

referring to men.

(particular,  'peculiar' men)

Can you provide where you found this explanation?

[simplejeff]

17 minutes ago, OneLight said:

Can you provide where you found this explanation?

What 'explanation' ?

[OneLight]

1 hour ago, simplejeff said:

What 'explanation' ?

You said:

2 hours ago, simplejeff said:

"Elohim" ,   "Echad",   find same in Old Testment and New Testament

referring to men.

(particular,  'peculiar' men)

I provided proof that  'elohiym  refers to God and you say it refers to men.  I would like to see the proof of your claim.

[Jesus_Freak_2003]

On 11/3/2017 at 11:25 PM, missmuffet said:

These religions do not believe in the Holy Trinity. Are you one of these?

Jehovah Witnesses, The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter day Saints (Mormon), and Christian Scientists

I'm Pentecostal