YASHUA/JESUS IS NOT YHWH/YAHWEH!

[Quasar93]

5 hours ago, shiloh357 said:

Well first of all, there is no such person as "Yashusa"  and if you were a seminary graduate as you claim to be you would have enough Hebrew under your belt to know that.    "Yahshuah"  is a made up name.   I speak and read Hebrew and there is no such Hebrew word as "Yahshuah."   The only people who use that name are the "Yahweh" cults that are a spin off from the Jehovah's Witness cult.

The Yahweh cults deny the Trinity and the deity of Jesus, which is what you are doing here.   You pepper us with verses that you have assigned a certain value to, but provide no exegesis.  That demonstrates the falseness of your claims to have studied in Bible colleges.  You are showing us your true colors now.

Anyone who denies that Jesus is God is not a true believer.
 

Our word?   Isn't the Bible "your word" too?

 

You are right in that Yahshusa, nor is there anything in my post of Scripture you quoted, that refute you, even mention such a name for Jesus.  Nor does the issue pertaining to the two personages of the Father/Yahwey and the Son/Yahshua, have anything whatever to do with the Trinity.  Review the following from another source:

 

Source: http://www.yhvh.name/?w=1264

 

Quasar93

 

[Steve_S]

Just a reminder to everyone to keep it civil and to not get personal.

[Justin Adams]

Trinitarian.

Yeshua is made to sound like Jesus (Ieous) and no J formerly existed so it was pronounced Y. See the KJV 1611. If you want to USE Yeshua you pronounce it YaHshua - where YaH is the father and YaHshua is the son and Ruach Ha Kodesh is Holy Spirit. Trinitrian thru and thru.
Not a cult, just many that believe that the false rendition of 'Jesus' is incorrectly translated and transliterated. Many of the Greek renditions were not correct, neither were the Latin (hey Zeus). The Aramaic and Hebrew were slightly doctored in the masoraic texts because scribes and pharisees wanted to confuse any messianic inferences. Even Strong's later editions add to this confusion.

Hall el u yah = Praise El YaH or  Elohim the father YaH. HallELuYa.

Know WHOM you worship. Yahusha

Here are the complete Hebrew names

Yahusha Messiah = Yahusha HaMashyach

The Holy Spirit = Ruach Ha-Kodesh (ROO-akh hak-KOH-desh)

The Spirit of God = Ruach Elohim

Here are the complete Hebrew names

Yahusha Messiah = Yahusha HaMashyach

The Holy Spirit = Ruach Ha-Kodesh (ROO-akh hak-KOH-desh)

The Spirit of God = Ruach Elohim

[Guest shiloh357]

 

23 minutes ago, Justin Adams said:

Trinitarian.Yeshua is made to sound like Jesus (Ieous)

No, His Name was Yeshua and Messianic Jewish leaders (the real ones) only ever refer to Him as Yeshua.   Yeshua is a contraction of Yehoshua. 

There is no Yahshuah in Hebrew.   Only those who do not know Hebrew try to foist the name of Yahshuah on others.   No Hebrew scholar knows anything about such a name as "Yashuah."

Yeshua is also the word in Hebrew for "salvation."   Jesus real Hebrew name was "Salvation."   Yeshua is a biblical Hebrew word that shows up many times in the OT.

"Yashuah" is a word made up by Gentiles in pseudo messianic cults who lead people astray.

[Justin Adams]

Yeshua you pronounce it YaHshua - so many prefer this name since it is way different to Ieous or Yeous later Jesus. A made up name.

1st temple period it was written YaHshua. It then got shortened to Yeshua. However the pronunciation is YAH -SHUA = Elohim (father)  Saves.

[Dennis1209]

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[HAZARD]

Who is Jesus? 

Jesus Christ is a member of the Godhead, He is called the Word in John 1:1. He was with the Father throughout eternity past. He is the creator and sustainer of all things.

 

John 1:1  In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
   

V. 2, The same was in the beginning with God.
   

V. 3, All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

 

He became flesh and dwelt among us, He became a man so He could die for our sins. As God he could not die, but as a man He was able to die for us.

 

John 1: 14, And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

 

Jesus Christ is a member of the Godhead, He is called the Word in   John 1:1. He was with the Father throughout eternity past. He is the creator and sustainer of all things.

 

John 1:1  In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
   

V. 2, The same was in the beginning with God.
   

V. 3, All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

 

He became flesh and dwelt among us, He became a man so He could die for our sins. As God he could not die, but as a man He was able to die for us.

 

John 1: 14, And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

 

After lying in the tomb for three full days and three full nights as He predicted, the Father raised Him from the dead.

 

Matt. 12:40, For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.

 

 

He now sits at the Fathers right hand in Heaven.

 

Act 13:30, But God raised him from the dead:

 

Mark 16:19, So then after the Lord had spoken unto them, he was received up into heaven, and sat on the right hand of God.

 

The word Trinity is not mentioned in Scripture one time in the entire Bible. The Word Godhead is mentioned three times;

 

 Acts 17:29, Forasmuch then as we are the offspring of God, we ought not to think that the Godhead is like unto gold, or silver, or stone, graven by art and man's device.

 Romans 1:20, For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so7 that they are without excuse:
   

Colossians 2:9, For in him dwelleth all the fullness of the Godhead bodily.

 

1. The Father,

 

2. The Word who became flesh, John 1:1; 1:14,

 

3. And the Holy Spirit are three separate beings who are "ONE" in unity and not inside each other in one body as many are taught and believe.

 

.1 John  5:7, For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. (One in unity in all things, not inside each other in one body).

he Father raised Him from the dead and He now sits at the Fathers right hand in Heaven.

 

Act 13:30, But God raised him from the dead:

 

Mark 16:19, So then after the Lord had spoken unto them, he was received up into heaven, and sat on the right hand of God.

 

The word Trinity is not mentioned in Scripture one time in the entire Bible. The Word Godhead is mentioned three times;

 

 Acts 17:29, Forasmuch then as we are the offspring of God, we ought not to think that the Godhead is like unto gold, or silver, or stone, graven by art and man's device.

 Romans 1:20, For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:
   

 

[Guest shiloh357]

20 hours ago, Justin Adams said:

Yeshua you pronounce it YaHshua -

No, you don't unless your part of one of those Gentile "Yahweh" sacred name cults.  No one outside of those cults uses the term "Yahshuah."   It is a modern fraud that has been foisted upon some who are easily deceived and don't check out the facts.

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so many prefer this name since it is way different to Ieous or Yeous later Jesus. A made up name.

It doesn't matter what anyone prefers.   What matters is what is true and "Yahshua" is a made up name that has never existed in the Hebrew language.

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1st temple period it was written YaHshua. It then got shortened to Yeshua. However the pronunciation is YAH -SHUA = Elohim (father)  Saves.

Wrong.   You need to study Hebrew for a few years.

Yeshua is shortened from Yehoshua, not Yahshua.

Yehoshua means "God is my salvation."   "Yeshua" simply means "salvation" and if you extrapolate backwards from the Greek Iesous is Yeshua or "salvation" and that can be verified from the Greek.

No Greek/Hebrew scholar and no one in the mainstream Messianic Jewish movement accepts the fake name of "Yahshuah" as having any legitimacy.   You will not find "Yashuah" used in any ancient Hebrew texts either in the Bible, or in the Mishnah, Midrash or any other ancient Rabbinic writings.   That is because it is not a word in the Hebrew language and it is the same language as it was 3,000 years ago.

But that will not stop the sacred name cults from promoting the lie.

[Justin Adams]

3 minutes ago, shiloh357 said:

But that will not stop the sacred name cults from promoting the lie.

Greek is a mish-mash of Early Aramaic/Hebrew transliterations without vowels. So they added some. Greek is NOT the original script.

[Guest shiloh357]

3 minutes ago, Justin Adams said:

Greek is a mish-mash of Early Aramaic/Hebrew transliterations without vowels. So they added some. Greek is NOT the original script.

Wrong.  You don't know the first thing about Greek or the Greek translations.  That is just another example of junk information.    The fact is that  "Yahshuah" is not and never was a Hebrew word and it is not found in ANY ancient Hebrew literature in including the Hebrew OT.  

I don't know who you get your information from, but your sources are giving  you fraudulent information.