Do you know Jesus?

[4LdKHVCzRDj2]

Do you really know Jesus?! Are you really His?!

If you are really His then why do you willfully choose to disobey Him and are left without rebuke or chastening?!

"But if you are without chastening, of which all have become partakers, then you are illegitimate and not sons." - Hebrews 12:8

 

Times are so hard, that we have to preach the Gospel inside the church nowadays.

 

I really cannot believe that people who claims to know Him, to love Him, will be so stubborn and deny to practice the things He said.

Things that are really, really important for our lives and our walk with Him.

Then the Lord showed me that many, many people simply: Do not know Him.

 

Jesus said:
    "Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit" - Matthew 28:19

And they say:
    "I will not do this... Water does not save"

 

Jesus said:
    "And if your eye causes you to sin, pluck it out. It is better for you to enter the kingdom of God with one eye,
        rather than having two eyes, to be cast into hell fire" - Mark 9:47

And they say:
    "I do not need to repent. He paid for my sins, I will just have pleasure in my iniquities"

 

Jesus said:
    "But I say to you, love your enemies, bless those who curse you, do good to those who hate you,
        and pray for those who spitefully use you and persecute you" - Matthew 5:44

And they say:
    "I do not care I will just go there and give him a lesson.
        Jesus was perfect on my behalf, I do not need to repent"

 

Jesus said:
    "Blessed are the peacemakers,
            For they shall be called sons of God." - Matthew 5:9

And they say:
    "I do not care, it is by grace I have been saved.
        I will continue to sow war and confusion whenever I go because I am like this."

 

Jesus said:
    "Blessed are the poor in spirit,
            For theirs is the kingdom of heaven." - Matthew 5:3

And they say:
    "I do not care... I have His blood and trust in His sacrifice. No need to repent.
        I will go there and say proudly: Here is your blood. Let me enter now!"

 

And Jesus said:
    "Assuredly, I say to you, unless you are converted and become as little children, you will by no means enter the kingdom of heaven." - Matthew 18:3

    "Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God." - John 3:5

 

Jesus said so many good things, He told us so many good things, and I am sure that all who indeed believe in Him will receive and practice what He said from the heart.

And they will, truly, repent of their wicked ways and be a slave of righteousness and not of iniquity. As it is written:

"And those who are Christ's have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires." - Galatians 5:24

 

And there are people who say:
    "I love Jesus, but if anyone tries to kill me because of Him... Aaaah, I will pick my rifle and tear him in pieces."

If you do that... You certainly do not know the Jesus I am following, my friend. Sorry!

"Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves.
You will know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes from thornbushes or figs from thistles?" - Matthew 7:15-16

 

If anyone has to die because of Jesus, then let it be... For this we were called.

"For to you it has been granted on behalf of Christ, not only to believe in Him, but also to suffer for His sake" - Philippians 1:29

"Beloved, do not avenge yourselves, but rather give place to wrath; for it is written, “Vengeance is Mine, I will repay,” says the Lord." - Romans 12:19

 

Are you calling me to obey Him?! Yes, I am calling you to obey Him... if indeed you believe in Him.

If Jesus called us to do what is good and right, then we who truly believe in Him must do that... And it is a delight, a pleasure, because we do it for love.

"If you know that He is righteous, you know that everyone who practices righteousness is born of Him." - 1 John 2:29

 

Now if you say: "I do not care..."

Just a reminder that Satan also is stubborn just as you are... And if you do not receive the Lord Jesus in your heart, and repent, indeed, from your wicked ways... You will perish.

"For rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft,
And stubbornness is as iniquity and idolatry.
Because you have rejected the word of the Lord,
He also has rejected you from being king." - 1 Samuel 15:23

Surrender to the Lord Jesus Christ, before it is too late.

 

To those who use the grace of God as an excuse to practice unrighteousness... Sorry, I cannot believe you actually know Him and received Him.

This offends anyone who is in the faith, because we were not called to willfully sin and be stubborn, we were called to repent and obey.

And if we fail to obey?! We repent and seek to obey next time. And I see many, many people do not care... I cannot believe they love the Lord, I cannot believe they are born again.

"If someone says, "I love God," and hates his brother, he is a liar;
for he who does not love his brother whom he has seen, how can he love God whom he has not seen?" - 1 John 4:20

 

As the Lord Jesus said: "Many will say to me in that day..."

Many people who do not love the Lord and actually never knew Him... They are blind in their walk, they forgot their cross.

"then you will begin to say, ‘We ate and drank in Your presence, and You taught in our streets.’
But He will say, ‘I tell you I do not know you, where you are from. Depart from Me, all you workers of iniquity.’" - Luke 13:26-27

"It is a joy for the just to do justice,
But destruction will come to the workers of iniquity." - Proverbs 21:15

I strongly suggest: Repent, go back and take your cross and carry it to the end.

"And he who does not take his cross and follow after Me is not worthy of Me." - Matthew 10:38

"Whoever transgresses and does not abide in the doctrine of Christ does not have God.
He who abides in the doctrine of Christ has both the Father and the Son." - 2 John 1:9

 

Doing what the Lord Jesus told us should not be a big burden for you... Unless, obviously:

    "You do not love Him."
    "You do not know Him."
    "You love darkness rather than light."

Repent, indeed, and turn to the light... Embrace and receive the Holy Spirit in the name of the Lord Jesus.

"If you then, being evil, know how to give good gifts to your children,
how much more will your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to those who ask Him!" - Luke 11:13

 

Then I strongly suggest you receive Him in your heart immediately.

"But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, to those who believe in His name:
who were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God." - John 1:12-13

 

And I really want that you do that, because all who believe in Him will love and receive Him.

"Jesus answered and said to him, “If anyone loves Me, he will keep My word;
and My Father will love him, and We will come to him and make Our home with him." - John 14:23

 

Do not be deceived, you have been warned. God is not mocked, and He knows those who are His.

"No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him; and I will raise him up at the last day." - John 6:44

 

But are you saying that I should simply read and do?!

No, it should be done by faith... A desire that comes from the heart: you feel to repent, you feel to forgive, you feel to lend, you feel to love, you feel to do good things.

And if your heart desires to do evil: You rebuke in His name and humble yourself before the Lord. Seek repentance, desire a clean heart.

And that all who believe in Him will do, from the heart.

"For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision nor uncircumcision avails anything, but faith working through love." - Galatians 5:6

 

Many people mistakenly believe that those who follow Jesus in spirit and truth, and consequently do the things He said us to: Pray, seek, ask, watch, forgive, lend, etc... are working to be saved.

Who would be against those things?! Satan obviously, because he is the one who works against Jesus and his believers.

"He who is not with Me is against Me, and he who does not gather with Me scatters abroad." - Matthew 12:30

Even if we do all the things He said to us, where are we at the end of day?! We do because we love Him, because we are His... That is why we desire a clean heart, to flee from evil and the flesh, and do good, to repent from our wicked ways, and to walk in truth, in His light, and all in His name. To Him be the glory forever.

"So likewise you, when you have done all those things which you are commanded, say,
‘We are unprofitable servants. We have done what was our duty to do.’”" - Luke 17:10

And all in His name, under His grace... Because we know that without Him we can do nothing.

"Abide in Me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself,
unless it abides in the vine, neither can you, unless you abide in Me." - John 15:4

 

Glory to God! Amen.

[simplejeff]

Too much at once,  try shortening a bit (well,  a lot) to make it more readable and possible to discuss/ support/ explain as needed.    GOOD SCRIPTURE THOUGH !   TRUTH!   (not welcome in most places, as you know) .....

[IvyLynn]

2 minutes ago, simplejeff said:

Too much at once,  try shortening a bit (well,  a lot) to make it more readable and possible to discuss/ support/ explain as needed.    GOOD SCRIPTURE THOUGH !   TRUTH!   (not welcome in most places, as you know) .....

Agreed.

 

[frienduff thaylorde]

And on that note let us continue in the goodness of GOD other wise you will be cut off.

Yes, be not highminded but fear .  

For we are made partakers of Him IF we continue in Him unto the end.

Heres  a strong reminder .

We know that we don't compare ourselves to others ,  but heed this

IF even a man like paul who had preached the gospel to far more than we have,   said I bring my body under subjection

lest even after preaching the gospel to many I myself be CAAAAAASSSSST  OUT .       Yeah its real  .   its real .

I dare anyone to say we don't have to continue in HIM to the end.    THEY CANT SAY THAT .   why,   CAUSE ITS REAL.

And my little children as JOHN once said.....................IF we say he abides in us...............WE WALKEY LIKE HE DID .    and JESUS didn't walk n sin.

WHOLE NEW HEART peoples , so lets grave up and look out for one another and warn a soul if you see error IN AN INSTANT .  

[angels4u]

9 hours ago, simplejeff said:

Too much at once,  try shortening a bit (well,  a lot) to make it more readable and possible to discuss/ support/ explain as needed.    GOOD SCRIPTURE THOUGH !   TRUTH!   (not welcome in most places, as you know) .....

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(not welcome in most places, as you know) ....

 

[missmuffet]

10 hours ago, 4LdKHVCzRDj2 said:

Do you really know Jesus?! Are you really His?!

If you are really His then why do you willfully choose to disobey Him and are left without rebuke or chastening?!

"But if you are without chastening, of which all have become partakers, then you are illegitimate and not sons." - Hebrews 12:8

 

Times are so hard, that we have to preach the Gospel inside the church nowadays.

 

I really cannot believe that people who claims to know Him, to love Him, will be so stubborn and deny to practice the things He said.

Things that are really, really important for our lives and our walk with Him.

Then the Lord showed me that many, many people simply: Do not know Him.

 

Jesus said:
    "Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit" - Matthew 28:19

And they say:
    "I will not do this... Water does not save"

 

Jesus said:
    "And if your eye causes you to sin, pluck it out. It is better for you to enter the kingdom of God with one eye,
        rather than having two eyes, to be cast into hell fire" - Mark 9:47

And they say:
    "I do not need to repent. He paid for my sins, I will just have pleasure in my iniquities"

 

Jesus said:
    "But I say to you, love your enemies, bless those who curse you, do good to those who hate you,
        and pray for those who spitefully use you and persecute you" - Matthew 5:44

And they say:
    "I do not care I will just go there and give him a lesson.
        Jesus was perfect on my behalf, I do not need to repent"

 

Jesus said:
    "Blessed are the peacemakers,
            For they shall be called sons of God." - Matthew 5:9

And they say:
    "I do not care, it is by grace I have been saved.
        I will continue to sow war and confusion whenever I go because I am like this."

 

Jesus said:
    "Blessed are the poor in spirit,
            For theirs is the kingdom of heaven." - Matthew 5:3

And they say:
    "I do not care... I have His blood and trust in His sacrifice. No need to repent.
        I will go there and say proudly: Here is your blood. Let me enter now!"

 

And Jesus said:
    "Assuredly, I say to you, unless you are converted and become as little children, you will by no means enter the kingdom of heaven." - Matthew 18:3

    "Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God." - John 3:5

 

Jesus said so many good things, He told us so many good things, and I am sure that all who indeed believe in Him will receive and practice what He said from the heart.

And they will, truly, repent of their wicked ways and be a slave of righteousness and not of iniquity. As it is written:

"And those who are Christ's have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires." - Galatians 5:24

 

And there are people who say:
    "I love Jesus, but if anyone tries to kill me because of Him... Aaaah, I will pick my rifle and tear him in pieces."

If you do that... You certainly do not know the Jesus I am following, my friend. Sorry!

"Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves.
You will know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes from thornbushes or figs from thistles?" - Matthew 7:15-16

 

If anyone has to die because of Jesus, then let it be... For this we were called.

"For to you it has been granted on behalf of Christ, not only to believe in Him, but also to suffer for His sake" - Philippians 1:29

"Beloved, do not avenge yourselves, but rather give place to wrath; for it is written, “Vengeance is Mine, I will repay,” says the Lord." - Romans 12:19

 

Are you calling me to obey Him?! Yes, I am calling you to obey Him... if indeed you believe in Him.

If Jesus called us to do what is good and right, then we who truly believe in Him must do that... And it is a delight, a pleasure, because we do it for love.

"If you know that He is righteous, you know that everyone who practices righteousness is born of Him." - 1 John 2:29

 

Now if you say: "I do not care..."

Just a reminder that Satan also is stubborn just as you are... And if you do not receive the Lord Jesus in your heart, and repent, indeed, from your wicked ways... You will perish.

"For rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft,
And stubbornness is as iniquity and idolatry.
Because you have rejected the word of the Lord,
He also has rejected you from being king." - 1 Samuel 15:23

Surrender to the Lord Jesus Christ, before it is too late.

 

To those who use the grace of God as an excuse to practice unrighteousness... Sorry, I cannot believe you actually know Him and received Him.

This offends anyone who is in the faith, because we were not called to willfully sin and be stubborn, we were called to repent and obey.

And if we fail to obey?! We repent and seek to obey next time. And I see many, many people do not care... I cannot believe they love the Lord, I cannot believe they are born again.

"If someone says, "I love God," and hates his brother, he is a liar;
for he who does not love his brother whom he has seen, how can he love God whom he has not seen?" - 1 John 4:20

 

As the Lord Jesus said: "Many will say to me in that day..."

Many people who do not love the Lord and actually never knew Him... They are blind in their walk, they forgot their cross.

"then you will begin to say, ‘We ate and drank in Your presence, and You taught in our streets.’
But He will say, ‘I tell you I do not know you, where you are from. Depart from Me, all you workers of iniquity.’" - Luke 13:26-27

"It is a joy for the just to do justice,
But destruction will come to the workers of iniquity." - Proverbs 21:15

I strongly suggest: Repent, go back and take your cross and carry it to the end.

"And he who does not take his cross and follow after Me is not worthy of Me." - Matthew 10:38

"Whoever transgresses and does not abide in the doctrine of Christ does not have God.
He who abides in the doctrine of Christ has both the Father and the Son." - 2 John 1:9

 

Doing what the Lord Jesus told us should not be a big burden for you... Unless, obviously:

    "You do not love Him."
    "You do not know Him."
    "You love darkness rather than light."

Repent, indeed, and turn to the light... Embrace and receive the Holy Spirit in the name of the Lord Jesus.

"If you then, being evil, know how to give good gifts to your children,
how much more will your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to those who ask Him!" - Luke 11:13

 

Then I strongly suggest you receive Him in your heart immediately.

"But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, to those who believe in His name:
who were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God." - John 1:12-13

 

And I really want that you do that, because all who believe in Him will love and receive Him.

"Jesus answered and said to him, “If anyone loves Me, he will keep My word;
and My Father will love him, and We will come to him and make Our home with him." - John 14:23

 

Do not be deceived, you have been warned. God is not mocked, and He knows those who are His.

"No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him; and I will raise him up at the last day." - John 6:44

 

But are you saying that I should simply read and do?!

No, it should be done by faith... A desire that comes from the heart: you feel to repent, you feel to forgive, you feel to lend, you feel to love, you feel to do good things.

And if your heart desires to do evil: You rebuke in His name and humble yourself before the Lord. Seek repentance, desire a clean heart.

And that all who believe in Him will do, from the heart.

"For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision nor uncircumcision avails anything, but faith working through love." - Galatians 5:6

 

Many people mistakenly believe that those who follow Jesus in spirit and truth, and consequently do the things He said us to: Pray, seek, ask, watch, forgive, lend, etc... are working to be saved.

Who would be against those things?! Satan obviously, because he is the one who works against Jesus and his believers.

"He who is not with Me is against Me, and he who does not gather with Me scatters abroad." - Matthew 12:30

Even if we do all the things He said to us, where are we at the end of day?! We do because we love Him, because we are His... That is why we desire a clean heart, to flee from evil and the flesh, and do good, to repent from our wicked ways, and to walk in truth, in His light, and all in His name. To Him be the glory forever.

"So likewise you, when you have done all those things which you are commanded, say,
‘We are unprofitable servants. We have done what was our duty to do.’”" - Luke 17:10

And all in His name, under His grace... Because we know that without Him we can do nothing.

"Abide in Me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself,
unless it abides in the vine, neither can you, unless you abide in Me." - John 15:4

 

Glory to God! Amen.

Yes, I really do know Jesus Christ. And I also know God the Father and God the Holy Spirit. And I do know that I am His.

[OneLight]

10 hours ago, 4LdKHVCzRDj2 said:

Jesus said:

    "Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit" - Matthew 28:19

And they say:
    "I will not do this... Water does not save"

 

I'll stop here for now.  Water does not save, Christ saves.  Baptism has nothing to do with salvation, but obedience.

[frienduff thaylorde]

43 minutes ago, Yowm said:

 

Paul is referring to his ministry as an apostle of Christ, not his salvation. 

according to what modern mind preacher is this .

The thing I love about Christ and the doctrine .   I have peace no matter how I read it.   don't have to change a thing .

When Christ said if a man continues not in me or a branch don't bear fruit it is cast out .  does that still make it saved.    No.

What causes minds to fear so much.    I can read this and understand it and aint having to change it to have peace of mind.

I still would like anyone to tell me , HEY we don't have to continue in Christ and we will still be saved.   THEY CANT .

because of course we know  its true .   I mean if we stop obeying the holy spirit where do we end up.   exactly.  

I think it causes many fear to have to believe the holy ghost can be quenched.  put out , aka GONE.

But the thing is IF so be we have the Holy spirit its God in us working that which is well pleasing in HIS SIGHT .  just obey the spirit

and if one errs we simply are fast to correct them.    When paul went to reminding or others..............its statements like LET not these things be even once named among you

as becomes saints.   Today its HEY ,   GOD KNOWS WE CANT STOP ,   ease up legalist.   

IF the early church leaders were so serious and said things like ,    Let all who name the name of Christ depart from inquity

or even said proverbs saying how many do fall away,  or   if ye DO , DO DA DO DO these things you shall never fall

why on earth just heed that advice and not go after the ones who teach that way.    Yowm you loved , but I will just stick to the original.

Way too many men changed way too much through the centuries .    

[missmuffet]

1 hour ago, OneLight said:

I'll stop here for now.  Water does not save, Christ saves.  Baptism has nothing to do with salvation, but obedience.

That is true. Baptism does not have anything to do with salvation.

[frienduff thaylorde]

3 minutes ago, Yowm said:

Instead of shooting from the hip with prepackaged come-backs, and accusing me of 'modern preaching', how about looking at God's Word in context and tell me if Paul is speaking of his ministry or salvation. I say it is his ministry.

If we have sown unto you spiritual things, is it a great thing if we shall reap your carnal things? If others be partakers of this power over you, are not we rather? Nevertheless we have not used this power; but suffer all things, lest we should hinder the gospel of Christ. Do ye not know that they which minister about holy things live of the things of the temple? and they which wait at the altar are partakers with the altar? Even so hath the Lord ordained that they which preach the gospel should live of the gospel. But I have used none of these things: neither have I written these things, that it should be so done unto me: for it were better for me to die, than that any man should make my glorying void. For though I preach the gospel, I have nothing to glory of: for necessity is laid upon me; yea, woe is unto me, if I preach not the gospel! For if I do this thing willingly, I have a reward: but if against my will, a dispensation of the gospel is committed unto me. What is my reward then? Verily that, when I preach the gospel, I may make the gospel of Christ without charge, that I abuse not my power in the gospel. For though I be free from all men, yet have I made myself servant unto all, that I might gain the more. And unto the Jews I became as a Jew, that I might gain the Jews; to them that are under the law, as under the law, that I might gain them that are under the law; To them that are without law, as without law, (being not without law to God, but under the law to Christ,) that I might gain them that are without law. To the weak became I as weak, that I might gain the weak: I am made all things to all men, that I might by all means save some. And this I do for the gospel's sake, that I might be partaker thereof with you. Know ye not that they which run in a race run all, but one receiveth the prize? So run, that ye may obtain. And every man that striveth for the mastery is temperate in all things. Now they do it to obtain a corruptible crown; but we an incorruptible. I therefore so run, not as uncertainly; so fight I, not as one that beateth the air: But I keep under my body, and bring it into subjection: lest that by any means, when I have preached to others, I myself should be a castaway.
(1Co 9:11-27)
 

So let me ask you this question .   since I aint budging from what I said and you wont either.

What happens if WE DONT CONTINUE IN CHRIST .    you think we would still be saved .    

I would really like someone to try and aruge that one .   cause none can.     TELL me I can go live ungodly and still be saved without repenting again .   Go on

Cause you know it would not be true .     SO I say be faithful to the end now .    Obey the spirit , walk not after the flesh.

I am  pretty sure you aint going to tell me that if I DONT continue IN HIM I would still be saved at the end.    I just don't think you believe that at all.