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HOW LONG IS THE DAY OF THE LORD

For the Lord has a day of vengeance, a year of recompense for the cause of Zion. (Isa 34:8)

To proclaim the favorable year of the Lord and the day of vengeance of our God (Isa. 61:2)

For the day of vengeance was in My heart, And My year of redemption has come. (Isa. 63:4)

Knowing that the Wrath of God begins on a day but lasts a year helps other scriptures fall into place.  Noah was in the Ark exactly one year and ten days.

In the second month, on the seventeenth day of the month, on the same day all the fountains of the great deep burst open . . . In the second month, on the twenty-seventh day of the month, the earth was dry.  (Gen. 7:11, 8:14)

The coming of the Son of Man is to be like unto the days of Noah. Noah was above the earth 1 year and 10 days while the unrighteous were judged. The righteous will be above the earth 1 year and 10 days after the Rapture while the unrighteous will be judged during the Day of the Lord.

Now, look at this from Deut:

When a man takes a new wife, he shall not go out with the army nor be charged with any duty; he shall be free at home one year and shall give happiness to his wife whom he has taken. (Deut. 24:5)

This prescription about marriage will be honored by Jesus. He will marry the Bride of Christ in heaven after the Rapture. Only a year later will he return to wage war against the Antichrist armies.  In Revelation 19 we see this exact order of events. The Wedding Supper of the Lamb takes place in heaven  first, only then does Jesus mount a white horse and return to the earth to fight Armageddon.  There is a one year period between the wedding and the return. That year will be the Day of the Lord.

Many of you hold to the Day of the Lord being the entire 7 years of Tribulation.

Where are your scriptures to prove this? I have shown from scripture that the Day of the Lord is a year long, not 7 years.

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"Just to refresh your memory, chapter 7 will take place before the week even begins, while Jesus coming as shown in chapter 19 comes AFTER the 70th week has finished. 

Therefore His SECOND coming will be just before the 6th seal, and His THIRD coming in power and glory will be over 7 years later." 

This is the truth and do not let anyone tell you differently
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17 hours ago, Revelation Man said:

Malachi 4:5-6 tells is that Israel REPENT...BEFORE the Day of the Lord which starts at the 1260 Event or the Midway point of the 70th Week.

Hi Ron....

Malachi 4:5-6........"Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the Lord....and he shall turn the heart of the fathers to the children, and the heart of the children to their fathers, lest I come and smite the earth with a curse"

Can you explain to me where in these verses it says that Israel repents to God?

You said.........."the Day of the Lord which starts at the 1260 Event or the Midway point of the 70th Week."

Scripture shows that they Day of the Lord is a year long...... 

For the Lord has a day of vengeance, a year of recompense for the cause of Zion. (Isa 34:8)

To proclaim the favorable year of the Lord and the day of vengeance of our God (Isa. 61:2)

For the day of vengeance was in My heart, And My year of redemption has come. (Isa. 63:4)

Here you have the Day of the Lord as 3 1/2 years long. Can you provide any scripture which backs up your claim?

 

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"Scripture shows that they Day of the Lord is a year long"

 

Where does scripture tell this?

 

 

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4 hours ago, JoeCanada said:

Where are your scriptures to prove this? I have shown from scripture that the Day of the Lord is a year long, not 7 years.

It looks to me that the Day of the Lord spans from rapture all the way to the New Earth...

1Co 5:5 hand this man over to Satan for the destruction of the flesh, so that his spirit may be saved on the day of the Lord.

1 Thess 5:2 for you know very well that the day of the Lord will come like a thief in the night.

Isa 13:9 See, the day of the LORD is coming —a cruel day, with wrath and fierce anger— to make the land desolate and destroy the sinners within it.

2Th 2:2 not to become easily unsettled or alarmed by the teaching allegedly from us—whether by a prophecy or by word of mouth or by letter—asserting that the day of the Lord has already come.

2Pe 3:10 But the day of the Lord will come like a thief. The heavens will disappear with a roar; the elements will be destroyed by fire, and the earth and everything done in it will be laid bare.

- Heb

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4 hours ago, Heb 13:8 said:

It looks to me that the Day of the Lord spans from rapture all the way to the New Earth...

1Co 5:5 hand this man over to Satan for the destruction of the flesh, so that his spirit may be saved on the day of the Lord.

1 Thess 5:2 for you know very well that the day of the Lord will come like a thief in the night.

Isa 13:9 See, the day of the LORD is coming —a cruel day, with wrath and fierce anger— to make the land desolate and destroy the sinners within it.

2Th 2:2 not to become easily unsettled or alarmed by the teaching allegedly from us—whether by a prophecy or by word of mouth or by letter—asserting that the day of the Lord has already come.

2Pe 3:10 But the day of the Lord will come like a thief. The heavens will disappear with a roar; the elements will be destroyed by fire, and the earth and everything done in it will be laid bare.

- Heb

Hi Heb 13:8....

You are correct in saying that the Day of the Lord spans from the rapture......

At the 6th seal, there is a "great earthquake and the sun became black as sackcloth and the moon became as blood"....Rev 6:12

This is what Joel describes before the Day of the Lord....."the sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and terrible day of the Lord come"....Joel 2:31

"The kings of the earth, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men and every bondman and every free man hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains.......For the great day of His wrath IS come....".....Rev 6:17

Then Rev 7......the 144,000 are sealed....... THEN the  RESURRECTION and RAPTURE......THEN the DAY of the LORD....And we know this to be the Resurrection/Rapture because John says that ......"AFTER this I beheld, and lo, a great multitude ....before the throne.....WEARING white robes......Rev 7:9

Then Rev 8.....the trumpets, followed by the bowls......these are the WRATH of God and the Lamb.....THE DAY OF THE LORD

The 6 seals span the first 6 years of the 70th week. The trumpet/bowls....ie The Wrath of God.....are the 7th year of the 70th week

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47 minutes ago, JoeCanada said:

Hi Heb 13:8....

You are correct in saying that the Day of the Lord spans from the rapture......

At the 6th seal, there is a "great earthquake and the sun became black as sackcloth and the moon became as blood"....Rev 6:12

This is what Joel describes before the Day of the Lord....."the sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and terrible day of the Lord come"....Joel 2:31

"The kings of the earth, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men and every bondman and every free man hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains.......For the great day of His wrath IS come....".....Rev 6:17

The 6th seal and Joel 2:31 are actually referring to the second coming at the end of the 70th week.

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4 minutes ago, Heb 13:8 said:

The 6th seal and Joel 2:31 are actually referring to the second coming at the end of the 70th week.

So are you saying that the second coming, when the Lord descends onto the earth, on Mount Zion, occurs before the seven sealed scroll is fully opened?

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1 hour ago, JoeCanada said:

At the 6th seal, there is a "great earthquake and the sun became black as sackcloth and the moon became as blood"....Rev 6:12

This is what Joel describes before the Day of the Lord....."the sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and terrible day of the Lord come"....Joel 2:31

This is also the same as Matthew 24

29Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:30And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.31And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

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4 minutes ago, JoeCanada said:

So are you saying that the second coming, when the Lord descends onto the earth, on Mount Zion, occurs before the seven sealed scroll is fully opened?

The alternative would be the sixth seal event is revealed at the mid point (AofD), and the wrath of trumpets and bowls is the latter 3.5 yr.

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