They hate us because of God. Should we love them because of God?

[Ogner]

30 minutes ago, OneLight said:

Can you clarify what you mean by enemies of God?  Do you mean atheist?  Demons?  Those who reject Christ?  I don't believe there is a "one size fits all" answer.

I can't. 

Everyone who hate God. Everyone who hate us because of God.

[Ogner]

42 minutes ago, Who me said:

Keep things simple. It always helps.

As a Christian we are to be respectfull to all we meet, whether that is presidents, princes or paupers.

We should take the same leval of care to them in how we deal with them.

In our giving to charity we should take the same care in assessing the effectiveness of that charity regardless of whether it is a Christian or a secular charity.

That is the simplest way of loving others.

The next is to pray for people. Not the 'oh God bless ...' rubish but intelligent prayers asking for there good based on your knowledge of their needs.

 

Wil God send you to hell because you haven't done the above?

God send unrepentant sinners to hell, not disobedient christians.

What you won't get is to hear Jesus say , " Well done,"

Why would you say that?

Where God says that we should love his enemies?

Maybe you're the one who won't get is to hear Jesus say , " Well done,"? ?

[Jayne]

6 minutes ago, Ogner said:

Why would you say that?

Where God says that we should love his enemies?

Maybe you're the one who won't get is to hear Jesus say , " Well done,"? ?

I'm surely glad that when I was an enemy of God that someone reached out and loved me and told me about the gospel.

[Mike Mclees]

29 minutes ago, Ogner said:

I can't. 

Everyone who hate God. Everyone who hate us because of God.

Clarify hate us because of God. You can hate God but that changes nothing. The question is can God hate anyone or anything that misrepresents Him. Yes! In the world people don't hate God, but His will. It is not God that is rejected, but His Son Jesus Christ whom He gave us to suffer for our sins. Those who have rejected Christ has rejected the Father.  This is the spirit of the world which is stated several times in the New Testament. "love not the world neither the things of it. Why? because in the world is the spirit of antichrist. 

Edited April 1, 2019 by Mike Mclees

[Ogner]

23 minutes ago, johnthebaptist said:

The Lord forgives those who repent of their sin.

I disagree with your premise that "They are always going to hate us because of God, nothing we ever do will change that." People do change.

I see no need for you to forgive those who wish you harm and show no mercy because you love the Lord. But when they repent, you are required to forgive them.

Well, no good deed goes unpunished.

Please don't be so nonchalant. Take care of yourself.

[Ogner]

30 minutes ago, Jayne said:

I'm surely glad that when I was an enemy of God that someone reached out and loved me and told me about the gospel.

You made your choice to love Jesus.
They choose to hate.

And this is the judgment, that the light is come into the world, and men loved the darkness rather than the light; for their works were evil.
For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, and cometh not to the light, lest his works should be reproved.
(Jn.3:19,20)

[other one]

1 hour ago, Ogner said:

Why would you say that?

Where God says that we should love his enemies?

Maybe you're the one who won't get is to hear Jesus say , " Well done,"? ?

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Matt 5:43-45

43 "You have heard that it was said, 'You shall love your neighbor, and hate your enemy.'  44 "But I say to you, love your enemies, and pray for those who persecute you 45 in order that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven;
NASB
 

Luke 6:27-29

27 "But I say to you who hear, love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, 28 bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you. 29
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I really don't think Jesus would ask us to do something he didn't do himself...

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Jude 9-10
9 But Michael the archangel, when he disputed with the devil and argued about the body of Moses, did not dare pronounce against him a railing judgment, but said, "The Lord rebuke you." 10 But these men revile the things which they do not understand; and the things which they know by instinct, like unreasoning animals, by these things they are destroyed.
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As for satan, one needs to remember that he is/was probably the grandest thing God ever created until he got so full of himself he wanted to be equal with God....   People were warned not to bring accusations against him....           Actually when I look at Satan, I see something that is a crying shame that his grandeur turned into what it has...…  but love him or his spirit realm followers I simply can not do   it's not my place to judge him.

 

But as for people who hate God, they are just folks that are misinformed as to reality just as most of us were prior to our enlightenment by the Holy Spirit and it is our place to teach them the truth of the Gospel, and one can't do that by hating them back and treating them in a disrespective way. 

 

[johnthebaptist]

29 minutes ago, Ogner said:

Well, no good deed goes unpunished.

Please don't be so nonchalant. Take care of yourself.

There's another premise I disagree with. I didn't realize I was being nonchalant. You take care of  yourself, too.

[other one]

1 hour ago, Ogner said:

Does God forgive those who hate Jesus despite all the good He's done?

Does God forgive those who do not ask him? 

They hate Jesus after all the sacrifices He made for them.
And they are always going to hate us because of God, nothing we ever do will change that.

Why should I forgive and love thoes who wish me harm and show no mercy on me because I love God? What if I can't? You think  God will punish me and I'm going to hell for that?

 

You are asking way too many questions to keep up with.

Does God forgive those who hate Jesus?      If they ask God will forgive them.....

Does he forgive those who do not ask him?     I really don't know.

We can change the individual person by praying for them and telling them of the Gospel....   and it's between that person and the Holy Spirit as to their spiritual situation.

As for people that wish to harm you, that is a question that does not have a general answer....    way too many scenarios that have different answers.

[OneLight]

1 hour ago, Ogner said:

I can't. 

Everyone who hate God. Everyone who hate us because of God.

I think you can and should.  Satan, and his demons, are pure hate, living 0out everything God hates.  I do not feel as if I am required to love them as they are His enemies, not mine.  They show their hate toward me because of God, but to them, we are nothing but His children.   They also know God personally, in a way we do not as they were created by God and lived with GOd, which we have not.  They cannot deny God is who He is as their home was heaven.  Their hate is far different than that of an atheist, who is no more than deceived by a lie that God does not exist.  They are human and need to have His love shown to them, as well as our enemies.