Looking For Input Concerning False Doctrine in the Churches

[Last Daze]

11 hours ago, Willa said:

Many liberal churches only believe that the Bible CONTAINS God's word.  They don't believe the Bible IS the word of God.

Meaning that God's word is a subset of the Bible?  That would open the door for just about anything.

[JohnD]

The errors being taught in the Churches today stem from the basic errors which have been taught for over 1500 years.

At a critical time in Christian history, (in the words of the late Dr. J. Vernon McGee) "the devil joined the Church." 

God's love, his plan, and his people have been opposed and persecuted since Adam and Eve fell into sin. Through individuals like Abel, Seth, Noah, Abraham, Moses, David and so on... God was breaking into this dark evil world with truth and light establishing a toehold then a foothold endeavoring for a stronghold. 

We typically think of it as the other way around. That the devil is trying to break into the good world and the good people in it in this manner. 

When Adam and Eve fell into sin, and creation fell right along with them (Romans 8) light and truth became the aliens and darkness and evil the natural occupants of Earth.

And when light and truth gained strongholds, evil and darkness often invaded like mass hoards of armies Exodus 18, Exodus 32, all the times throughout Israeli history that the people or the leaders fell into sin, certainly the exiles of northern and southern kingdoms... then the New Covenant was established and the Church was driven underground in hiding first by the Jewish leadership, then the Roman Empire. 

Emperor Constantine saw in Christianity a cohesiveness his empire sorely lacked. It had to have a second capital city established. But even under the worst persecution, Christianity thrived and spread.

First was the call to Christians that their faith was no longer illegal in the empire. Then it became the religion of state. Then it became the state in Roman Catholicism.

The Roman Empire that fell was but an empty shell. The adder had already hatched.

During that time, Christianity had the first real opportunity to discover the Bible canon and compare scripture with scripture to form biblical doctrines. At the same time, creators of the Romanized adulteration of Christianity were busily creating unbiblical doctrines of the traditions of man. Biblical doctrines square with scripture (1 Thessalonians 5:21 / Acts 17:11 / 2 Timothy 3:16-17 / Isaiah 28:9-13  / Deuteronomy 29:29 /  Proverbs 25:2  etc.). The traditions of man contradict with each other and the scriptures. It's laughable to see how one "infallible" Pope contradicts the other "infallible" Popes in their edicts, decrees, and bulls.

Chiefest among the heresies is the doctrine of clergy / laity. ALL Christians are priests of God (Revelation 1:6 / 5:10 / 1 Peter 2:3-9).  We have different ministries and callings (1 Corinthians 12) but we are all a kingdom of priests.

Many think that the Protestants reformed from all this, but in truth, when you realize what you are looking at and how to discern by the tutelage of the Holy Spirit true Bible interpretation from the traditions of man you will find that there is not a whole lot of difference between them and the Roman Church. Not really. And these differences are generally swapping one set of traditions of man for another set of traditions of man.

Then there's the long list of works both exact from subordinate believers (laity) by convincing them the New Testament begins at Matthew 1 (rather that upon the death of Christ in the cross as Hebrew 9:16-17 and other passages indicate). So, salvation really is by faith alone in Christ alone and not subject to the various add-ons like forgiving our fellow man so God will forgive us, or gouging out our eye to enter life maimed and not go to hell with a whole body... 

The devil wants it all to be confusing and the Romanized Church does just that.

So... modern errors should be of no surprise when the soil these fart blossoms were planted in was fertilized with human excrement (biblically unclean fertilizer btw).

[Michael37]

13 minutes ago, JohnD said:

The errors being taught in the Churches today stem from the basic errors which have been taught for over 1500 years.

Not to mention the errors already in play when the Epistles and Revelation were written. 

[Justin Adams]

JohnD's comment is very good. The Archons (principalities and powers) have been rendered of no account and their authority has been revoked by the lord Yeshua. He also reversed angelic disobedience and the scattering of the nations at Babel. God ha ALWAYS had supreme Authority and He sacrificed Himself deliberately to negate the authority He had given the disobedient members of His High Council. (see psalm 82 and Deut 32).

They left a trail of nonsense in their wake. So much misdirection and utter fiction.

The Lord is always in charge and likes to use His Family (both heavenly and earthly) to confound the works of darkness. The reformation was a joke; a sad joke because so many died before and after and during in a frenzy of man-made ideas and dictates and self-righteousness. 

What most fail to recognize is that ALL authority is given by Yahweh. Yes, even the 'bad dudes'. Yeshua put that ALL  under His feet. ALL OF IT.

The Christian Family has be adopted into God's family and REPLACED those disobedient spirits... "They will die as mere men..."

We have power from on High to do great deeds but are too busy haggling over gnats while we feast on camels.

The Most High knows what He is doing. It is His Creation and He will accomplish His Aims and Desires - and use us to do it.

Are we ready? What else can our Great God do to mobilize us??

Edited June 29, 2019 by Justin Adams

[Marilyn C]

On 6/20/2019 at 5:00 AM, Last Daze said:

I'm wanting to compile a listing of things that are being taught as truth in the church today which are in fact deceptions.  We know that in the end times that deception will become so prevalent that it will even be taught by those who come in Jesus name (Matthew 24:5) so I want to identify some of those false teachings.  Since I have a limited exposure to what's being taught in the churches today, I'd like feedback from those who have come across teachings which are contrary to the word of God yet presented as truth.  Some examples of what I've observed would be:

• Unitarianism - rejects the deity of Christ and consequently Him being the only way to the Father.
• Gender Confusion - rejects biological gender and God ordained sexuality.  It is essentially what the rainbow flag endorses.
• Dysfunctional Authority - rejects the God ordained authority structure of 1 Corinthians 11:3.

What other kinds of things have you seen or heard of that are being taught / practiced in the churches today that are based on lies and are a compromise of the truth?

Hi Last Daze,

A very old false teaching that has put on a new garment, and is subtly infiltrating church organisations, is DOMINIONISM.  This means - together we can change the world, our part of the world, etc and make it a better place. 

The error goes like this - Adam was given dominion of the world and we as Christians are to take it back. Just work with others, (even unbelievers) who also want to bring in peace, (& safety). 

Getting people ripe for the world leader bringing a false peace.

Marilyn.

[Last Daze]

17 hours ago, Marilyn C said:

Hi Last Daze,

A very old false teaching that has put on a new garment, and is subtly infiltrating church organisations, is DOMINIONISM.  This means - together we can change the world, our part of the world, etc and make it a better place. 

The error goes like this - Adam was given dominion of the world and we as Christians are to take it back. Just work with others, (even unbelievers) who also want to bring in peace, (& safety). 

Getting people ripe for the world leader bringing a false peace.

Marilyn.

Hey Marilyn,

Sounds like something that preterists would gravitate toward?  And possibly unitarians?

I do agree that people are being conditioned by the many facets of deception active today.

[Marilyn C]

4 hours ago, Last Daze said:

Hey Marilyn,

Sounds like something that preterists would gravitate toward?  And possibly unitarians?

I do agree that people are being conditioned by the many facets of deception active today.

Hi Last Daze,

And many new songs over the past few years are `indoctrinating` people into this false teaching.

Also there are `touchy, feely` `Jesus my boyfriend,` type of songs. They are the ones that are `love songs,` without really specifying the Lord. We always need to be reverent in our approach to the Lord and His majesty, and not get romantically emotional.

Marilyn. 

[Blood Bought 1953]

5 hours ago, Marilyn C said:

Hi Last Daze,

And many new songs over the past few years are `indoctrinating` people into this false teaching.

Also there are `touchy, feely` `Jesus my boyfriend,` type of songs. They are the ones that are `love songs,` without really specifying the Lord. We always need to be reverent in our approach to the Lord and His majesty, and not get romantically emotional.

Marilyn. 

 

Yech! I have never heard such songs.Hopefully , I never will.

[Last Daze]

7 hours ago, Marilyn C said:

Hi Last Daze,

And many new songs over the past few years are `indoctrinating` people into this false teaching.

Marilyn. 

Thanks Marilyn.  I once heard a pastor say that Christians don't tell lies, they sing them.  Songs certainly can be a way of subtle deception.  Many songs' lyrics get stuck in people's heads and somehow become elevated in their minds to the level of truth. 

 

7 hours ago, Marilyn C said:

We always need to be reverent in our approach to the Lord and His majesty, and not get romantically emotional.

Agreed.

[BeauJangles]

7 hours ago, Marilyn C said:

And many new songs over the past few years are `indoctrinating` people into this false teaching.

 

18 minutes ago, Last Daze said:

I once heard a pastor say that Christians don't tell lies, they sing them.  Songs certainly can be a way of subtle deception.  Many songs' lyrics get stuck in people's heads and somehow become elevated in their minds to the level of truth. 

Some of our beloved hymns well meaning as they are, can sometimes contain slightly erroneous verses in them as well. It's not just the new ones especially. I wouldn't exactly refer to it as false doctrine though. If there was any worship and glory received by our Lord, is that such a bad thing?