Popular Post saved34 Posted October 12, 2019 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 5 Topic Count: 1 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,185 Content Per Day: 0.27 Reputation: 667 Days Won: 3 Joined: 03/28/2012 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/19/1971 Popular Post Share Posted October 12, 2019 Hearing these accounts of God showing mercy to the undeserved is incredible. It builds so much faith and joy in our hearts. How he takes a wretch out of filth and sets them on a righteous path of service to himself. He reconciled us. Mar 5:15 When they came to Jesus, they saw the man who had been possessed by the legion of demons, sitting there, dressed and in his right mind; and they were afraid. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan Posted October 12, 2019 Group: Members Followers: 1 Topic Count: 1 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 8 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 21 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/21/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted October 12, 2019 Of course child molesters can be saved. We are all needing the same power from Christ...even if we are choir boys. 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neighbor Posted October 12, 2019 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 18 Topic Count: 952 Topics Per Day: 0.35 Content Count: 13,573 Content Per Day: 5.03 Reputation: 9,054 Days Won: 6 Joined: 12/04/2016 Status: Offline Birthday: 03/03/1885 Share Posted October 12, 2019 12 hours ago, nobleseed said: they have rejected God and excepted satan into their hearts It is God that is the jealous God by whom all that is has been created. His creation does not dictate what He may and may not do by reasoning and logic of His created being. A child molester is not a child molester for having satan, the sin state of each individual is of the individual and his responsibility, there is no excuse to be found in other beings. The state of sin of a man/woman may manifest in molestation, or it may manifest in other overt acts. It is there even if it does not manifest in any overt action at all. Sin is the state of this fallen creation. It is fallen by the sin of one, it is rescued for some by the mercy and grace of One alone. All created beings have been foreknown to God, all humans that are to be saved out from this fallen creation are predestined to it by God alone, each having been given to Jesus alone. Jesus losses not a one given to Him by His father. Man is not born into neutrality from which he then makes decisions to align with God or align with Satan or be a free agent and his own god. Every individual is born into their own individual sin state, all under the curse of God over Adam. Each is sinful from before birth itself, and accountable for it from an age certain known to God. Not being a child molester does not save. No behavior by any man merits his salvation. Only Jesus the Good Shepherd saves and not by the reasoning of any man, but by His Father's will for Him to do so. He saves who He will. Man's reasoning and will not withstanding. Praise God for His sovereignty alone, for if all things were by man as his own sovereign all would be eternal hell, as it is man's nature under the fall from purity to be depraved. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dailyprayerwarrior Posted October 13, 2019 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 3 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 219 Content Per Day: 0.13 Reputation: 284 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/03/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted October 13, 2019 I agree with George and Other One. As horrible as it no doubt is, Jesus paid the price in full for any person who would accept His forgiveness. People are often as sick in their mind as they are in their body and yet, Jesus healed them all. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngelInTraining93 Posted October 13, 2019 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 5 Topic Count: 44 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 239 Content Per Day: 0.14 Reputation: 212 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/27/2019 Status: Offline Birthday: 11/16/1993 Share Posted October 13, 2019 18 hours ago, nobleseed said: no he means children. that is the context of the verse. Very well. Jesus said it would be better that a millstone were hung around their neck and that they be cast out to sea (Matthew 18:6). Still nothing about unforgivable sin. I have to say I agree that abusing children is among the most vile forms of fornication. You are clearly very passionate about this issue. But blaspheming the Holy Spirit is the only sin about which Jesus said, EXPLICITLY, "...shall not be forgiven." Matthew 12:31-32. It's just fact. I'll leave you alone concerning this issue, but I know for sure, you are going to be in for a shock come Judgement Day. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nobleseed Posted October 13, 2019 Group: Members * Followers: 1 Topic Count: 83 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 341 Content Per Day: 0.18 Reputation: 117 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/02/2019 Status: Offline Author Share Posted October 13, 2019 58 minutes ago, AngelInTraining93 said: Very well. Jesus said it would be better that a millstone were hung around their neck and that they be cast out to sea (Matthew 18:6). Still nothing about unforgivable sin. I have to say I agree that abusing children is among the most vile forms of fornication. You are clearly very passionate about this issue. But blaspheming the Holy Spirit is the only sin about which Jesus said, EXPLICITLY, "...shall not be forgiven." Matthew 12:31-32. It's just fact. I'll leave you alone concerning this issue, but I know for sure, you are going to be in for a shock come Judgement Day. actually Jesus called it an eternal sin, an meaning more then one, if u study your bible carefully u will find more such as betraying a righteous man and lying to God, and what do u think Jesus meant by milestone around the neck, i am sure he could not make it more clear that those who defile children will be condemned Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post enoob57 Posted October 13, 2019 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 35 Topic Count: 100 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 41,189 Content Per Day: 7.98 Reputation: 21,467 Days Won: 76 Joined: 03/13/2010 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/27/1957 Popular Post Share Posted October 13, 2019 Just doesn't fit with the leading of Scripture Rom 5:20-21 20 Moreover the law entered that the offense might abound. But where sin abounded, grace abounded much more, 21 so that as sin reigned in death, even so grace might reign through righteousness to eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. NKJV You have elevated the sin greater than the grace of God... 3 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lftc Posted October 13, 2019 Group: Senior Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 20 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 536 Content Per Day: 0.31 Reputation: 323 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/16/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted October 13, 2019 (edited) 6 hours ago, nobleseed said: actually Jesus called it an eternal sin, an meaning more then one, if u study your bible carefully u will find more such as betraying a righteous man and lying to God, and what do u think Jesus meant by milestone around the neck, i am sure he could not make it more clear that those who defile children will be condemned NobleSeed, I take it that you have some unstated reason for posting this whole thread, and the others you posted at about the same time. It may be that you are in great pain because of things that have happened to you. No one can undo those things. The world promises peace by following a course of action based on the world's belief system. The Bible promises peace by following a course of action based on God's belief system. The two courses of action stand in contrast to each other. I face a dilemma when posting in this thread. Do I try to talk to a person in pain with a focus on acknowledging and affirming their pain? Or do I try to point the person to a path that leads to peace, but requires contradicting the beliefs that the person in pain has come to believe are the path away from pain? I don't know what to say. So I say a prayer. Love to you. May Jesus draw you to a path to Joy as he did for others posting in this thread. Edited October 13, 2019 by lftc 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post LadyKay Posted October 13, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 12 Topic Count: 385 Topics Per Day: 0.10 Content Count: 7,692 Content Per Day: 1.93 Reputation: 4,809 Days Won: 3 Joined: 05/28/2013 Status: Offline Popular Post Share Posted October 13, 2019 (edited) 14 hours ago, nobleseed said: i am sure he could not make it more clear that those who defile children will be condemned I do not think that anyone here is saying child abuse is not a sin. While the Bible clearly points out the sin of abuse along with a number of other sins. The Bible also clearly points out that sin will be forgiven if the sinner turns to Christ and repents of their sin. This has been pointed out to you by several people on here through many Bible verses. You are telling people they need to study their Bible. Perhaps you need to do so as well. Because it seems to me you have missed the important parts about repentance and the forgiveness of sins. It is very damaging to some of the Christian faith to go around proclaiming certain people can not be forgiven. But not only is it damaging, it is also a lie. Much like the lies that satan has told many newly born Christians. Reminding them of their past sins. Telling them that they are not forgiven. Well God's word has something to say about that. Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, the new creation has come: The old has gone, the new is here! CORINTHIANS 5:17 Anyway. That is all I have to say about this. If you want to keep believing what you are saying, even after the truth as been shown to you. That is your choice to do so. Edited October 13, 2019 by LadyKay 2 1 1 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willa Posted October 13, 2019 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 68 Topic Count: 186 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 14,242 Content Per Day: 3.33 Reputation: 16,657 Days Won: 30 Joined: 08/14/2012 Status: Offline Share Posted October 13, 2019 Jesus went about healing and delivering demoniacs. I am certain that some if not many child molesters are demoniacs, and that they can be saved. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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