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18 minutes ago, luigi said:

I agree about not worrying about it right now, but still it does look that someone changed the Number of the Beast from 616 to 666 somewhere around the third century or later. This looks to be one of the reasons why the Lord warns in Revelation 22:18 & 19 not to take away or add to the book.

 Revelation 22:18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: 19nd if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.

Does it really make that much of a difference unless we are trying to figure out who the beast is before it becomes apparent?


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26 minutes ago, other one said:

Does it really make that much of a difference unless we are trying to figure out who the beast is before it becomes apparent?

The Lord felt it necessary to provide the data on the Beast, and so there is some reason for us to figure out what the Number of the Beast 616 is.


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6 minutes ago, SONshine said:

Hey there, Luigi:)     .... But in Revelation 13, the number 666 is written as “Six hundred threescore and six.”  Did they change this, too? <_<   ....It could be they don’t want anyone to know when he, the antichrist, arrives.  So when does he arrive?  ....The sixth seal, the sixth trump, and the sixth veil (666).  

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11 And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.

12 And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.

13 And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,

14 And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.

15 And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.

16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:

17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.

Sonshine, below is a bolded copy of my earlier post which shows us that the earliest fragments of copies from the Number of the Beast from the book of Revelation have the Number of the Beast as 616. Someone or some group changed the number sometime in the third century or later to 666.

In May 2005, it was reported that scholars at Oxford University using advanced imaging techniques had been able to read illegible portions of the earliest known record of the Book of Revelation, from the Oxyrhynchus site, Papyrus 115 or p115, dating to the mid to late third century. The fragment gives the Number of the Beast as 616 (chi, iota, stigma), rather than the majority text (chi, xi, stigma). The other early witness Codex Epharaemi Rescriptus has it written in full: hexakosisi deka hex (lit. six hundred sixteeen) (Wikipedia: "Number of the Beast" 2009).

It looks like the two earliest texts that we have on the Number of the beast have it as 616 and not 666 as it is written in later texts.


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1 minute ago, luigi said:

Sonshine, below is a bolded copy of my earlier post which shows us that the earliest fragments of copies from the Number of the Beast from the book of Revelation have the Number of the Beast as 616. Someone or some group changed the number sometime in the third century or later to 666. This means that where six hundred three score and six is written, would also have been added.

In May 2005, it was reported that scholars at Oxford University using advanced imaging techniques had been able to read illegible portions of the earliest known record of the Book of Revelation, from the Oxyrhynchus site, Papyrus 115 or p115, dating to the mid to late third century. The fragment gives the Number of the Beast as 616 (chi, iota, stigma), rather than the majority text (chi, xi, stigma). The other early witness Codex Epharaemi Rescriptus has it written in full: hexakosisi deka hex (lit. six hundred sixteeen) (Wikipedia: "Number of the Beast" 2009).

It looks like the two earliest texts that we have on the Number of the beast have it as 616 and not 666 as it is written in later texts.

 

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Revelation 13v 18 This calls for wisdom. Let the person who has insight calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man. That number is 666.

''It Is''  is in the present tense of the verb which may imply that ''The man'' [from John's perspective] was known to John, a man that either existed at that time or had existed.

Ezra 2

1Here is the list of the Jewish exiles of the provinces who returned from their captivity. King Nebuchadnezzar had deported them to Babylon, but now they returned to Jerusalem and the other towns in Judah where they originally lived.

V13 

The Family of Adonikam 666
 
אֲדֹ֣נִיקָ֔ם
(a·do·ni·kam,)  Means either ''My arisen Lord'' or ''My risen God or Lord''
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I believe 666=18, which means "bondage" in Biblical numerics, so anytime you see this number then BE CAREFUL, as far as having any dealings with those who are associated with it...and yes that's what i am saying, that numbers actually do mean something in the Bible, but each person has to make up their own mind of course.

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     Numbers, at times, were used in the Bible symbolically.  The number six signifies imperfection, something not normal, monstrous.  Compare 2 Samuel 21:20; 1 Chronicles 20:6; Daniel 3:1.  Therefore since the number six falls short of seven (completeness to God’s standards) and is tripled representing gross imperfection.  The account states that it is a man’s number, and because people encompass the second beast as well, it could not be spiritual but earthly-symbolizing human governments. (Revelation 13:11-18) Furthermore, it is a fitting name for the world’s gigantic political system that rules supreme and do not measure up to God’s standards.


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It´s no secret that the antichrist is man himself. Not any one man, but man as such. The devil is man who have lost touch with the divine and who have corrupted himself and the world in search for earthly pleasures. 

We see today how low man has fallen, i.e. man has lost touch with the divine, and in doing so man becomes like the beast, and the beast is the whole man created system of control and governance. But each and everyone inside this system is responsible for their thoughts and actions, they become like the beast, the beast system.

God is at this very moment helping those souls entrapped in this system get out. And its not easy, it might mean one has to let go of ones family (that might be part of the system), all ones toys and so on. The house is burning, and those who refuse to see it and decide to stay inside to play with their toys, will go down with it.  


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On 12/2/2019 at 3:58 AM, nobleseed said:

6 is the number for work in the bible, for 6 days God created the world, for 6 days the jews were to labor, for six years the fields were to be cultivated and for six year an israelite could be a slave, so the number 666 more then likely represent the works of the beast

Another idea:

 

חיגגש בעשענ = ΧΙΓΓΣ = 816

 

ΗΙΓΓΣ ΒΟΣΟΝ = 616

 

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666 is the number that comprises the name of the Beast. That is to say, the letters of the name of the Beast, when arranged in the right position, form the number 666.

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